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On August 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote: Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please. Are you "really" counting Terrans losing in a MIRROR match? Ok, that's it for now, I can only handle so much stupidity on one day... What?
All non TvT results add up to 50% as there were no mirror matches besides TvT.
And you call me stupid for that?
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On August 24 2011 21:28 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:28 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On August 24 2011 21:27 DoNotDisturb wrote:On August 24 2011 21:26 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On August 24 2011 21:26 EllipZ wrote:On August 24 2011 21:23 Ysellian wrote:On August 24 2011 21:22 EllipZ wrote: i feel huk can win this.tvp is the weakest matchup of mvp and even if 1-1-1 is quite hard to hold nowadays maybe huk will find something with the maps of the matchs. I think huk stands a real chance, but forgive me if I'm mistaken but isn't huk going to MLG this weekend? oh right, too much travels :x MVP will be there too... No, he won't be able to make it for Raleigh to defend his title. Wait seriously? :O :O :O Jup, MVP skipped it to concentrate on GSL. MLG invites = Nada, Coca, Tester, Bomber.
Oh snap. This might be DRG's chance to take it down.
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On August 24 2011 21:27 rpgalon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:21 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:19 aebriol wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 ItsMeDomLee wrote: This is probably Huk's easiest path possible to a championship. What are u talking about? MVP probably the best player at the moment in RO8. The semi-finals are okay for him yes, but only if he beats MVP, which i don't give him more than 10% chance to do. Also the finals he can face Polt. 'Nuff said. Actually, MvP is an absolute beast in TvT and TvZ but have previously been having really big problems in TvP. If he has fixed that, I'd agree, but it's not wrong to point to that flaw in his game. You're still under the impression that MVP is the same MVP from 3 months ago in TvP. Did you not see him demolish MC over and over again in recent games? And that's just one example off the top of my head, i don't remember the last time i saw him loss vs protoss recently. what are you talking about, MVP just abused the shit out of MC with a marine tank banshee raven scv bunker contain. If MVP underestimate HuK, and don't use abusive strats like that, I can easly see him losing. I'm not impressed by his PvT
I really wanted MC to win but MVP went for a greedy build teching like that off a 1 rax expo with only 1 bunker so far away from scvs. MC didn't punish him and basically got contained after he missed the window of opportunity. MC also made a larger mistake of not picking an easy opponent for group stages to make sure he stayed in Code S. He took a gamble and a lot of us wanted it to pay off but it didn't. Its how gambles go. What MVP did wasn't 111, it was just smart. He was ahead, so he contained so he could get further ahead because the map is retarded.
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Okay so the best way to be successful at Liquibet for me is to just simply not bet. Amirite?
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On August 24 2011 21:20 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:18 GuardianEU wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 medic_ro wrote: Protoss in general should stop being so greedy with fast expo , impacient to get big toss ball. not like zergs who take a 3rd expo before 5 min to roflstomp with 200/200 roach 14 min into the game, no? hongun botched his defenses in the first game, in the 2nd one the nexus first was unnecessary. not much else to it, tbh Zergs do that because of protoss greed... your point is moot. 100% wrong. Protoss greed is needed on certain maps where you can't punish economic zerg play. 3 gate expo is crap on large maps. zergs have the ability to ridiculously outmacro protoss and you speak of the necessity of "punishing" protoss when they dare to build an early expansion....TL as it's best today Would you say the same thing about greedy being necessary in the case where zerg takes a early 3rd expo when protoss goes nexus first?
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this season has still alot of terrans advancing. i wished puzzle to win so bad
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when do the vods come out?
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kk. Nestea to Raleigh open bracket now plz. kthxbai.
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On August 24 2011 21:20 Phayt wrote: Huk's chances aside, looking at the remaining players JULY actually has a decent title shot here. There's no ZvZs for him to shoot himself in the foot, and mostly just terrans, which has been a good match up for him before. He still has great player's he'd have to beat, but I think he'd much rather take on MVP and Polt than Nestea and MC, right?
Oh my god, you're right. i just realized July cannot get a ZvZ for the rest of the season.
This may be his GSL.
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On August 24 2011 21:24 alan25 wrote: summary for mvp vs nestea? huk vs nada games?
Fist game "longish" game. Marine+tank+thor vs baneling+ling+infestor and in the end broodlords. Great drops by MVP and excellent macro. Nothing really special. MVP just played really well and in the end made a huge drop and destroyed all the tech buildings from Nestea, while neastea was in MVP's base with his last units.
2nd game, excellent bunker rush blocking the way from main to natural.
HuK vs Nada:
1st game normal macro game. In the end Nada lost because of poor micro on big engagements. 2nd game: HuK 4 gates, nada defends. Nada pushes with stim, HuK hold's with great forcefields and has a significant lead. Nada goes another push with most of his scv:s and Huk holds barely. Then Huk got his 2nd or 3rd colossus, he pushed out with really small army while Nada had his army out and destroyed that, attacked and finished the game. Stupid aggression mistake by HuK there.
3rd game counter bo win pretty much. Going blind DT's against 4 rax.
Check the games if you want a closer insight. I'm pretty bad at summarizing stuff and i'm sure that i'm missing something here anyway.
