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Stim.TV Showmatch: EG.iNcontroL vs. Destiny - Page 15

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Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#281
Loved the blink play around the ramps there to grant vision of the high ground.
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#282
all in much? Maybe, but destiny saw a twilight council but didn't make enough units, he kept producing drones. had he cut + that static D, he would have held it and won. on to game 5!
:P
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#283
Incontrol showing some sick macro.
Snitches get stiches
FreedomPeacer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada67 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#284
combatex <3
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#285
Good blink build by iNcontrol. Such an annoying build to deal with in general.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27206 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#286
On August 14 2011 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:30 Jinivus wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:22 slicknav wrote:
As mediocre as these casters are, I agree with their statement that Protoss players haven't been very innovative. They stick to the same things that have been for a while, while Terran and Zerg have been coming out with new styles.

How? MC has innovated various styles in both matchups...how can you say P is the least innovative when they have the most innovative player so far (MC) recently with his Stargate PvZ and chargelot/archon PvT. Along with his gateway timings and other things.


MC is the only truly innovative protoss. He doesn't just make cute builds to get ahead, he refines and popularizes unique playstyles as well as many specific builds to counter certain problems in the metagame. And some of those only work due to his exceptional macro and unit control.

He's refined Protoss to the point it really cannot be further refined. I'm interested to see what comes up next in our metagame
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#287
A pylon on the lowground on the corner of Destiny's base would have allowed to warp in a quick 4 zealots in the main, making this build even stronger.

Well played.
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#288
Can that be the last all-in please? I'd like to see some actual matches.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 14 2011 03:39 GMT
#289
On August 14 2011 12:38 Mycl wrote:
Loved the blink play around the ramps there to grant vision of the high ground.

seriously that was so good. blink one stalker on to the ramp and blink the rest up to the high ground. I haven't seen that before.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 03:40:26
August 14 2011 03:39 GMT
#290
go go pylon wall into cannon rushing nat expo

edit: and destiny pools first
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
ZestyPickle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States104 Posts
August 14 2011 03:39 GMT
#291
whats the score?
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 14 2011 03:40 GMT
#292
On August 14 2011 12:38 Ubertron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:30 Jinivus wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:22 slicknav wrote:
As mediocre as these casters are, I agree with their statement that Protoss players haven't been very innovative. They stick to the same things that have been for a while, while Terran and Zerg have been coming out with new styles.

How? MC has innovated various styles in both matchups...how can you say P is the least innovative when they have the most innovative player so far (MC) recently with his Stargate PvZ and chargelot/archon PvT. Along with his gateway timings and other things.


MC is the only truly innovative protoss. He doesn't just make cute builds to get ahead, he refines and popularizes unique playstyles as well as many specific builds to counter certain problems in the metagame. And some of those only work due to his exceptional macro and unit control.

He's refined Protoss to the point it really cannot be further refined. I'm interested to see what comes up next in our metagame

I don't want to believe that :[
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
August 14 2011 03:40 GMT
#293
isnt it 2-2?
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 14 2011 03:40 GMT
#294
On August 14 2011 12:40 29 fps wrote:
isnt it 2-2?

yeah it is
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slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 14 2011 03:40 GMT
#295
On August 14 2011 12:30 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:22 slicknav wrote:
As mediocre as these casters are, I agree with their statement that Protoss players haven't been very innovative. They stick to the same things that have been for a while, while Terran and Zerg have been coming out with new styles.

How? MC has innovated various styles in both matchups...how can you say P is the least innovative when they have the most innovative player so far (MC) recently with his Stargate PvZ and chargelot/archon PvT. Along with his gateway timings and other things.


I have to disagree on MC being the most innovative player. That trophy goes to Nestea. Zerg and Terran player have several innovative players with unique styles, DRG, Losira, Idra, MVP, Thorzain, Bomber, probably several more. I think the successful Protoss players are not so because of their unique styles, but because of their superior mechanics.
blah blah blah...
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#296
just tuning in. can't believe it's 2-2. I thought destiny would have this pretty easily o.O
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27206 Posts
August 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#297
MC is only regarded as not being innovative because he pretty much came up with, or perfected a LARGE proportion of viable Protoss builds. Because they have become standard now people all too easily forget this.

Sage has an interesting style, but it's ridiculous in the skillsets required to pull it off
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#298
On August 14 2011 12:40 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:30 Jinivus wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:22 slicknav wrote:
As mediocre as these casters are, I agree with their statement that Protoss players haven't been very innovative. They stick to the same things that have been for a while, while Terran and Zerg have been coming out with new styles.

How? MC has innovated various styles in both matchups...how can you say P is the least innovative when they have the most innovative player so far (MC) recently with his Stargate PvZ and chargelot/archon PvT. Along with his gateway timings and other things.


I have to disagree on MC being the most innovative player. That trophy goes to Nestea. Zerg and Terran player have several innovative players with unique styles, DRG, Losira, Idra, MVP, Thorzain, Bomber, probably several more. I think the successful Protoss players are not so because of their unique styles, but because of their superior mechanics.

MC's perhaps not the most innovative but he's the most innovative Protoss player. He's popularized so many Pv builds and refined them to near perfection.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 14 2011 03:43 GMT
#299
On August 14 2011 12:40 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:30 Jinivus wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:22 slicknav wrote:
As mediocre as these casters are, I agree with their statement that Protoss players haven't been very innovative. They stick to the same things that have been for a while, while Terran and Zerg have been coming out with new styles.

How? MC has innovated various styles in both matchups...how can you say P is the least innovative when they have the most innovative player so far (MC) recently with his Stargate PvZ and chargelot/archon PvT. Along with his gateway timings and other things.


I have to disagree on MC being the most innovative player. That trophy goes to Nestea. Zerg and Terran player have several innovative players with unique styles, DRG, Losira, Idra, MVP, Thorzain, Bomber, probably several more. I think the successful Protoss players are not so because of their unique styles, but because of their superior mechanics.

Nestea really hasn't innovated that much...he's just had really good play. MC has like 10 builds and protoss wouldn't be what they are without him. I don't think I could say that about nestea...What builds has he come up with, spinecrawler rush is all I can think of. I admit I haven't watched THAT much of Nestea but I don't think he's ever shifted the metagame immensely
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 14 2011 03:44 GMT
#300
On August 14 2011 12:40 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:30 Jinivus wrote:
On August 14 2011 12:22 slicknav wrote:
As mediocre as these casters are, I agree with their statement that Protoss players haven't been very innovative. They stick to the same things that have been for a while, while Terran and Zerg have been coming out with new styles.

How? MC has innovated various styles in both matchups...how can you say P is the least innovative when they have the most innovative player so far (MC) recently with his Stargate PvZ and chargelot/archon PvT. Along with his gateway timings and other things.


I have to disagree on MC being the most innovative player. That trophy goes to Nestea. Zerg and Terran player have several innovative players with unique styles, DRG, Losira, Idra, MVP, Thorzain, Bomber, probably several more. I think the successful Protoss players are not so because of their unique styles, but because of their superior mechanics.


I think he has been the most innovative player but it came out of necessity. The Protoss metagame is somewhat stale compared to their counterparts, and MC was responsible for most of the popular Protoss builds in all matchups.
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