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On August 08 2011 02:26 Baituri wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:24 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:22 Talin wrote:On August 08 2011 02:19 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:17 Talin wrote:On August 08 2011 02:16 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. LOL Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? Yes placing second is really losing. Get a reality check mate Should Naniwa get a reality check too? He didn't look like the guy who just won. You make him sound like his the incarnation of some sun God. Maybe he is indeed to hard on himself? Actually Naniwa already thinks high of himself, he is just a bit sad he did not place first, but really, he is a winner and Im sure he knows this as well. What about MarineKing then? He seems to be taking it rather hard as well. Maybe you need to reconsider your stance on that. Yes, second place is a good ranking for an up and coming player, and such a player will be reasonably happy about placing second in a big tournament. And even that's not always the case, as we've seen with MMA in the super tournament. For people who want to and are expected to win trophies? No fucking way. Not even close. They feel awful, and it's normal that they do. In some ways it's the worst ranking they can get. yes then they need a reality check Just because you are not motivated in the thing you do and are happy with a 2nd place does not mean someone else needs a reality check. Some people just want to get the most out of themselves and be the best at something. Some people have ambition and will do anything to reach their goal. Please don't post such stupid things.
Are you telling me that you are not motivated if you are happy with a second place, whilst aiming for first?
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On August 08 2011 02:26 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:16 soulist wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. LOL Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? Consistency. Learn it, Read it, Love it. It will get you somewhere He won Winter Assembly and has also had pretty good showings at every MLG this season, as well as having a great NASL season. Ret hasn't played in that much, but you can't call him inconsistent. o.o
I feel like Ret always has been a very mood dependent player and sometimes lose focus for extended periods of times and therefore drop in skill level. I think thats why some people call him inconsistent.
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On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean)
I think Ret = Naniwa in that post.
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On August 08 2011 02:23 last.resistance wrote:
Also, the brackets for the NA invitational are up:
HuK vs Ostojiy
Select vs TTOne
Kiwikaki vs Sheth
Idra vs DDE
:O those are on the 12th? HuK has a GSL match on the 10th. He's gonna be so jet lagged.
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Sen has never won any major tourney. His highest rank was #3 at NASL. The last time IdrA won was IPL with full of NA players, and we all know that NA server is just the playground of IdrA, SeleCT and Kiwi. DiMaGa and Ret are the only true best zerg players from my perspective.
IdrA fans need to back off a lil bit lol
Sen should have beaten MC and beat July in a manly fashion in NASL.
IdrA ranked higher than Ret in every mlg (and 2-0 ret in columbus), in hsc3, and currently is placed better than ret in IPL2. And he just qualified for IEM.
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On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean)
Huk is European. Fact.
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On August 08 2011 02:28 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean) Ret is clearly korean too, considering he lived there for a while.
Of course Ret's korean, why are we even discussing this?
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report beyonder for trolling, d-(^-^)z
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It's a Summer Jam and Ret is building drones!
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On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean)
haha i see what u did there :D
funniest LR ever
OT: Amazing event and crowd!
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Oh my god this song is so old ! Bring back old memories :p
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On August 08 2011 02:28 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Baituri wrote:On August 08 2011 02:24 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:22 Talin wrote:On August 08 2011 02:19 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:17 Talin wrote:On August 08 2011 02:16 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:
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LOL
Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? Yes placing second is really losing. Get a reality check mate Should Naniwa get a reality check too? He didn't look like the guy who just won. You make him sound like his the incarnation of some sun God. Maybe he is indeed to hard on himself? Actually Naniwa already thinks high of himself, he is just a bit sad he did not place first, but really, he is a winner and Im sure he knows this as well. What about MarineKing then? He seems to be taking it rather hard as well. Maybe you need to reconsider your stance on that. Yes, second place is a good ranking for an up and coming player, and such a player will be reasonably happy about placing second in a big tournament. And even that's not always the case, as we've seen with MMA in the super tournament. For people who want to and are expected to win trophies? No fucking way. Not even close. They feel awful, and it's normal that they do. In some ways it's the worst ranking they can get. yes then they need a reality check Just because you are not motivated in the thing you do and are happy with a 2nd place does not mean someone else needs a reality check. Some people just want to get the most out of themselves and be the best at something. Some people have ambition and will do anything to reach their goal. Please don't post such stupid things. Are you telling me that you are not motivated if you are happy with a second place, whilst aiming for first?
