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On August 08 2011 02:34 darlhet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:31 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:27 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:24 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:20 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:18 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:11 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:09 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:08 MrSexington wrote:
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He won MLG DC and got 4th at MLG Columbus. DC was quite a bit ago cmon, ret won assembly last winter but that doesnt tell us about his shape now? He's the one who brought up every MLG. I think winning one is a notable performance. 4th place isn't something to sneeze at either, considering the top 3 were Koreans and this thread is talking about foreigners. not sure what to answer, so you think that to see how good a player is now we should look at all the results they had? that's nonsense currently players like dimaga and ret step it up winning in very hard competitions vs top players , if Idra does the same he can be considered again among the best no problem;) not saying he's bad by any means , just saying that right now he's not equal with other top zergs In this particular conversation I'm not even discussing "how good is IdrA?" I'm correcting an incorrect statement: Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.This statement simply isn't true. It's factually false. ye he had a top 4 two MLGs ago, gratz You're completely clueless, gratz. top 12 at anaheim? :S am i missing something as of late? In summary: darlhet: The world is flat! Me: Actually, the world is a sphere. darlhet: IdrA isn't nearly as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga! Me: I didn't say he was. darlhet: Am I missing something????? yep the discussion was about world's flatness and since you agree idra is currently a little bit behind ret sen and dimaga i guess we can end this conversation here 
1. The discussion has been about people making incorrect statements by including words like "every" for no reason other than to talk trash.
2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga.
3. You still don't understand what I'm talking about.
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On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments.
Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true.
Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer (because huk is korean, idra is in a slump, sen is kind of korean, jinro has been korean forever, and naniwa and thorzain are moving to korea so they will be koreans soon too)
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On August 08 2011 02:39 darlhet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. i dont get if this guy is trolling or he's serious :S still trying to figure out
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not about wondering if he's trolling or not.
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On August 08 2011 02:40 MrSexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:34 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:31 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:27 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:24 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:20 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:18 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:11 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:09 darlhet wrote:
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DC was quite a bit ago cmon, ret won assembly last winter but that doesnt tell us about his shape now? He's the one who brought up every MLG. I think winning one is a notable performance. 4th place isn't something to sneeze at either, considering the top 3 were Koreans and this thread is talking about foreigners. not sure what to answer, so you think that to see how good a player is now we should look at all the results they had? that's nonsense currently players like dimaga and ret step it up winning in very hard competitions vs top players , if Idra does the same he can be considered again among the best no problem;) not saying he's bad by any means , just saying that right now he's not equal with other top zergs In this particular conversation I'm not even discussing "how good is IdrA?" I'm correcting an incorrect statement: Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.This statement simply isn't true. It's factually false. ye he had a top 4 two MLGs ago, gratz You're completely clueless, gratz. top 12 at anaheim? :S am i missing something as of late? In summary: darlhet: The world is flat! Me: Actually, the world is a sphere. darlhet: IdrA isn't nearly as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga! Me: I didn't say he was. darlhet: Am I missing something????? yep the discussion was about world's flatness and since you agree idra is currently a little bit behind ret sen and dimaga i guess we can end this conversation here 1. The discussion has been about people making incorrect statements on the internet by including words like "every." 2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga. 3. You still don't understand what I'm talking about.
weird since you have such a clear way of expressing yourself
2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga good we agree, calling out
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On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments.
That wasnt even close to funny the first time...the second time is even worse. Try a little harder next time.
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On August 08 2011 02:39 darlhet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. i dont get if this guy is trolling or he's serious :S still trying to figure out
Heh,I love Ret and I watched him a lot so believe me when is say that his style hasn't almost changed against P than what it was when he was not wining that much.The only thing different is his unit composition at times.
I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this,after he rolled over Naniwa but its true lol.
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On August 08 2011 02:41 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:39 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. i dont get if this guy is trolling or he's serious :S still trying to figure out I'm not sure if you're trolling or not about wondering if he's trolling or not.
i honestly think he's just clueless but the first post was written in a way it seemed trolling
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On August 08 2011 02:40 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true. Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer.
I think you are right.
IdrA lived 3 years in Korea = Korean
HuK lives in Korea = Korean
Sen, Taiwan is close to Korea = Korean
Naniwa is going to Korea = Korean
Thorzain is going to Korea = Korean
Ret has also been in Korea, but not for such a long time as IdrA. That means his Korean is rubbing off and he is becoming a Dutchie once again.
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Slightly off topic but I really liked this event. Great games, especially Nani vs. Thor was intense. Great play by Ret, he really surprised me... he was really in the zone today. Great casting by Rotti/Bitter, didn't think that they'll make such a good combo and also great production value overall. Looking forward to other invitationals!
