EPTMLG Anaheim Day 2 RED Live Report Thread - Page 141
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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned. | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
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TooN
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:18 Ertu wrote: Thanx FXO for bringing this guy over to provide entertaining games. -_- I hate this guy so much,I hope the fans at MLG treat him like they should. Ase re, ti mou les. Den itan cheese... eleos.... Guy goes FE what 1 gate dts? and you guys are all slagging on him. Jinro has a problem with his early game, and choya does a harass and Jinro GG's out. And some how one of the nicest people in the world is to blame.... Ante... | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:19 Xivsa wrote: It would have been cheese if Choya somehow pulled his probes with the attack or something. If the DTs failed utterly, he could have tried to get a wall or at least a few cannons at his natural and build up more zealots/stalkers before transitioning into whatever. Going fast DTs and attacking with them is not cheese - it's just a form of pressure. If DTs failed choya would be dead with zero chance of recovery. Going fast 3 DTs is absolutely cheese. There is a DT expand build that's somewhat stable - but this isn't anywhere close to that. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
But it was Choya already had his nexus built. | ||
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Triscuit
United States722 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:17 FairForever wrote: Not sure that a scan would've been enough in game 3... Choya just has to split DTs and Jinro is still screwed. Really needed an engineering bay there. Guess hindsight is always great but if you're in his shoes with no idea what's going on, a lot tougher call. If he had scanned the DT's as they were coming up his lower ramp he could have killed them. Granted that would take pretty amazing reaction time but still. | ||
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RaE21
United States260 Posts
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:19 Zorgaz wrote: Yeah, but Toss still has the dirty units. DT's and Voidrays so dirty imo xd >  If it doesn't come from a Gateway or Robo it's cheese, duh. | ||
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GreatHate
United States73 Posts
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
isnt that the second time you said that to him? i love how much hate choya is getting and how everyone is still worshipping jinro you scout 2 gas early on, no more gateways or an expo, and he just expands with no more scouting and no detection at all..... from that, choya deserved the win imo | ||
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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:20 JoeSchmoe wrote: actually DT expand is super standard in korea. huk/mc does it all the time Sarcasm yo. | ||
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FeastOfThePoops
149 Posts
I doubt he ever started. | ||
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Joe12
183 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:17 NexUmbra wrote: Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise. In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted. DT openings are not "highly unconventional" and they are only hard to defend against if you become too mule greedy which was exactly the case here. DTs are no more chesse than a terran opening cloaked banshees... | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:17 Talin wrote: Gosh, you can always save up 400 minerals and expand, it doesn't mean anything. It was absolutely cheese, when you warp in 3 DTs it's completely all in. There was no way choya could have protected his "expansion", it was just part of the deception. It's a usual DT-expand.... And the DTs give you time, there is no way you get attacked when they are out. And even if you can just make Archons. It is in no way an all-in. | ||
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:20 Ryuu2 wrote: Choya did a 1gate expand DIRECTLY into dt's, he had like 2 units if jinro had used ANY kind of pressure choya wouldve just died. Choya took a huuuge risk and it paid of. but that had nothing to do with skill O.O lol you assume choya would not react if he scouted jinro trying to pressure. These are pros they know what the possibilities are. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On July 31 2011 05:20 Triscuit wrote: If he had scanned the DT's as they were coming up his lower ramp he could have killed them. Granted that would take pretty amazing reaction time but still. he just made a mule and would have to wait until he got 50 energy again...and by then he had 1 DT for both bases and 1 for the army. | ||
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