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Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
August 20 2011 17:35 GMT
#21
On August 21 2011 02:34 nOondn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:33 Hammer442 wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:30 cyprin wrote:
wow dragon lost
and the guy was in his stream chat
http://imgur.com/dFy9R

-_-

Screenshot from when the game is over? o.O Not exactly very good proof to accuse people of cheating.



what about this one

http://i.imgur.com/2wSmP.jpg

?

Ok that one works ^^ scum cheaters.
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
August 20 2011 17:37 GMT
#22
And this, from http://www.twitch.tv/stealthypoo

http://imgur.com/SH1s6
dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
August 20 2011 17:38 GMT
#23
Admins gonna do anything about Stealthypoo stream cheating? or is it streamers fault for streaming
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 20 2011 17:39 GMT
#24
you'd have to look at the replay. just being in chat by itself doesn't mean anything
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 20 2011 17:40 GMT
#25
Who else is looking forward to FXOz vs FXOtz? :D
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 20 2011 17:40 GMT
#26
On August 21 2011 02:39 Alejandrisha wrote:
you'd have to look at the replay. just being in chat by itself doesn't mean anything

You shouldn't be in chat in the first place (though the same argument could be made about streaming, something's gotta give).
Lanfire
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands151 Posts
August 20 2011 17:40 GMT
#27
where there's smoke, there's fire
¯(°_o)/¯
Sc2Requiem
Profile Joined June 2011
United States121 Posts
August 20 2011 17:42 GMT
#28
Lots of red flags, but no definitive proof he cheated.
"What is defeat? Nothing but education; nothing but the first step towards something better."
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
August 20 2011 17:42 GMT
#29
On August 21 2011 02:39 Alejandrisha wrote:
you'd have to look at the replay. just being in chat by itself doesn't mean anything

The evidence put out right now leaves little room for reasonable doubt. It's like a murder where the murderer is tied to the weapon, has no alibi, has a motive, and the only real doubt boils down to "Well, we don't have any video evidence of the murder, right?"
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 20 2011 17:43 GMT
#30
On August 21 2011 02:40 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:39 Alejandrisha wrote:
you'd have to look at the replay. just being in chat by itself doesn't mean anything

You shouldn't be in chat in the first place (though the same argument could be made about streaming, something's gotta give).


Why shouldn't he be in the chat? perhaps he was watching dragon's previous game and didn't close the chat box. you could even have the stream actually running but with no sound and not look at it and it's not cheating. you have to actually look at the stream and do something in-game based off of that to be "cheating."

What if he was stream cheating but never entered the chat? you'd never know based on the chat list which means absolutely nothing. Wait for the replay review (if there is one) before saying anything definitive.
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DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
August 20 2011 17:44 GMT
#31
On August 21 2011 02:42 Bloodyscissors wrote:
Lots of red flags, but no definitive proof he cheated.


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ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:46:04
August 20 2011 17:45 GMT
#32
Read: Everyone go ahead and stream cheat, since we can't prove you actually cheated and screenshots of you with the stream open aren't conclusive enough.
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McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
August 20 2011 17:46 GMT
#33
Well at least have refs check the replay please. You can easily tell by it if he was stream cheating.
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iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
August 20 2011 17:47 GMT
#34
On August 21 2011 02:40 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:39 Alejandrisha wrote:
you'd have to look at the replay. just being in chat by itself doesn't mean anything

You shouldn't be in chat in the first place (though the same argument could be made about streaming, something's gotta give).


There are plenty of times where I've been playing in a koth or something and I just mute or pause the stream when I get invited to play, and I'd be pretty annoyed if people started accusing my of streamcheating just from being in chat.

It's a shame that we even have to worry about streamcheating, but if you stream tournament games you're clearly not taking the tournament very seriously, given the high risk.
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ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:48:15
August 20 2011 17:47 GMT
#35
On August 21 2011 02:47 vVvTime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:40 Redmark wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:39 Alejandrisha wrote:
you'd have to look at the replay. just being in chat by itself doesn't mean anything

You shouldn't be in chat in the first place (though the same argument could be made about streaming, something's gotta give).


There are plenty of times where I've been playing in a koth or something and I just mute or pause the stream when I get invited to play, and I'd be pretty annoyed if people started accusing my of streamcheating just from being in chat.

It's a shame that we even have to worry about streamcheating, but if you stream tournament games you're clearly not taking the tournament very seriously, given the high risk.



Regardless of his intention, this rule is stated pretty clearly:

- Players may not have any stream open in the background when playing.
+5 Insightful
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
August 20 2011 17:50 GMT
#36
- Look, I did not stream cheat 100%

I can explain this pretty simply.

My round1 i had a bye. No matches. Round2 ihad a pvp which ended with a fast 4g. I had a long delay between my next games and had watched his stream while waiting for my round 3 which was a pvz. I closed the stream, but, left chat open and didn't notice. That's the whole story T-T
Try hard or don't try at all.
arWardcity
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5 Posts
August 20 2011 17:50 GMT
#37
Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Forget this stealthypoo clown, get dragon back!!
PonyWA
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#38
How can you see from a replay if he stream cheated? (suppose he has two screens)
arWardcity
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#39
Didn't cheat 100%, only like 80% cheated.
tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#40
On August 21 2011 02:40 tree.hugger wrote:
Who else is looking forward to FXOz vs FXOtz? :D


FXOtz is FXOinOri
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