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On August 24 2011 21:30 eloist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote: Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please. Are you "really" counting Terrans losing in a MIRROR match? Ok, that's it for now, I can only handle so much stupidity on one day... What? All non TvT results add up to 50% as there were no mirror matches besides TvT. And you call me stupid for that?
yes I do - because a huge portion of NON-terrans never even reached Ro16.
Let's supposed for one moment that Ro16 would've consisted of 15 terrans and one protoss. Then the one protoss wins his match. Cool, in 8 out of 8 matches a terran player loses and all non TvT results add up to 100% wins for the non terran player - not so bad apparently.
Anyways, still have to get some work done...
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On August 24 2011 21:28 Looms wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:27 Ysellian wrote:On August 24 2011 21:26 EllipZ wrote:On August 24 2011 21:23 Ysellian wrote:On August 24 2011 21:22 EllipZ wrote: i feel huk can win this.tvp is the weakest matchup of mvp and even if 1-1-1 is quite hard to hold nowadays maybe huk will find something with the maps of the matchs. I think huk stands a real chance, but forgive me if I'm mistaken but isn't huk going to MLG this weekend? oh right, too much travels :x Yeah, I kinda wish Huk would have skipped out on MLG now. hehe but what would the EG organization think if he didn't show up to the next major event after joining the team
Haha true I guess XD
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On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote: Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please.
i dont want to say anything about dominance, but you shouldnt bend stats in this forum like that!
for example imagine 16toss in the ro16: 8 out of 16 advance  also, there are 3 zergs and only 9 terrans what means:
5 out of possible 7 terran advance with 2 mirrors
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On August 24 2011 21:20 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:19 Maghetti wrote: Now all the best players left are on the same side of the bracket, I fear a MVP 4-0 victory in the finals at this rate. Who on the other side of the bracket can stop him? Genius. GENIUS FOR GSL CHAMPION! wheres the fanclub? xD
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On August 24 2011 21:33 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:24 alan25 wrote: summary for mvp vs nestea? huk vs nada games? Fist game "longish" game. Marine+tank+thor vs baneling+ling+infestor and in the end broodlords. Great drops by MVP and excellent macro. Nothing really special. MVP just played really well and in the end made a huge drop and destroyed all the tech buildings from Nestea, while neastea was in MVP's base with his last units. 2nd game, excellent bunker rush blocking the way from main to natural. HuK vs Nada: 1st game normal macro game. In the end Nada lost because of poor micro on big engagements. 2nd game: HuK 4 gates, nada defends. Nada pushes with stim, HuK hold's with great forcefields and has a significant lead. Nada goes another push with most of his scv:s and Huk holds barely. Then Huk got his 2nd or 3rd colossus, he pushed out with really small army while Nada had his army out and destroyed that, attacked and finished the game. Stupid aggression mistake by HuK there. 3rd game counter bo win pretty much. Going blind DT's against 1-1-1. Check the games if you want a closer insight. I'm pretty bad at summarizing stuff and i'm sure that i'm missing something here anyway.
it wasn't 1-1-1, it was 4 rax
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On August 24 2011 21:33 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:24 alan25 wrote: summary for mvp vs nestea? huk vs nada games? Fist game "longish" game. Marine+tank+thor vs baneling+ling+infestor and in the end broodlords. Great drops by MVP and excellent macro. Nothing really special. MVP just played really well and in the end made a huge drop and destroyed all the tech buildings from Nestea, while neastea was in MVP's base with his last units. 2nd game, excellent bunker rush blocking the way from main to natural. HuK vs Nada: 1st game normal macro game. In the end Nada lost because of poor micro on big engagements. 2nd game: HuK 4 gates, nada defends. Nada pushes with stim, HuK hold's with great forcefields and has a significant lead. Nada goes another push with most of his scv:s and Huk holds barely. Then Huk got his 2nd or 3rd colossus, he pushed out with really small army while Nada had his army out and destroyed that, attacked and finished the game. Stupid aggression mistake by HuK there. 3rd game counter bo win pretty much. Going DT's against 1-1-1. Check the games if you want a closer insight. I'm pretty bad at summarizing stuff and i'm sure that i'm missing something here anyway.
3rd game Nada vs Huk he definitely did not go 1-1-1. In fact, 1-1-1 counters DT's, so that could not be a BO loss. He went 4 rax all-in.
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On August 24 2011 21:33 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:24 alan25 wrote: summary for mvp vs nestea? huk vs nada games? 3rd game counter bo win pretty much. Going DT's against 1-1-1. Now even 4 Rax qualifies as 1-1-1?
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On August 24 2011 21:33 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:24 alan25 wrote: summary for mvp vs nestea? huk vs nada games? .. 3rd game counter bo win pretty much. Going blind DT's against 1-1-1. ...
It was 4rax, not 1-1-1...
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On August 24 2011 21:30 eloist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:27 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote: Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please. Are you "really" counting Terrans losing in a MIRROR match? Ok, that's it for now, I can only handle so much stupidity on one day... What? All non TvT results add up to 50% as there were no mirror matches besides TvT. And you call me stupid for that? You are right. The ro8 issue is because there are so many Terrans in code S, including mediocre ones such as Ensnare, clide, noblesse who managed to 1/1/1 or bunker rush there way to a single victory in the group stages.
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I'm pretty bad at summarizing stuff and i'm sure that i'm missing something here anyway.
Well there you go. I missed something and i'm sorry.
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