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[VODS] TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open #21 - Page 50

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9053 Posts
August 21 2011 00:36 GMT
#981
Looks like Idra is still really good.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 21 2011 00:37 GMT
#982
happy heart won! <3

There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Essau
Profile Joined October 2010
United States47 Posts
August 21 2011 00:40 GMT
#983
I really wonder why people are concerned with him not GGing, it's not like it's something new.
Skaya
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
August 21 2011 00:45 GMT
#984
On August 21 2011 09:40 Essau wrote:
I really wonder why people are concerned with him not GGing, it's not like it's something new.



people like to pretend it's more of a slap in the face over manner nexus and mules.
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
August 21 2011 01:03 GMT
#985
On August 21 2011 09:30 TDN3 wrote:
Idra is not a top player any more. Time to retire.


o ya retire or go back to korea and work his way back up to the top? he played 12hr/day in cj entus house for a couple years, and if hes moving back into a team house over there he obviously still has the work ethic to do well in this game. retiring would be silly
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 21 2011 01:05 GMT
#986
Lol IdrA is under more scrutiny than any other player in the world. If he doesn't win everything he clearly is a bad player.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
August 21 2011 01:07 GMT
#987
tgun is getting so good. This makes me very happy.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
August 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#988
On August 21 2011 09:34 BronzeKnee wrote:
Heart is no slouch, nor is making top 2 in that tournament. Slayersdragon, Slayersgolden and Ranged all got knocked out well before the finals, heck even making it to the finals is quite difficult.

Idra played well, and almost pulled it out. It was a good series.


slayersdragon got knocked out by a stream cheater, someone on reddit spotted it ><
my hair is a wookie, your argument is invalid
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
August 21 2011 01:22 GMT
#989

Great run by Idra, although still showing a bit of weakness in ZvK.

Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
August 21 2011 01:24 GMT
#990
On August 21 2011 10:22 Wargizmo wrote:

Great run by Idra, although still showing a bit of weakness in ZvK.


vK is quite a hard match up. Overall a great showing by IdrA.
^O^
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
August 21 2011 01:35 GMT
#991
On August 21 2011 09:45 Skaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:40 Essau wrote:
I really wonder why people are concerned with him not GGing, it's not like it's something new.



people like to pretend it's more of a slap in the face over manner nexus and mules.


it is
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1751 Posts
August 21 2011 02:09 GMT
#992
i just saw until Ro16 and went out, is the Finals worth watching if VOD gets uploaded?
TDN3
Profile Joined August 2011
United States81 Posts
August 21 2011 02:19 GMT
#993
On August 21 2011 10:03 corpsepose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:30 TDN3 wrote:
Idra is not a top player any more. Time to retire.


o ya retire or go back to korea and work his way back up to the top? he played 12hr/day in cj entus house for a couple years, and if hes moving back into a team house over there he obviously still has the work ethic to do well in this game. retiring would be silly


With the way he acts, I don't think any team would want to have him in their team house.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
August 21 2011 03:26 GMT
#994
Good try anyways IdrA keep on going bud. Still the best foreigner! No one else can make it to the finals felt Koreans and you <3 fighting!
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 03:53:04
August 21 2011 03:36 GMT
#995
On August 21 2011 09:17 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:13 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:09 Leach wrote:
Heart won agains Naniwa yesterday in GSTL.... I guess that makes Naniwa too not a top player anymore... guys seriously, think before you write

Not just because he lost to heart. Because he is 4-18 vs koreans in his recent games, only taking games off heart and tandangho(lol) and his play has been very lackluster. Not to mention he's never won a tournament that didn't have purely NA players. He's simply not a top foreigner with this level of play.

Tbh, who has a good record vs Koreans atm? The fact that Idra has faced so many is indicative that he is placing high enough in tournaments to face them. Naniwa, Ret, Thorzain, all eu players except Mana, all NA players have terrible records vs Koreans (except PvP) and especially vs KR Terran, foreigners look absolutely hopeless.


some people have so much blind hatred for a player that they ignore all other facts.

i think idrA has dropped a level since leaving korea, but he is definitely still one of the top foreigners a tthe moment..

as for top foreigners performance against koreans:

Naniwa 3-14 v K (past 3 months)
Ret 1-12 v K (past 3 months)
thorzain 8-13 v K (past 3 months)
Sen 8-9 v K (past 3 months)
HuK 25-19 v K (past 3 months)
Sheth 7-12 v K (past 3 months)

The rest of the top foreigners havent even played enough games against koreans to make a comparison..

