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Nice event, really enjoyed it. I was so happy Carmac and Rotti were part of it and loved all the games I managed to see. It was so awesome and I really liked the music too lol.
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Hahah this thread. Adjusted public note, stop posting off topic please!!
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On August 08 2011 02:18 last.resistance wrote:
Does anyone have a full list of the LA invites? Even the Blizzcon site has only four listed.
Also, HuK is listed as US and Canada on his BLizzcon profile. <3
Who are the other 2?
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On August 08 2011 02:16 Whole wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. LOL Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? placing high? lol
Idra is 0-15 vs koreans in recent games and he is losing to all the top foreigners (Sen Huk Naniwa)
He's not even in competetion for top foreigner anymore and not even top foreigner zerg. He's never won a tournament with europeans or koreans in it.
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There are Asia invites? As in where they don't include korean inside the invites eh?
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On August 08 2011 02:17 TeWy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:05 TheKefka wrote:On August 08 2011 02:03 TeWy wrote:On August 08 2011 01:46 Bliznako wrote:On August 08 2011 01:43 sleepingdog wrote:We need more PvZ early all-ins to change the metagame. This is ridiculous  Exactly my thoughts... Unlike terrans, protoss players seem to have stopped doing the one base all ins or early pressure, allowing zergs to start with three bases (?), droning up to 60+ drones in the first few minutes. I totally cannot understand this trend. Ret was playing the same style few months ago and was blown away in Korea by early pàressure, always overdroning being his doom and now the same style reaps rewards. And please don't tell me how much he has improved - Ret has always been a macro beast, looks like his time has come. I can't make a 4 gate work against Zerg in Master league, so I've great doubts that it will ever work at this level. Protoss simply can't put pressure on the Zerg, and Zerg have figured out that these voidray/phoenixes harass were easily shut down by a few spore crawlers. So what can you do as Protoss ? Random timing pushes still occasionaly work though. Sad thing is that they it relies entirely on Zerg mistakes. Btw with the exception of MLG (dominated by Korean Terrans), every recent tournaments have been won by Zerg: GSL code S, WCG China, Assembly, now blizzcon, and btw one of the finalist of the current GO4SC2 is a Zerg as well (second might also be Zerg). And the most depressing is that you can't blame the infestors for that... It's more due to the fact that Zerg players learned how to use their lategame units and repell the timing pushes... That's what I have been saying for months now,only difference is I think the lack of 1 base play for P against zerg comes from the warpgate nerf(4 gate) which was the only real 1 base play you could do against zerg  Now we have....umm well.....cannons i guess. I would much rather have a macro spell which matches inject larvae in a macro game rather than being able to pull out gimmicky 1 base blind all-in.
That was not my point.It was the fear of a possible 1 base allin that kept zergs from mass expanding and droning.
Much like they don't go for 3 hatches in ZvT in the first 3 minutes because they fear the 2 barracks and bunker rushes,hellions,etc.
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On August 08 2011 02:18 disco wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:17 sekritzzz wrote:
American idra fanboys are delusional. They even think destiny and spanishiwa are top contenders for the Zerg race. I'm not surprised though, American GM is like diamond EU and gold KR. QFT. + Show Spoiler +
Im from EU and IdrA Fanboy and delusional.
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On August 08 2011 02:17 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:16 crappen wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. LOL Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? Yes placing second is really losing. Get a reality check mate Should Naniwa get a reality check too? He didn't look like the guy who just won.
You make him sound like his the incarnation of some sun God. Maybe he is indeed to hard on himself? Actually Naniwa already thinks high of himself, he is just a bit sad he did not place first, but really, he is a winner and Im sure he knows this as well.
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On August 08 2011 02:18 frozenrb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:18 astor wrote:
poor narchio didint do too well so he might be stressed on intel's extreme masters :/ He don't have much experience on events like this
This was his very first LAN tournament. So not really suprising. I think you can call it a succesfull event for him. You beat White-Ra on your first LAN. I would be pretty excited if I were him.
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I meant for the LA invitational to determine who goes to Blizzcon.
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Why are we bringing IdrA in to this discussion anyway? This is an LR thread and Ret won and definately in that form deserved it. Liquid'Ret and his awesomeness is all that matters right now.
And yes, this is coming from an IdrA fan.