Yes? If you aim for the top and fail you should be sad/mad. It has happened many times for naniwa these last 6 months so i understand him being sad after coming short at the finish line every time. Do people in hockey / football look happy when they loose the finals?
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On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean)
On that note, I think you should have closed this thread.
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On August 08 2011 02:27 Brainiac wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:25 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
At least we now know that Nerchio isn't legit :/ I wouldn't take anything away from Nerchio. He is very young, he doesn't have any stage experience, it was really hard for him to concentrate and play his 100%. You can clearly see that he prefers playing online events in his house without pressure.
Agreed, he played very well for a first timer, I'd have come out much worse if I was in his shoes. Congrats to him and how he will progress from here on, must be proud to be representing locally.
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I just realized that it's extremely possible for Liquid to have 3 members at Blizzcon. 
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On August 08 2011 02:28 Robinsa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Jibba wrote:On August 08 2011 02:16 soulist wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. LOL Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? Consistency. Learn it, Read it, Love it. It will get you somewhere He won Winter Assembly and has also had pretty good showings at every MLG this season, as well as having a great NASL season. Ret hasn't played in that much, but you can't call him inconsistent. o.o I feel like Ret always has been a very mood dependent player and sometimes lose focus for extended periods of times and therefore drop in skill level. I think thats why some people call him inconsistent.
Well, he sometimes makes very sloppy mistakes, especially with unit control, but that happened this tournament as well.
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On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean)
rets code a game? wut ? did i miss something or ret is going to korea again lol
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On August 08 2011 02:27 darlhet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:24 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:20 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:18 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:11 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:09 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:08 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:06 sickoota wrote:On August 08 2011 02:05 soulist wrote:
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He's been to a lot of tournaments???? WHAT. All he does is MLG and IPL. What tournaments does he go to??????? Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them. He won MLG DC and got 4th at MLG Columbus. DC was quite a bit ago cmon, ret won assembly last winter but that doesnt tell us about his shape now? He's the one who brought up every MLG. I think winning one is a notable performance. 4th place isn't something to sneeze at either, considering the top 3 were Koreans and this thread is talking about foreigners. not sure what to answer, so you think that to see how good a player is now we should look at all the results they had? that's nonsense currently players like dimaga and ret step it up winning in very hard competitions vs top players , if Idra does the same he can be considered again among the best no problem;) not saying he's bad by any means , just saying that right now he's not equal with other top zergs In this particular conversation I'm not even discussing "how good is IdrA?" I'm correcting an incorrect statement: Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.This statement simply isn't true. It's factually false. ye he had a top 4 two MLGs ago, gratz You're completely clueless, gratz. top 12 at anaheim? :S am i missing something as of late?
In summary:
darlhet: The world is flat!
Me: Actually, the world is a sphere.
darlhet: IdrA isn't nearly as good as Ret!
Me: I didn't say he was.
darlhet: Am I missing something?????
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On August 08 2011 02:28 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:28 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:27 Beyonder wrote:On August 08 2011 02:26 Zzoram wrote:
I'm worried about Ret's Code A game since it's PvZ. I hope he has a good Zerg training partner. Can we officially move the topic of discussion on Ret's protoss skills now? Best protoss foreigner imo (because huk is Korean) Ret is clearly korean too, considering he lived there for a while. Of course Ret's korean, why are we even discussing this?
Yup, Koreanism is contagious, you spend some time playing Starcraft there and it's done man.
But that would make Artosis Korean as well, and that just doesn't work out well. 
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