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ArsenalMark
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom15 Posts
August 20 2011 18:13 GMT
#61
On August 21 2011 02:50 Stealthypoo wrote:
- Look, I did not stream cheat 100%

I can explain this pretty simply.

My round1 i had a bye. No matches. Round2 ihad a pvp which ended with a fast 4g. I had a long delay between my next games and had watched his stream while waiting for my round 3 which was a pvz. I closed the stream, but, left chat open and didn't notice. That's the whole story T-T


Really doesn't matter, you've been caught and I honestly don't believe you would just "forget" to comply with one of the major rules of the tournament.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
August 20 2011 18:13 GMT
#62
On August 21 2011 02:58 Sea_Food wrote:
If I wanted, it would take me exactly 10 second to frame someone stream cheating. Stop your dragon fanboyism plz.

The guy admitted to being in the chat. Read the thread.

The evidence is quite against him atm. You shouldn't be in the stream chat regardless of anything and if you are, you should be punished. Pro athletes are punished if they are tested positive for an illegal substance, even if they had no idea they took it, or it was found on a mislabeled vitamin supplement. Sure, there is no evidence of cheating, but there is no evidence in the athletes case either.
Deyster
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Jordan579 Posts
August 20 2011 18:14 GMT
#63
I think the TL admins are aware of the issue now. If people start a witch hunt, it would just lead to massive bans in this thread. Just have faith in the TL admins, they will certainly deal with it, or at least prevent such stuff from happening at future TL opens.

Just trying to spare some people some bans they might not need to have.
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hamchan
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:26:24
August 20 2011 18:14 GMT
#64
On August 21 2011 02:50 Stealthypoo wrote:
- Look, I did not stream cheat 100%

I can explain this pretty simply.

My round1 i had a bye. No matches. Round2 ihad a pvp which ended with a fast 4g. I had a long delay between my next games and had watched his stream while waiting for my round 3 which was a pvz. I closed the stream, but, left chat open and didn't notice. That's the whole story T-T


Now if you're telling the truth I feel kinda bad for you man.

However you shouldn't have left the chat open; what an incredibly dumb thing to do. It's incredibly damning and I really don't blame people that are attacking you right now. If the stream chat counts as leaving the stream open in the background (it probably does/should) then you just have to accept it.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
August 20 2011 18:17 GMT
#65
is there a rule against stream cheating though.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 20 2011 18:18 GMT
#66
There is 0 proof. Stop starting a Witch-Hunt. This is like that Idra/Cruncher thing. Let the TL admins analyze the replay. If their is evidence then action will be taken, if not then drop it. At this point qqing non-stop is goin to accomplish nothing. I love Dragon, but if you are actually serious about tying to win one of these tourneys(I think he is joining it more for the fun factor) you should take down the stream.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
August 20 2011 18:18 GMT
#67
On August 21 2011 03:17 Garnet wrote:
is there a rule against stream cheating though.


You aren't suppose to have anyone elses stream open at all. You can stream but you can't watch if you are in the tournament.
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Nightrain
Profile Joined August 2010
481 Posts
August 20 2011 18:18 GMT
#68
On August 21 2011 03:17 Garnet wrote:
is there a rule against stream cheating though.


good question, have you tried reading the rules though?
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ArsenalMark
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom15 Posts
August 20 2011 18:19 GMT
#69
On August 21 2011 03:17 Garnet wrote:
is there a rule against stream cheating though.


Yes, you're not allowed to have any stream open.

"Players may not have any stream open in the background when playing."
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
August 20 2011 18:20 GMT
#70
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Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
August 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#71
On August 21 2011 03:12 travis wrote:

I'd be fine with this guy being banned if you have some sort of actual proof he was cheating. Maybe an official could look at the replay?



I'd really love if someone(admin) looked at the replay to end the controversy. This whole situation is pretty upsetting t-t

Try hard or don't try at all.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:22:10
August 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#72
On August 21 2011 03:12 travis wrote:
How about he just learns not to stream during the tournament next time and takes his loss?

(which I expect he has no problem doing)



I'd be fine with this guy being banned if you have some sort of actual proof he was cheating. Maybe an official could look at the replay?