On topic: I think Ret classifies as Korean and therefore can't be considered foreign Zerg bonjwa
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On August 08 2011 02:33 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:29 thirnaz wrote:On August 08 2011 02:28 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:26 Baituri wrote:On August 08 2011 02:24 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:22 Talin wrote:On August 08 2011 02:19 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:17 Talin wrote:On August 08 2011 02:16 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:
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How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? Yes placing second is really losing. Get a reality check mate Should Naniwa get a reality check too? He didn't look like the guy who just won. You make him sound like his the incarnation of some sun God. Maybe he is indeed to hard on himself? Actually Naniwa already thinks high of himself, he is just a bit sad he did not place first, but really, he is a winner and Im sure he knows this as well. What about MarineKing then? He seems to be taking it rather hard as well. Maybe you need to reconsider your stance on that. Yes, second place is a good ranking for an up and coming player, and such a player will be reasonably happy about placing second in a big tournament. And even that's not always the case, as we've seen with MMA in the super tournament. For people who want to and are expected to win trophies? No fucking way. Not even close. They feel awful, and it's normal that they do. In some ways it's the worst ranking they can get. yes then they need a reality check Just because you are not motivated in the thing you do and are happy with a 2nd place does not mean someone else needs a reality check. Some people just want to get the most out of themselves and be the best at something. Some people have ambition and will do anything to reach their goal. Please don't post such stupid things. Are you telling me that you are not motivated if you are happy with a second place, whilst aiming for first? Yes? If you aim for the top and fail you should be sad/mad. It has happened many times for naniwa these last 6 months so i understand him being sad after coming short at the finish line every time. Do people in hockey / football look happy when they loose the finals? Way to live life, be sad, be extremely hard on yourself if you do not do not place first. Boxer is a winner in my eyes, yet he has not placed first in SC2 yet. He is of course disappointed if he loses an important match, but there really is no need to beat yourself down for it.
Boxer doesn't really consider himself as a top contender to win titles in SC2, nor is he realistically one, and after MLG he could be happy because it was his peak performance. Here's Boxer after losing a finals in a game where he was a contender:
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I don't understand why would you even argue about this. I understand you as a fan can be happy if your player ranked 2nd or 4th or whatever, but saying that "there's no need to beat yourself down for it" when in fact almost everyone beats themselves down for it is nonsensical.
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On August 08 2011 02:41 darlhet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:40 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:34 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:31 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:27 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:24 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:20 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:18 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:11 MrSexington wrote:
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He's the one who brought up every MLG.
I think winning one is a notable performance.
4th place isn't something to sneeze at either, considering the top 3 were Koreans and this thread is talking about foreigners. not sure what to answer, so you think that to see how good a player is now we should look at all the results they had? that's nonsense currently players like dimaga and ret step it up winning in very hard competitions vs top players , if Idra does the same he can be considered again among the best no problem;) not saying he's bad by any means , just saying that right now he's not equal with other top zergs In this particular conversation I'm not even discussing "how good is IdrA?" I'm correcting an incorrect statement: Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.This statement simply isn't true. It's factually false. ye he had a top 4 two MLGs ago, gratz You're completely clueless, gratz. top 12 at anaheim? :S am i missing something as of late? In summary: darlhet: The world is flat! Me: Actually, the world is a sphere. darlhet: IdrA isn't nearly as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga! Me: I didn't say he was. darlhet: Am I missing something????? yep the discussion was about world's flatness and since you agree idra is currently a little bit behind ret sen and dimaga i guess we can end this conversation here 1. The discussion has been about people making incorrect statements by including words like "every" for no reason other than to talk trash. 2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga. 3. You still don't understand what I'm talking about. weird since you have such a clear way of expressing yourself 2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga good we agree, calling out
(He still doesn't get it.)
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On August 08 2011 02:42 Baituri wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:40 Beyonder wrote:On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true. Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer. I think you are right. IdrA lived 3 years in Korea = Korean HuK lives in Korea = Korean Sen, Taiwan is close to Korea = Korean Naniwa is going to Korea = Korean Thorzain is going to Korea = Korean Ret has also been in Korea, but not for such a long time as IdrA. That means his Korean is rubbing off and he is becoming a Dutchie once again.
Korean is like a virus, once you get it you become good at Starcraft
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On August 08 2011 02:40 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true. Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer (because huk is korean, idra is in a slump, sen is kind of korean, jinro has been korean forever, and naniwa and thorzain are moving to korea so they will be koreans soon too)
Two things:
1) Ret was in korea for a good while making hin a halfy (half korean-half something else)
2) Nani and Thorzain need to stay in korea for more than a month to be considered trully korean, I hope they do stay and practice but I don't think that will be the case.
