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Try to keep it positive in the thread please. And stop hating on other games! Respect and show everyone how awesome TL is :D
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6341
On August 07 2011 04:32 Nastiness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 04:31 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:30 Denzil wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:28 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:26 Fig wrote:
finally a zerg uses burrow micro, gonna be so scary when they start doing it one by one like blink


Except that unlike Blink it can be completely neutralised by the presence of detection. Opportunities to use burrow micro to it's fullest are few and far between.


Ret didn't use burrow micro in the sense you want to think he did. He just used it to wait for force fields.

The problem with Burrow is that when you burrow you can take damage during the animation. With Blink you take 0 damage during the animation.

Burrow will never be Blink.

To be fair Roaches are dirt cheap.


Mmm speed/burrow upgrade included?


Speed and Burrow are cheap also

It was just a loss due to no detection
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6342
oh god I think Naniwa is about to break down.

This is cruel to interview him.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6343
On August 07 2011 04:32 Nastiness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 04:31 Sabu113 wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:30 Denzil wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:28 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:26 Fig wrote:
finally a zerg uses burrow micro, gonna be so scary when they start doing it one by one like blink


Except that unlike Blink it can be completely neutralised by the presence of detection. Opportunities to use burrow micro to it's fullest are few and far between.


Ret didn't use burrow micro in the sense you want to think he did. He just used it to wait for force fields.

The problem with Burrow is that when you burrow you can take damage during the animation. With Blink you take 0 damage during the animation.

Burrow will never be Blink.

To be fair Roaches are dirt cheap.


Mmm speed/burrow upgrade included?


That doesn't make any difference if they're dirt cheap. They take damage during the animation, Stalkers don't. It renders the burrow micro we'd like to have pretty useless unless they just don't have detection.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6344
On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:
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On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?


because why not?


Because there's a reason why this doesn't happen in other sports/events?
BBV
Profile Joined January 2010
213 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6345
naniwa is an idiot, before the game started he wrote "hehe" in the ingame chat after he found out that close position is possible(rotterdam mentioned it). Now after he lost he whines. Pretty lame imo.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6346
On August 07 2011 04:29 Integra wrote:
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On August 07 2011 04:26 zeru wrote:
Seems like close positions is balanced after all. No more zerg whine thx.

Real problem is that close position always turn out to be rush games, as in they only last around 10 minutes, it's boring to watch and to play.


Exactly. The actual problem is that if you're organizing a tournament like this and you add close positions into the mappool, then there really is just no words to say. Either Blizzard really wants to get the message "Look people, close positions games aren't that bad.", the "that bad" part being a quick rush/all-in, which almost always results in uninteresting play, or are they are really clueless and don't know that there are versions of ST without close positions.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6347
On August 07 2011 04:33 windsupernova wrote:
Is Nani out?



He goes to lower bracket, can still make it to the finals if he beats nerchio, and loser of Thorzain v. Ret
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6348
Yeah Nani fucked up on g3, had nothing to do with close pos.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6349
On August 07 2011 04:32 FairForever wrote:
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On August 07 2011 04:31 CScythe wrote:
Naniwa even complained about close pos being the main problem for him in game 3. And you guys are saying "it's balanced now"...seriously?


Not balanced, but this is Blizz's tourney. Naniwa knew coming in that close pos was a possibility. If he didn't like it he doesn't have to play (eg. NASL).


Who even cares if it's balanced or not, it just makes shitty game like the one we just saw, loses his first sentries and he's in deep shit game is over within 10 minutes.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6350
Whenever nani is interviewed after a loss, i can't do anything but feel really sad. He somehow is always SO involved. If he loses he seems so destroyed. Its so engaging.
cheggelund
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway131 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6351
Nani is not out, losers bracket
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6352
On August 07 2011 04:32 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
close positions is bullshit for any race


Could we maybe agree on this and move on?
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6353
Ret's still chewing that gum during the interview! How disrespectful. jk :o).
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6354
also team liquid why isnt ret wearing his team jersey
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6355
On August 07 2011 04:33 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?


because why not?


Because there's a reason why this doesn't happen in other sports/events?


It happens all the time?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6356
please let me translate this - Carmac SO CUTE
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6357
--- Nuked ---
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6358
On August 07 2011 04:32 grobo wrote:
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On August 07 2011 04:31 Ygz wrote:
Nani got outplayed on g3. While I agree it's a shit map, don't bring up that excuse for losing.


He donated ~10 sentries, he fucked himself, he wasn't outplayed the slightest.

yeah seems like a lot of people don't appreciate exactly how bad losing about 8 sentries in exchange for a ling or two early game is
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6359
On August 07 2011 04:31 disco wrote:
A protoss crying about close pos? What is this.

Why shouldn't he? Close positions are retarded no matter what race you play. And since everybody knows that (except Blizzard), no one practices close pos and it just becomes a coin-toss when you have it in a tournament.
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
August 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#6360
On August 07 2011 04:31 Kh0nsu wrote:
Aww Naniwa... Please don't interview the losers, especially when they are as hard on themselves as Nani.


Where is this coming from? Since when can't you interview the loser? in other sports the loser team always gives interviews, why not here? I understand the players are pissed but they have to be professional.
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