Isn't stream cheating literally impossible to prove unless he admits it himself? The rule is, if he has his opponent's stream open during a match, he gets DQ'd but he can still just sidestep the evidence by saying he only had the chat open.

Doesn't TL deactivate streams based on circumstantial evidence alone (deezer)? I feel there is more circumstantial evidence against stealthypoo
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:27:55
August 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#73
On August 21 2011 02:55 No_Creativity wrote:
I played Stealthypoo the game before dragon, I was streaming too. I happen to lose to a weird 6 gate 8 min 20 sec warp in 1 gas 35 probe no +1 attack/ all zelots. Just happen to drop his apm to 0 a few times. ^^ just my input.


I am flabbergasted, and I expect a reaction or in the very least a report on what will/won't be done because this degrades the very legitimacy of this tournament.

EDIT:
On August 21 2011 02:50 Stealthypoo wrote:
- Look, I did not stream cheat 100%

I can explain this pretty simply.

My round1 i had a bye. No matches. Round2 ihad a pvp which ended with a fast 4g. I had a long delay between my next games and had watched his stream while waiting for my round 3 which was a pvz. I closed the stream, but, left chat open and didn't notice. That's the whole story T-T


And the truth is told.
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
August 20 2011 18:25 GMT
#74
On August 21 2011 03:18 hysterial wrote:
There is 0 proof. Stop starting a Witch-Hunt.

Too late, Reddit have already started it.

Can we actually take it easy and wait for admins to react, or get access to the replay so that we can check ourselves?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9558 Posts
August 20 2011 18:26 GMT
#75
I haven't really been following these TLOpens since they turned completely NA based, but is it normal to have so few people signing up? I remember full 1024 men opens before.
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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
August 20 2011 18:26 GMT
#76
On August 21 2011 03:12 travis wrote:
How about he just learns not to stream during the tournament next time and takes his loss?

(which I expect he has no problem doing)



I'd be fine with this guy being banned if you have some sort of actual proof he was cheating. Maybe an official could look at the replay?


theres proof that he broke the rules though... no other proof needs to be presented
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hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 20 2011 18:27 GMT
#77
On August 21 2011 03:20 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:18 hysterial wrote:
There is 0 proof. Stop starting a Witch-Hunt. This is like that Idra/Cruncher thing. Let the TL admins analyze the replay. If their is evidence then action will be taken, if not then drop it. At this point qqing non-stop is goin to accomplish nothing. I love Dragon, but if you are actually serious about tying to win one of these tourneys(I think he is joining it more for the fun factor) you should take down the stream.

Proof has been posted.


Being in the chat doesn't mean you stream cheated, sorry.
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:28:27
August 20 2011 18:28 GMT
#78
On August 21 2011 03:27 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:20 zeru wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:18 hysterial wrote:
There is 0 proof. Stop starting a Witch-Hunt. This is like that Idra/Cruncher thing. Let the TL admins analyze the replay. If their is evidence then action will be taken, if not then drop it. At this point qqing non-stop is goin to accomplish nothing. I love Dragon, but if you are actually serious about tying to win one of these tourneys(I think he is joining it more for the fun factor) you should take down the stream.

Proof has been posted.


Being in the chat doesn't mean you stream cheated, sorry.


Yea but it doesn't mean he didn't try to either, sorry.
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 20 2011 18:28 GMT
#79
On August 21 2011 03:27 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:20 zeru wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:18 hysterial wrote:
There is 0 proof. Stop starting a Witch-Hunt. This is like that Idra/Cruncher thing. Let the TL admins analyze the replay. If their is evidence then action will be taken, if not then drop it. At this point qqing non-stop is goin to accomplish nothing. I love Dragon, but if you are actually serious about tying to win one of these tourneys(I think he is joining it more for the fun factor) you should take down the stream.

Proof has been posted.


Being in the chat doesn't mean you stream cheated, sorry.


There's a rule that says "you cant have a stream open", since he had a stream open he broke the rule and TL is going to act accordingly. Like it or not.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
August 20 2011 18:29 GMT
#80
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