EPTOn August 21 2011 03:28 Suffo wrote:
Yea but it doesn't mean he didn't try to either, sorry.
Yea but it doesn't mean he didn't try to either, sorry.
You have to prove that he did, not that he didn't, sorry.
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
You have to prove that he did, not that he didn't, sorry. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:27 hysterial wrote: Being in the chat doesn't mean you stream cheated, sorry. But being in the chat is against the rules of the tournament. It is impossible to prove someone stream cheated so they use the next best option. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:29 zeru wrote: You arent allowed to have any stream open while playing. There's proof of him being on the stream during the game in the users list. Why the hell would you sign into chat if you were going to stream cheat? | ||
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zeru
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:30 Redmark wrote: That's not really what witch hunt means anyway. If you look for witches before you have evidence, that's a witch hunt. If you have evidence and then you make accusations, that's just, well, an accusation. So you are saying no people accused him before having evidence? | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:32 zeru wrote: It automatically signs you in when you start a stream if you have auto-login activated on jtv/ttv Then let me rephrase. Why the hell would you have auto-login activated if you were going to streamcheat? | ||
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zeru
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:34 gruff wrote: Then let me rephrase. Why the hell would you have auto-login activated if you were going to streamcheat? Because you forgot you have it on auto-login? | ||
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diverzee
Sweden992 Posts
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:33 gruff wrote: So you are saying no people accused him before having evidence? Yes? Evidence doesn't mean 100% certain, that doesn't happen in this world. Those screenshots are pretty incriminating. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:34 gruff wrote: Then let me rephrase. Why the hell would you have auto-login activated if you were going to streamcheat? Why do killers not cover up their crimes better, your statement is, "Why would he be an idiot", which doesn't add anything to the discussion. I hope TL just comes up with a rule that says no players can stream...PERIOD. And the casters that are casting open games have to do them off of replays. I just hate the what-ifs this brings up and I think they should cut down on the ability for people to cheat. | ||
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wonder_
Norway8 Posts
On August 21 2011 02:50 Stealthypoo wrote: - Look, I did not stream cheat 100% I can explain this pretty simply. My round1 i had a bye. No matches. Round2 ihad a pvp which ended with a fast 4g. I had a long delay between my next games and had watched his stream while waiting for my round 3 which was a pvz. I closed the stream, but, left chat open and didn't notice. That's the whole story T-T who uses popout anyways except the streamers themselves.. lmao | ||
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TimMitchell
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:40 TimMitchell wrote: There isn't enough evidence to reprimand stealthypoo. If he gets DQ'd it's just going to make TL look bad. We should err on the side of caution and not DQ players unless there is sufficient evidence against him. So he admits to watching his stream at some point, *claims* he closed it yet is still in chat and has massive APM drops during points of the game. What more evidence do we need, a screenshot from the stream cheater himself stream cheating? | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:39 wonder_ wrote: who uses popout anyways except the streamers themselves.. lmao I do when i watch the streams on TL and not on twitch.tv | ||
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ThePowerHour
United States834 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:39 Demonace34 wrote: Why do killers not cover up their crimes better, your statement is, "Why would he be an idiot", which doesn't add anything to the discussion. I hope TL just comes up with a rule that says no players can stream...PERIOD. And the casters that are casting open games have to do them off of replays. I just hate the what-ifs this brings up and I think they should cut down on the ability for people to cheat. I'm not a fan of this solution. I'd rather go the way of computer security - have everyone know everything. In this case, how about everyone streams? It doesn't have to be high quality or high bitrate or anything, but if you have an internet connection, you can stream - and then you can open your stream so spectators and mods can see both sides of the action. | ||
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Tamotab
France38 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:26 Latham wrote: I haven't really been following these TLOpens since they turned completely NA based, but is it normal to have so few people signing up? I remember full 1024 men opens before. I was wondering the same thing... TL should really do more open in EU, it seems almost no pro-gamer registered for this tourney. | ||
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:37 FrankWalls wrote: i still dont understand why we are arguing about him stream cheating or not. the rule isnt against stream cheating. the rule is against having the stream open. he has in the stream chat the entire game, and undeniable proof has been given (including him confessing) that it was actually him. what is there to be arguing about? Yeah, I mean, I feel bad for the guy and I don't know for sure whether he streamcheated or not, but he broke the rules and TL has to enforce them to maintain the integrity of the tournament. It would be unacceptable in a live tournament situation to have anything open that could be construed as cheating, same standards should be applied here (when possible) | ||
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