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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
August 27 2011 21:44 GMT
#5621
Why don't they have an observer in each of the pool games and just switch between games on the main casting stages like Rotti and that do during ESL games... they even flick between games as exciting stuff is going down...

If MLG wants gold memberships maybe have more games showing rather then a stream just teasing the shit out of us by having a camera 10 metres away from the players monitors showing us some obscure view and trying to guess who wins via body language of the players after a score screen appears lol.
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
August 27 2011 21:44 GMT
#5622
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
August 27 2011 21:44 GMT
#5623
On August 28 2011 06:43 skrzmark wrote:
I feel like Tastosis seem better at casting in the GSL compared to MLG. Maybe they can't say there side banter as much due to having the live audience?

They do seem to be straying away from what makes Tastosis so Tastosis-y, if you know what i mean, their casting of the actual game is as sick as always but they lack they jokey, banter that gets you through the stages of the game where not alot is happening.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5624
rofl at the league of legends stream as well, seems like it takes mlg at least 3 tries to run anything decently, while ignoring easy workarounds.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Ravar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States447 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5625
On August 28 2011 06:41 aresendez88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:37 Choboo wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.

That's mostly because there are so many top Koreans invited and so few EU players. With Mana, Dimaga, Tarson etc. this would look very different.


Somehow I highly doubt that.

If you saw how thoroughly thrashed Thorzain and Naniwa are getting in the GSL right now you'd understand that it isn't just the North American and Korean gap that's huge it's also the Korean/European gap as well.

Not saying it wouldn't be better than having some of the lower tier players in the pools replaced with some European pros, but I don't think it would make much difference in unseating the dominance the Koreans are displaying.


I guess you haven't been watching GSTL if you think Thorzain and Naniwa are getting "thoroughly thrashed"
Yeah bitch, magnets
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5626
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You know those foreigners got invited from MLG, right. And you what happened to them, don't you.
Templarama
Profile Joined August 2011
43 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5627
Is the day almost over? The schedules don't show any games to be played after 6:00pm?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5628
On August 28 2011 06:43 skrzmark wrote:
I feel like Tastosis seem better at casting in the GSL compared to MLG. Maybe they can't say there side banter as much due to having the live audience?


The game quality mostly. Give them epic games and they'll give you great casting.

When the games are horrible in GSL, they salvage it by ridiculing the noobs. Can't really do that in GSL especially since most of these guys are their friends.

If haypro was some random zerg in code A, artosis would have demolished him.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5629
So far games I've spent my time on today were almost all kind of dull. Why do I keep watching this... T_T
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5630
On August 28 2011 06:44 jyLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?

excuses excuses
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5631
On August 28 2011 06:44 jyLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?


"The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material"

Doesn't matter where they are.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5632
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


and how many foreigners even made it to the updown matches since huk's run? none.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5633
On August 28 2011 06:43 Hemula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:42 karis wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:40 kabar wrote:
don't see nada taking a series from puma. puma got this.


Know this is going to sound stupid but why does everyone think puma's great?

not trying to insult him but other then him winning the NASL i honestly have never heard him mentioned in terms of tourneys.

them americans. facepalm


im just curious. I haven't heard very much about him and was just curious.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
mortalisx
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom21 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5634
On August 28 2011 06:40 DeG3n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:34 kheldorin wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Badfatpanda wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:29 DipoleMoment wrote:
I swear to god I see all the foreign players do the stupidest strategies and make the most rookie mistakes. ALL INS DONT WORK VS KOREANS.


bitbybit begs to differ


Korean ALL INS do work vs Koreans especially in TvP. It's not a strategy issue. It's a player issue.


Yes thats true, but I feel like the foreigners shouldn't do these all ins because they don't really have much experience with them since in our scene chessing is a bit more uncommon than in korea. I also tend to think that foreigners are much more even matched to the koreans in the late game than in these kind of filigree situations in the early and mid game. I think because the korean games last shorter in general the heavy practice they got favoure there early game more than there late game.
For an example series look at alive vs Darkforce at the NASL finals where alive just didn't know what to do in the lategame.


not really, a lot of foreigners try and grab a cheap win vs the koreans precisely because they know that taking it into the late game will give the korean a better chance
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5635
Do the MLG staff make this music in their garage so they can play it during the down time between games?
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5636
On August 28 2011 06:44 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.

You're one of the most amazingly delusional human beings I've ever come across.


Great post. Add insight or you just sound retarded. Results clearly speak for themselves.
kilergrunt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States263 Posts
August 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#5637
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.

What about Huk in code S and all the Europeans in code A?
Select | iNkA | Tyler | Huk | Idra | Polt | NaNiwa | PuMa | Spanishiwa | DeMusliM | Slush
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45321 Posts
August 27 2011 21:46 GMT
#5638
On August 28 2011 06:45 Templarama wrote:
Is the day almost over? The schedules don't show any games to be played after 6:00pm?


Schedule shows games up to 11 PM.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
August 27 2011 21:46 GMT
#5639
On August 28 2011 06:43 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Maybe a MLG mod is reading this thread. Good matchups you should stream:
Coca vs Naniwa
Noblesse vs Bomber
HerO vs DRG (!)
HerO vs Select
Kiwikaki vs Ret


Totally agree, get the good game on stage. The great thing about GSL is, every game is quality, less idle time.

SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 27 2011 21:46 GMT
#5640
On August 28 2011 06:45 skrzmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


and how many foreigners even made it to the updown matches since huk's run? none.

and? Did every foreigner retire? Are they not going to be able to compete for code A again?
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