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On August 24 2011 21:22 La1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:20 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On August 24 2011 21:19 Maghetti wrote:
Now all the best players left are on the same side of the bracket, I fear a MVP 4-0 victory in the finals at this rate. Who on the other side of the bracket can stop him? Genius. sad but true, gsl has the worst finals because of an awful group stage and bracketing meaning seeded players dont ever get split.. mvp has basically played 2 "would be" finalists already in nestea and MC.. the finals will suck :\
I think a Genius MVP finals would be pretty good. Genius wins his first GSL and gives the bird to Blizzard for not inviting him back to defend his Blizzcon title.
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Everytime i see July play like that i after have to go and watch the SC/BW July vs Best OSL final and laugh like a maniac... 
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On August 24 2011 21:21 Akhee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:18 GuardianEU wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 medic_ro wrote:
Protoss in general should stop being so greedy with fast expo , impacient to get big toss ball. not like zergs who take a 3rd expo before 5 min to roflstomp with 200/200 roach 14 min into the game, no? hongun botched his defenses in the first game, in the 2nd one the nexus first was unnecessary. not much else to it, tbh Zergs do that because of protoss greed... your point is moot. It wasn't greed at all.. it's the only way to play in this map, he even got A LOT of cannons
A lot of badly positioned cannons. So what? Roaches positioning themselves on the Nexus has been happening since Idra did it to whats his face after / before the Clide game. I can make 50 spine crawlers to defend my base but if they're behind the mineral line they're not stopping people killing my hatch.
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On August 24 2011 21:22 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:21 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:19 aebriol wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
This is probably Huk's easiest path possible to a championship. What are u talking about? MVP probably the best player at the moment in RO8. The semi-finals are okay for him yes, but only if he beats MVP, which i don't give him more than 10% chance to do. Also the finals he can face Polt. 'Nuff said. Actually, MvP is an absolute beast in TvT and TvZ but have previously been having really big problems in TvP. If he has fixed that, I'd agree, but it's not wrong to point to that flaw in his game. You're still under the impression that MVP is the same MVP from 3 months ago in TvP. Did you not see him demolish MC over and over again in recent games? And that's just one example off the top of my head, i don't remember the last time i saw him loss vs protoss recently. MC has been struggling against Terran for a while now. I think Huk has better PvT.
Hahahha come on. 0-3 at IEM. Can't beat Select...the guy that MC 3-0ed. Yes MC struggles vs terran and he's still probably the best PvT in the world that's the sad part about protoss.
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On August 24 2011 21:23 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:21 Merfyn wrote:On August 24 2011 21:20 Bashion wrote:``Current Voting Streak 4 Wrong votes in a row``  i had a Voting Streak of 7 Wrong Answers from Day 1 of RO16 and All but last game of Today Worst Voting Streak 10 Wrong votes in a row I don't remember when. Think i repressed the memory
Worst Voting Streak 10 Wrong votes in a row
oh sup bro
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On August 24 2011 21:20 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:18 GuardianEU wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 sleepingdog wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 medic_ro wrote:
Protoss in general should stop being so greedy with fast expo , impacient to get big toss ball. not like zergs who take a 3rd expo before 5 min to roflstomp with 200/200 roach 14 min into the game, no? hongun botched his defenses in the first game, in the 2nd one the nexus first was unnecessary. not much else to it, tbh Zergs do that because of protoss greed... your point is moot. 100% wrong. Protoss greed is needed on certain maps where you can't punish economic zerg play. 3 gate expo is crap on large maps. zergs have the ability to ridiculously outmacro protoss and you speak of the necessity of "punishing" protoss when they dare to build an early expansion....TL as it's best today
By going forge first, you can cannon the expo to punish the hatch first and defend easier against the all in.
By going nexus first ... eh.
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On August 24 2011 21:22 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:21 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:19 aebriol wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
This is probably Huk's easiest path possible to a championship. What are u talking about? MVP probably the best player at the moment in RO8. The semi-finals are okay for him yes, but only if he beats MVP, which i don't give him more than 10% chance to do. Also the finals he can face Polt. 'Nuff said. Actually, MvP is an absolute beast in TvT and TvZ but have previously been having really big problems in TvP. If he has fixed that, I'd agree, but it's not wrong to point to that flaw in his game. You're still under the impression that MVP is the same MVP from 3 months ago in TvP. Did you not see him demolish MC over and over again in recent games? And that's just one example off the top of my head, i don't remember the last time i saw him loss vs protoss recently. MC has been struggling against Terran for a while now. I think Huk has better PvT.
