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VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2261
On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.

But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this.

Oftentimes, it's what you DON'T see that makes somebody great.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2262
Blueflame would be beneficial against Losiras style. So mix them up with the tanks!
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2263
On July 25 2011 20:17 GuardianEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:15 NExt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:14 damod wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote:
Why don't Terrans make ravens?


Mutas

o_O ? are you SeRiouS ? You know PDD blocks mutas right ?


are you serious? PDD wont block 20+ mutas for more than 1 or 2 volleys... volleys which come really fast. as well as being a really slow moving unit.



I'd trade a raven anytime if his mutas will be over my marines for 2 volleys.

if he saw qxc game, he wouldn't be saying that. pdd owns mutas
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2264
On July 25 2011 20:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:14 damod wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote:
Why don't Terrans make ravens?


Mutas

o_O ? are you SeRiouS ? You know PDD blocks mutas right ?


Have you actually eVeR bothered to try in tvz? Mutas can either fire less than one volley from flock to eliminate pdd/kill raven or simple not attack by the immobile pdd. Do you really think this many top level terrans are just too clueless to use ravens tvz, or do you think it's cause they aren't worth it?


Well terrans use like 6 scans a game on banelings which is like a grand in minerals, you gotta figure its useful at some point in time right? Even if you have to make more than one?
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2265
what's so bad about zvz?
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:19:24
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2266
On July 25 2011 20:16 Malinor wrote:
All those baneling landmines in the middle of the big fights, that's just genius. This will catch on for sure and terrans will be forced to have a Raven at all times.


The problem with a Raven in the scenario Byun was in was that the first thing you do is stim and run your marines back to deal with it asap and they outpace your Raven so fast that you're playing "blind" very quickly again. If you wait on the Raven your opponent gets more free damage at the location they're attacking.

I do agree a Raven with the main army is something that looks very likely to have to be implemented though, if Z continue to use burrow so effectively it's just going to become seriously cost ineffecient to not get one.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
July 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#2267
On July 25 2011 20:16 zocktol wrote:
It's funny, how Tasteosis say, that Losira got ahead in the early game, by getting bunker rushed and killing 5 scvs.

I'm asking my self, how will Zerg be put behind in the early game ^.^


If Byun was smart, he'd construct 10-20% of a bunker with the uninjured SCV then stop and construct the other bunker to fully wall LosirA in before the creep stopped him. Then use the SCVs he bought up to finish the first bunker. Take out the hatch the send the SCVs home and throw down a command centre and continue rallying marines.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2268
On July 25 2011 20:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:14 damod wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote:
Why don't Terrans make ravens?


Mutas

o_O ? are you SeRiouS ? You know PDD blocks mutas right ?


Have you actually eVeR bothered to try in tvz? Mutas can either fire less than one volley from flock to eliminate pdd/kill raven or simple not attack by the immobile pdd. Do you really think this many top level terrans are just too clueless to use ravens tvz, or do you think it's cause they aren't worth it?

So you make it a habit to keep your Ravens alone? You don't think that all of Byun's Thors and marines could have killed all his mutas in the 1/2 shots the mutas needed to be directly over Byun's entire army? I'd trade a raven for 20+ mutas.
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2269
On July 25 2011 20:16 Shalaiyn wrote:
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On July 25 2011 20:15 OrchidThief wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 ribboo wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:12 DoubleB wrote:
Why didn't byun not build a raven ? =(

sniping a raven with all those mutas wouldve been so easy anyway


This post is mindnumbing. Think about it.


You realise there were enough mutas to one shot a PDD and still one shot the raven within 1 muta cooldown for the longest time, right?


Who has ravens out alone? Fly it over marines and thors and voila. Safe raven and (mostly) safe from baneling landmines.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2270
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2271
On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.

But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this.

No, he's not sloppy because he knows he can trade when up in economy and banking more minerals.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2272
On July 25 2011 20:16 zocktol wrote:
It's funny, how Tasteosis say, that Losira got ahead in the early game, by getting bunker rushed and killing 5 scvs.

I'm asking my self, how will Zerg be put behind in the early game ^.^

Losira had more drones and supply than Byun after killing those SCVs. Also he had Zergling speed. Byun also had nothing but the two raxes.
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TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2273
Damn these guys are good, hongun looks like code E compared to any of these 3.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2274
On July 25 2011 20:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:14 damod wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote:
Why don't Terrans make ravens?


Mutas

o_O ? are you SeRiouS ? You know PDD blocks mutas right ?


Have you actually eVeR bothered to try in tvz? Mutas can either fire less than one volley from flock to eliminate pdd/kill raven or simple not attack by the immobile pdd. Do you really think this many top level terrans are just too clueless to use ravens tvz, or do you think it's cause they aren't worth it?


You can't really say they aren't worth it, there's a lot of unexplored tactics that were listed as worthless before but now they are getting more and more popular.
Just cuz something isn't used that much doesn't mean it isn't potentially good.
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2275
People saying about ravens Vs Mutas. I know HSM's suck, but against a zerg just A-Moving Muta's a HSM could really screw your day up. They stack up when moving, If nothing the HSM would cause them to disperse.
戦いの中に答えはある
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2276
LosirA isn't getting enough love in this thread.
How long was it since a zerg other than Nestea did so well in the GSL ?

I'm such a LosirA fan !! Gogogo !!!
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2277
On July 25 2011 20:13 NExt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:13 Kinch wrote:
Why don't Terrans make ravens?


Mutas


So they're fine letting burrowed crap blow up marines and stop expansions? There's a risk, sure, but shouldn't there be marines near a raven? It's not a free kill. Meh.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2278
The question is... will Byun manage to do something about terrans always losing in the finals of GSL?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2279
On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.

But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this.


thats how you play tvz..where you been for the past year?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
July 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#2280
On July 25 2011 20:17 Dubpace wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks Losira's play is the epitome of sloppy? I mean I love Losira, I'm a long time fan...before he was even GSL.

But seriously, his play looks like a 5 year old kid boxing all of his units and throwing them into the terran. And yet he's winning...O.o I have something to learn from this.

He's throwing away units coz he can afford to and needs to because he's maxed his army.
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