Huk's been in Korea so he has played mediocre Korean players as well so that kinda skews his results..
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 21 2011 03:39 GMT
#996
On August 21 2011 12:36 nufcrulz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 09:17 Micket wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:13 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:09 Leach wrote:
Heart won agains Naniwa yesterday in GSTL.... I guess that makes Naniwa too not a top player anymore... guys seriously, think before you write

Not just because he lost to heart. Because he is 4-18 vs koreans in his recent games, only taking games off heart and tandangho(lol) and his play has been very lackluster. Not to mention he's never won a tournament that didn't have purely NA players. He's simply not a top foreigner with this level of play.

Tbh, who has a good record vs Koreans atm? The fact that Idra has faced so many is indicative that he is placing high enough in tournaments to face them. Naniwa, Ret, Thorzain, all eu players except Mana, all NA players have terrible records vs Koreans (except PvP) and especially vs KR Terran, foreigners look absolutely hopeless.


some people have so much blind hatred for a player that they ignore all other facts.

i think idrA has dropped a level since leaving korea, but he is definitely still one of the top foreigners a tthe moment..

Results say he is a step below the top foreigners ATM. Who are the other top NA players? Sheth, Huk. Idra just lost to both. Top EU players? Nani, Ret, thorzain, nerchio, mana. Lost to all of them. Top foreigner zerg, sen. Lost to him 3 times.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 03:44:32
August 21 2011 03:44 GMT
#997
On August 21 2011 12:39 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 12:36 nufcrulz wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:17 Micket wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:13 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:09 Leach wrote:
Heart won agains Naniwa yesterday in GSTL.... I guess that makes Naniwa too not a top player anymore... guys seriously, think before you write

Not just because he lost to heart. Because he is 4-18 vs koreans in his recent games, only taking games off heart and tandangho(lol) and his play has been very lackluster. Not to mention he's never won a tournament that didn't have purely NA players. He's simply not a top foreigner with this level of play.

Tbh, who has a good record vs Koreans atm? The fact that Idra has faced so many is indicative that he is placing high enough in tournaments to face them. Naniwa, Ret, Thorzain, all eu players except Mana, all NA players have terrible records vs Koreans (except PvP) and especially vs KR Terran, foreigners look absolutely hopeless.


some people have so much blind hatred for a player that they ignore all other facts.

i think idrA has dropped a level since leaving korea, but he is definitely still one of the top foreigners a tthe moment..

Results say he is a step below the top foreigners ATM. Who are the other top NA players? Sheth, Huk. Idra just lost to both. Top EU players? Nani, Ret, thorzain, nerchio, mana. Lost to all of them. Top foreigner zerg, sen. Lost to him 3 times.

also beaten ret/sen/huk/ 5-3 against mana all time. 3-0d sheth in their showmatch, beat ret at the last mlg they played at. Your point? You think it's hard to make any player look bad when you only list their losses?
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 03:49:32
August 21 2011 03:46 GMT
#998
On August 21 2011 12:44 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 12:39 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 12:36 nufcrulz wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:17 Micket wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:13 Jinivus wrote:
On August 21 2011 09:09 Leach wrote:
Heart won agains Naniwa yesterday in GSTL.... I guess that makes Naniwa too not a top player anymore... guys seriously, think before you write

Not just because he lost to heart. Because he is 4-18 vs koreans in his recent games, only taking games off heart and tandangho(lol) and his play has been very lackluster. Not to mention he's never won a tournament that didn't have purely NA players. He's simply not a top foreigner with this level of play.

Tbh, who has a good record vs Koreans atm? The fact that Idra has faced so many is indicative that he is placing high enough in tournaments to face them. Naniwa, Ret, Thorzain, all eu players except Mana, all NA players have terrible records vs Koreans (except PvP) and especially vs KR Terran, foreigners look absolutely hopeless.


some people have so much blind hatred for a player that they ignore all other facts.

i think idrA has dropped a level since leaving korea, but he is definitely still one of the top foreigners a tthe moment..

Results say he is a step below the top foreigners ATM. Who are the other top NA players? Sheth, Huk. Idra just lost to both. Top EU players? Nani, Ret, thorzain, nerchio, mana. Lost to all of them. Top foreigner zerg, sen. Lost to him 3 times.

also beaten ret/sen/huk/ 5-3 against mana all time. 3-0d sheth in their showmatch, beat ret at the last mlg they played at. Your point? You think it's hard to make any player look bad when you only list their losses?
We're talking about his current results. Like this/last month where he's done nothing but lose to these players. Note my use of the acronym "ATM".
HiNoon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States31 Posts
August 21 2011 04:10 GMT
#999
was watching the desrow stream during the tourney, props to him: 2-1'd Hwangsin and took a game off of IdrA, looks like he's been training.
dRw fighting!
ThorZaIN / HuK / HerO / iNcontroL / MKP / IdrA / State <3
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 21 2011 04:12 GMT
#1000
The thing is, even if Idra won it wouldn't mean anything. He is the one who said we should never take the results of these NA-KR cross server games seriously.
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