I really like to disagree here. Especially after HuK vs Select compared to MC vs Select.
And let's not forget about HuK vs Jimpo and HuK vs Tarson.
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It is good to know, that Nestea is mortal after all (^_^). Maybe it was just variance XD.
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summary for mvp vs nestea? huk vs nada games?
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On August 24 2011 21:22 -Archangel- wrote:Am I the only one really dissapointed with this months GSL? It is full of cheese and allins Reminds me of GSL Open Season 3.
also this month had a ton of top players either in Code A or knocked down to Up/Down earlier than expected. and a lot of the games there weren't cheese/all-in were pretty mediocre =\
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On August 24 2011 21:24 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:22 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On August 24 2011 21:21 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:19 aebriol wrote:On August 24 2011 21:17 King.Crimson wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
This is probably Huk's easiest path possible to a championship. What are u talking about? MVP probably the best player at the moment in RO8. The semi-finals are okay for him yes, but only if he beats MVP, which i don't give him more than 10% chance to do. Also the finals he can face Polt. 'Nuff said. Actually, MvP is an absolute beast in TvT and TvZ but have previously been having really big problems in TvP. If he has fixed that, I'd agree, but it's not wrong to point to that flaw in his game. You're still under the impression that MVP is the same MVP from 3 months ago in TvP. Did you not see him demolish MC over and over again in recent games? And that's just one example off the top of my head, i don't remember the last time i saw him loss vs protoss recently. MC has been struggling against Terran for a while now. I think Huk has better PvT. Hahahha come on. 0-3 at IEM. Can't beat Select...the guy that MC 3-0ed. Yes MC struggles vs terran and he's still probably the best PvT in the world that's the sad part about protoss.
Probably safer to say that he's struggling against 1/1/1.. like every other Protoss in SC2.
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On August 24 2011 21:24 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:22 La1 wrote:On August 24 2011 21:20 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On August 24 2011 21:19 Maghetti wrote:
Now all the best players left are on the same side of the bracket, I fear a MVP 4-0 victory in the finals at this rate. Who on the other side of the bracket can stop him? Genius. sad but true, gsl has the worst finals because of an awful group stage and bracketing meaning seeded players dont ever get split.. mvp has basically played 2 "would be" finalists already in nestea and MC.. the finals will suck :\ I think a Genius MVP finals would be pretty good. Genius wins his first GSL and gives the bird to Blizzard for not inviting him back to defend his Blizzcon title.
I agree on this, though I don't care for the results either way. Genius has looked pretty great vs Terrans lately and it would be awesome to see him making another good run. I think a finals between the two of them could be awesome, since MVP is unlikely to rely on the 1/1/1 crutch so many other Terrans have been.
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On August 24 2011 21:23 eloist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:21 branflakes14 wrote:
Well, the players everyone wants to see in the finals are being knocked out while Terran overall continues to dominate.
Just another day at the GSL really. 8 out of 16 players advance. 2 out of 4 Protosses advanced (2 out of 3 against Terran). 1 out of 2 Zergs advanced (0 out of 1 against Terran). 5 out of 10 Terran players advanced. Point out the 'continued' domination please.
Well, one race taking up 62.5% of the Ro16 and Ro8 spots strikes me as dominating. Maybe that's just me though.
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On August 24 2011 21:22 iamke55 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 24 2011 21:18 kheldorin wrote:On August 24 2011 21:16 KimJongChill wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 24 2011 21:11 etrensce wrote:
people cheer when July 1 bases, but crucify Ts when they 1 base. double standards. Because 1 base Z is generally terrible and usually loses...thus seeing it succeed is anomalous and impressive. The same cannot be said of T. 1 base T is common and very proven. Think past simple comparisons in the future please. Absolutely correct. Generally, one base zerg is creative, one base terran is abusive. Uhm..did you forget all the baneling busts and roach/ling all-in of previous seasons? People have such double standards. Did you forget how angry you were when this style completely failed against solid players like MC? Roachling and Bane busts are not hard to hold off. It's why July is the only zerg who still does them. (regularly) It's why July will never win a GSL, he uses tactics that rely on luck, luck that his opponent will make critical mistakes. It might work on Ro32/16 players, but the deeper he gets, the less that shit works, and he transitions into his muta/bane style which isn't that amazing compared to other zergs. Predicting that a golden mouse winner will never win a GSL. lol @ LR threads
he was finalists against MC in the 3rd season... this guys...
