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On July 25 2011 20:17 GenesisX wrote: Nestea vs Losira would be a sick series. Idc if its ZvZ, you can't deny how good these two players are and how good the games will be. What are you smoking, Nestea is on a whole other level ZvZ (whole other level overall). Losira will be destroyed.
Big roach battles, so fun right?
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TvZ is fun to watch but it seems like the same 3 units every game, At least ZvP almost every unit is used.
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Ravens shuld spawn with more energy and the build time must be decreased. Also the raven should be able to sprint, which costs energy. This would make it an exciting unit.
Anyway, Losira was really smart coming in from that angle. If he had attacked head on things would have looked a lot different. Also the baneling mines in mid battle are beautiful.
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On July 25 2011 20:14 zeru wrote: Depressing to watch... can't believe we are gonna have another terrible finals :/
ZvZ doesn't make it "terrible" by default. Nestea and Losira should make it amazing by default
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On July 25 2011 20:19 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote: Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.
But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this. thats how you play tvz..where you been for the past year?
Yea, I agree, even though I dont main Zerg When maxed, just trade armies, grind down the oppo, and remax
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On July 25 2011 20:16 ribboo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:15 OrchidThief wrote:On July 25 2011 20:13 ribboo wrote:On July 25 2011 20:12 DoubleB wrote: Why didn't byun not build a raven ? =( sniping a raven with all those mutas wouldve been so easy anyway This post is mindnumbing. Think about it. ive thought about it, still dont get it.
It's a double negative followed by, what would then, be a completely nonsensical follow up. =b
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On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote: Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.
But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this.
LosirA said in an interview that he likes zerg because it doesn't take much micro, and that's how he plays
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On July 25 2011 20:18 Phats wrote: And people say Losira is bad at ZvT lols.. those banelings in his base were wicked good!
A ZvZ final would be better than nestea v byun if losira is killing byun this badly...
Um, he is clearly very sloppy at ZvT. Being able to hit a hotkey to burrow banelings does not make you good at a matchup.
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If Byun was smart, he'd construct 10-20% of a bunker with the uninjured SCV then stop and construct the other bunker to fully wall LosirA in before the creep stopped him. Then use the SCVs he bought up to finish the first bunker. Take out the hatch the send the SCVs home and throw down a command centre and continue rallying marines. it's a GSL map, not Blizzard, so you probably can't block the ramp
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What was the song going into the break?
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On July 25 2011 20:16 zocktol wrote: It's funny, how Tasteosis say, that Losira got ahead in the early game, by getting bunker rushed and killing 5 scvs.
I'm asking my self, how will Zerg be put behind in the early game ^.^ If Losira actually ended up losing drones and didn't kill all those marines/scvs cost effectively then he'd be behind. But those scvs were all not mining for a LONG time and then they all got killed anyway which is the cost of a hatchery except even more so since in the early game each worker is worth more than just 50 minerals.
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On July 25 2011 20:18 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote: Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.
But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this. Oftentimes, it's what you DON'T see that makes somebody great.
Losira has always been a little sloppy, as far as I remember, but what he lacks in micro he makes up with macro.
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On July 25 2011 20:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:14 zeru wrote: Depressing to watch... can't believe we are gonna have another terrible finals :/ ZvZ doesn't make it "terrible" by default. Nestea and Losira should make it amazing by default
I hope your right,but I really doubt it
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On July 25 2011 20:17 GuardianEU wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:15 NExt wrote:On July 25 2011 20:14 damod wrote:On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote: Why don't Terrans make ravens? Mutas o_O ? are you SeRiouS ? You know PDD blocks mutas right ? are you serious? PDD wont block 20+ mutas for more than 1 or 2 volleys... volleys which come really fast. as well as being a really slow moving unit. I'd trade a raven anytime if his mutas will be over my marines for 2 volleys.
Add to that maybe a HSM, it could be fun.
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On July 25 2011 20:18 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +Do you really think this many top level terrans are just too clueless to use ravens tvz did you watch qxc vs IMhorror?
Read again please. He said "top level terrans" 
Btw what a sick attack by losira and sick control by burrowing banes, controlling his army! Reminds me of SavioR
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On July 25 2011 20:18 TheRPGAddict wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote: Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.
But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this. I agree with this and I share the same sentiment towards Losira, he seems to just chuck some units away here and there. Makes the difference between say he and someone like Nestea.
And it's the reason why I don't want ZvZ finals with him and Nestea. ZvZ may underrated, but Losira gonna get crushed.
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Losira is smart and fast . he just doesn't engage cost efficiently .
But look at that last game with nestea vs hongun when Nestea threw like 25 banelings into 3 archons...
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On July 25 2011 20:17 GuardianEU wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:15 NExt wrote:On July 25 2011 20:14 damod wrote:On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote: Why don't Terrans make ravens? Mutas o_O ? are you SeRiouS ? You know PDD blocks mutas right ? are you serious? PDD wont block 20+ mutas for more than 1 or 2 volleys... volleys which come really fast. as well as being a really slow moving unit. I'd trade a raven anytime if his mutas will be over my marines for 2 volleys.
ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO MOVE YOUR MARINES WITH A RAVEN NEXT TO IT? GOD Why do people talk about this game on forums without even thinking about what they post.
Ok you move your Marines with a slow flying unit THE RAVEN and you know what I'll do... I'll fly around you and kill everything else.
The best Terrans in the world playing this full time don't think about the "Raven" to beat baneling landmines. OK. You win bro I get it.
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On July 25 2011 20:18 Azzur wrote: Byun should've built a 2nd bunker at losira's ramp to prevent the run-by
Yeah, I tend to do that all the time against Zergs, it can really help, as it's very very very hard to break out of.
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