Slightly off-topic:
- I really hope Thorzain gets to go to Blizzcon some other way
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On August 08 2011 02:43 MrSexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:41 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:40 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:34 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:31 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:27 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:24 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:20 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:18 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 darlhet wrote:
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not sure what to answer, so you think that to see how good a player is now we should look at all the results they had? that's nonsense currently players like dimaga and ret step it up winning in very hard competitions vs top players , if Idra does the same he can be considered again among the best no problem;) not saying he's bad by any means , just saying that right now he's not equal with other top zergs In this particular conversation I'm not even discussing "how good is IdrA?" I'm correcting an incorrect statement: Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.This statement simply isn't true. It's factually false. ye he had a top 4 two MLGs ago, gratz You're completely clueless, gratz. top 12 at anaheim? :S am i missing something as of late? In summary: darlhet: The world is flat! Me: Actually, the world is a sphere. darlhet: IdrA isn't nearly as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga! Me: I didn't say he was. darlhet: Am I missing something????? yep the discussion was about world's flatness and since you agree idra is currently a little bit behind ret sen and dimaga i guess we can end this conversation here 1. The discussion has been about people making incorrect statements by including words like "every" for no reason other than to talk trash. 2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga. 3. You still don't understand what I'm talking about. weird since you have such a clear way of expressing yourself 2. IdrA currently isn't as good as Ret, Sen, or Dimaga good we agree, calling out (He still doesn't get it.) (this guy keeps writing weird stuff while quoting me...creeepy...)
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On August 08 2011 02:40 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true. Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer (because huk is korean, idra is in a slump, sen is kind of korean, jinro has been korean forever, and naniwa and thorzain are moving to korea so they will be koreans soon too)
Ppl from reddit.com/r/starcraft will agree the best non korean zerg is Destiny and his infestor play:D
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"This topic is now about who is the best foreign zerg. Any discussion on the actual tournament is hereby off topic."
ahahahahaha :D
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Xlord, he had a great game against Mana on Shakuras once!
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On August 08 2011 02:41 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. That wasnt even close to funny the first time...the second time is even worse. Try a little harder next time.
well maybe not for you but my jaw is slowly starting to hurt after these responses;)
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On August 08 2011 02:44 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:42 Baituri wrote:On August 08 2011 02:40 Beyonder wrote:On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true. Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer. I think you are right. IdrA lived 3 years in Korea = Korean HuK lives in Korea = Korean Sen, Taiwan is close to Korea = Korean Naniwa is going to Korea = Korean Thorzain is going to Korea = Korean Ret has also been in Korea, but not for such a long time as IdrA. That means his Korean is rubbing off and he is becoming a Dutchie once again. Korean is like a virus, once you get it you become good at Starcraft
hahaha ye quite similar, i think its more appripriate to refer to "SCENES" more than nationality in SC, to avoid those discussions
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So Ret and Naniwa going to blizzcon or just Ret?
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On August 08 2011 02:44 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:42 Baituri wrote:On August 08 2011 02:40 Beyonder wrote:On August 08 2011 02:38 msjakofsky wrote:On August 08 2011 02:33 darthfoley wrote:On August 08 2011 01:54 mokuhazushi wrote:
Naniwa loses, the crowd chants his name, Naniwa smiles. Fucking awesome. i felt as though he was awkwardly surprised and embarressed to get so much positive attention after getting 2-0'd. Not a huge fan of naniwa but it was really nice to see imo yeah i like the guy. too bad ret's zvp is pretty bonjwa. nani needs some good eu zerg training partner to be a pvz bonjwa about the idra vs ret dispute, it's apples and oranges- idra's vT and vZ is more bonjwa while ret's vP is more bonjwa. but honestly, both of them are lesser players now than Huk, it seems you really need some korean training to bonjwa better in these tournaments. Actually, I think ret himself would disagree with you there, his zvp isnt actually that impressive. It might sound strange after these games, but normally he has a mental block on that match up. Naniwa kind of played bad :o Of course Ret played well, but what you said is not really true. Now, to remain on topic, he is of course the best non korean gamer. I think you are right. IdrA lived 3 years in Korea = Korean HuK lives in Korea = Korean Sen, Taiwan is close to Korea = Korean Naniwa is going to Korea = Korean Thorzain is going to Korea = Korean Ret has also been in Korea, but not for such a long time as IdrA. That means his Korean is rubbing off and he is becoming a Dutchie once again. Korean is like a virus, once you get it you become good at Starcraft
Also important; SeleCT = Korean, but lives in NA = Foreigner
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