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anybody know who did that cover of "beat it" they play at the end? sounds pretty bad ass
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On August 24 2011 21:22 iamke55 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 24 2011 21:18 kheldorin wrote:On August 24 2011 21:16 KimJongChill wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 24 2011 21:11 etrensce wrote:
people cheer when July 1 bases, but crucify Ts when they 1 base. double standards. Because 1 base Z is generally terrible and usually loses...thus seeing it succeed is anomalous and impressive. The same cannot be said of T. 1 base T is common and very proven. Think past simple comparisons in the future please. Absolutely correct. Generally, one base zerg is creative, one base terran is abusive. Uhm..did you forget all the baneling busts and roach/ling all-in of previous seasons? People have such double standards. Did you forget how angry you were when this style completely failed against solid players like MC? Roachling and Bane busts are not hard to hold off. It's why July is the only zerg who still does them. (regularly) It's why July will never win a GSL, he uses tactics that rely on luck, luck that his opponent will make critical mistakes. It might work on Ro32/16 players, but the deeper he gets, the less that shit works, and he transitions into his muta/bane style which isn't that amazing compared to other zergs. Predicting that a golden mouse winner will never win a GSL. lol @ LR threads
Well, he could redirect the light with the golden mouse, to blind his opponents so they don't see the 6pool coming. That way he would definitely win a GSL. Unless he has to play MC and MC wears his sunglasses.
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On August 24 2011 21:21 perestain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:15 TimeFlighT wrote:On August 24 2011 21:14 perestain wrote:On August 24 2011 21:12 Eufouria wrote:On August 24 2011 21:11 etrensce wrote:
people cheer when July 1 bases, but crucify Ts when they 1 base. double standards. There are certain players who the community allows to cheese. July is one of them. July didn't cheese. He plays pretty solid, he just knows how much he can get away with in ZvP. Que? Lol 6 pool isn't cheese now? Pass us the great stuff that you're smoking. It seems pretty viable in ZvP. Atleast in the last few top level matches I've seen protoss lose even while holding it off initially. In my book to be called cheese it should lose most times if it fails. Thats not happening with 6pool in ZvP currently.
It's really not that viable. If protoss responds properly by sacking the forward pylon/forge, and just makes a cannon in his main mineral line, he's way way ahead. He can then 4 gate or 3 gate expand and be ahead in econ. HongUn did the first part well, but just lost focus on his army control, and lost it twice to lings. It was very well executed (albeit risky) attacks by July, but HongUn definitely messed up. So to sum up, 6 pool gets you so far behind in econ, that if you don't inflict ungodly amounts of damage, you're pretty much dead.
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On August 24 2011 21:23 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:22 EllipZ wrote:
i feel huk can win this.tvp is the weakest matchup of mvp and even if 1-1-1 is quite hard to hold nowadays maybe huk will find something with the maps of the matchs. I think huk stands a real chance, but forgive me if I'm mistaken but isn't huk going to MLG this weekend?
oh right, too much travels :x
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On August 24 2011 21:25 Akhee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:22 iamke55 wrote:On August 24 2011 21:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 24 2011 21:18 kheldorin wrote:On August 24 2011 21:16 KimJongChill wrote:On August 24 2011 21:15 FallDownMarigold wrote:On August 24 2011 21:11 etrensce wrote:
people cheer when July 1 bases, but crucify Ts when they 1 base. double standards. Because 1 base Z is generally terrible and usually loses...thus seeing it succeed is anomalous and impressive. The same cannot be said of T. 1 base T is common and very proven. Think past simple comparisons in the future please. Absolutely correct. Generally, one base zerg is creative, one base terran is abusive. Uhm..did you forget all the baneling busts and roach/ling all-in of previous seasons? People have such double standards. Did you forget how angry you were when this style completely failed against solid players like MC? Roachling and Bane busts are not hard to hold off. It's why July is the only zerg who still does them. (regularly) It's why July will never win a GSL, he uses tactics that rely on luck, luck that his opponent will make critical mistakes. It might work on Ro32/16 players, but the deeper he gets, the less that shit works, and he transitions into his muta/bane style which isn't that amazing compared to other zergs. Predicting that a golden mouse winner will never win a GSL. lol @ LR threads he was finalists against MC in the 3rd season... this guys...
that was the 5th gsl, in the 3rd one it was rain vs mc
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