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On August 08 2011 02:18 MrSexington wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:15 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:11 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:09 darlhet wrote:On August 08 2011 02:08 MrSexington wrote:On August 08 2011 02:06 sickoota wrote:On August 08 2011 02:05 soulist wrote:On August 08 2011 02:02 sickoota wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. Sen is pretty good, but not particularly consistent, only really did well at NASL after a long long run of unsuccessful tournaments. The only thing Idra is consistent at is mediocrity, he has been going to alot of tournaments lately and never breaking top 3 in any of them. He's been to a lot of tournaments???? WHAT. All he does is MLG and IPL. What tournaments does he go to??????? Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them. He won MLG DC and got 4th at MLG Columbus. DC was quite a bit ago cmon, ret won assembly last winter but that doesnt tell us about his shape now? He's the one who brought up every MLG. I think winning one is a notable performance. 4th place isn't something to sneeze at either, considering the top 3 were Koreans and this thread is talking about foreigners. not sure what to answer, so you think that to see how good a player is now we should look at all the results they had? that's nonsense currently players like dimaga and ret step it up winning in very hard competitions vs top players , if Idra does the same he can be considered again among the best no problem;) not saying he's bad by any means , just saying that right now he's not equal with other top zergs In this particular conversation I'm not even discussing "how good is IdrA?" I'm correcting an incorrect statement: Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.This statement simply isn't true. It's factually false. ye he had a top 4 two MLGs ago, gratz
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Everyone thinks that poland sux. Glad to see such awesome event 
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Very touching end with Carmac crying
I just want to say that this has been a SUPERB event and everyone appearing on the Scene has done a SUPEB job. That goes for Rotterdam and MrBitters casting that was FLAWLESS aswell. Rotterdam is such a great caster and I only wish I could get more of him.
Im going to say it again, this is one of the best event Ive watched. It means so much to me when I see players I like play in a tournament. Instead of inviting Koreans for all the top spots MLG should watch this and learn.
THANK YOU GUYS.
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On August 08 2011 02:18 disco wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:17 sekritzzz wrote:
American idra fanboys are delusional. They even think destiny and spanishiwa are top contenders for the Zerg race. I'm not surprised though, American GM is like diamond EU and gold KR. QFT. + Show Spoiler +
So people that like either IdrA, spanishiwa or Destiny are all american? Damn i guess Sweden is US now since I like IdrA's play :S
People messure skill in different ways, some think #1 is the only thing that makes a player good whilst some see the entire picture of things
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I for one think the event was awesome. Glad Ret took the win but I loved all the players and I wish them all a great win in the nearby future.
Hope I won't get warned for going off-topic here.
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On August 08 2011 02:20 Iyerbeth wrote:
Why are we bringing IdrA in to this discussion anyway? This is an LR thread and Ret won and definately in that form deserved it. Liquid'Ret and his awesomeness is all that matters right now.
And yes, this is coming from an IdrA fan.
Cause someone wins a tournement and hes clearly the best foreigner and we need to compair with the rest!
Off topic: Awesome event to watch
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On August 08 2011 02:20 Iyerbeth wrote:
Why are we bringing IdrA in to this discussion anyway? This is an LR thread and Ret won and definately in that form deserved it. Liquid'Ret and his awesomeness is all that matters right now.
And yes, this is coming from an IdrA fan.
IdrA is like air in every thread..xD
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On August 08 2011 02:19 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 02:16 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:15 zeru wrote:On August 08 2011 02:14 Whole wrote:On August 08 2011 02:12 hifriend wrote:On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret. LOL Wtf has idra won.. ever? I mean yeah he won an early MLG (before koreans and europeans even attended) and that all american 16 player invite tournament.. but that's it. Winning this and assembly makes ret a bigger player in terms of accomplishment, but he's also a whole lot better just looking at performance right now. is winning really the only significant thing? How else are you gonna measure success? Losing? placing high? lol Idra is 0-15 vs koreans in recent games and he is losing to all the top foreigners (Sen Huk Naniwa) He's not even in competetion for top foreigner anymore and not even top foreigner zerg. He's never won a tournament with europeans or koreans in it.
OgsMC was about 10 of them. And Idra's ZvP was terrible back then so eh to be expected
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So proud of my polish background, truly amazing.
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