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Yep. It's not surprising that after so much travel, fan meetings, money won that MC is "slumping". (and for MC, a slump is very relative). Just it's hard to focus on the game after all this.
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Yep. It's not surprising that after so much travel, fan meetings, money won that MC is "slumping". (and for MC, a slump is very relative). Just it's hard to focus on the game after all this. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On July 20 2011 02:05 vnlegend wrote: Alright, go ahead and watch the Code A matches from January and we'll see who's the retarded one. Code S players are overall supreme. The mix consists of champions and consistent contenders. The same cannot be said about Code A, especially in the early days. --- Back on topic, TOP alone is clearly better than Bomber. TOP easily won vs Nestea while Bomber was destroyed. SC took DongRaeGu, arguably the best ZvT'er, to 4-3 matches, Bomber lost to Moon... Bomber's TvZ is really not that good and has no significant results to show for it. I don't see how code S games -- nestea vs inca? -- are supreme .. but I guess we'll disagree on that. When half of your hyped most popular players in code S end up in code A for the next season, you know code S/A players belong in the same pool. | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=228571 Essentially it shows that those who make it from code A to code S are on average doing better than those already in code S, and those who are demoted from code S to code A are on average doing worse than those already in code A. However, players stably in code S are on average doing better than players stably in code A. In other words, code S > code A (as you'd expect), but due to the slow rate of promotion/demotion the top of code A is considerably better than the bottom of code S. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
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Chicane
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Clog
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Deleted User 3420
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On July 19 2011 21:15 EntropyFails wrote: My favorite part of this thread are the parts about how the same people who predicted that HongUn would be crushed by MC are now predicting that Nestea will crush HongUn. The guy has natural skill and trains hard. If he didn't have an injury, I think he would be a top contender for a long time. pvz is not pvp. I think nestea will annihilate HongUn | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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akaname
United Kingdom599 Posts
On July 20 2011 02:00 Horse...falcon wrote: There were no warpgates in SC1, 4 gate didn't exist haha sorry that wasn't my point. my point was, in SC1 there was the shield battery. I never used that so i don't know how effective it is, but it seems to me that when applied to SC2's 4gate issue, it would support the player who was defending and give them some sort of aid. this would make the 4gate less viable. dunno if it would fix it, or leave protoss imba in other ways, it was just an idea. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On July 20 2011 02:57 akaname wrote: haha sorry that wasn't my point. my point was, in SC1 there was the shield battery. I never used that so i don't know how effective it is, but it seems to me that when applied to SC2's 4gate issue, it would support the player who was defending and give them some sort of aid. this would make the 4gate less viable. dunno if it would fix it, or leave protoss imba in other ways, it was just an idea. 4gate does exist in SC1, only on certain maps though, it is drastically less effective(well duh, you have to rally units from your main to the other) and reavers destroy it. | ||
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
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YoungNeil
Canada328 Posts
On July 20 2011 02:57 Ribbon wrote: The more I think about it, the more I think MC lost because he was practicing vHongUn instead of vP. The reason HongUn is so bad historically PvP is that he never 4gated. I think MC actually wasn't expecting him to. No, I think it's safe to say that MC lost because he was overconfident. MC knows how to 4gate and how to defend a 4gate, but he seemed not to be taking HongUn seriously. Immediately after his first win, he went into a build that wasn't safe against 4gate despite the fact that HongUn had already won twice with that build. And then he didn't try to snipe the probe proactively, even though he was nearly able to do it by accident. In the first two games as well, he seemed to not be bothering with things like keeping track of probes, proxy pylons, and his opponent's army. He seemed to just assume that he could prevail in the micro battle and take the game. MC said that he wasn't taking the Ro8 seriously, and that's sure what it looked like. We've seen this in the past, and it's always very disappointing to see such a good player lose because he didn't respect his opponent enough. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On July 20 2011 02:34 whatthefat wrote:In other words, code S > code A (as you'd expect), but due to the slow rate of promotion/demotion the top of code A is considerably better than the bottom of code S. This. Both the stats point towards it (as you said) but it is even visible. Code A winners invariable become one of top players in their races. No one has won Code A and not found some success. A shame we couldn't see MC vs Prof Tea, but Hong un outplayed him, so good job on his part. I still think we are in store for a great finals (I HOPE). | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On July 20 2011 00:40 Shellshock1122 wrote: If MC is the only player that can stop Nestea, how come Nestea hasn't won more GSLs? Anyone is prone to upsets, as we saw today. Losira knows Nestea's ZvZ. Bomber is pretty solid and ZvT is technically Nestea's worst matchup. I know beating Nestea in a bo7 is probably one of the most daunting challenges there is, it's not impossible. For all we know, HongUn might just be that guy that fate decided needs to be in the finals. We are being trolled by GSL fate. LOL You guys thought we would have a MC, Nestea, Bomber, Losira final 4 with a guarantee of an amazing finals? PWNEEEDDDD HongUnPrime going to the finals to lose 4-2/1/0 to whoever comes from the other side in typical GSL fashion!!! Seriously not hoping for this just saying that this is what tends to happen in gsl for some reason Nestea has stated in interviews that the only player he fears is mvp. Such a shame he went out early. Nestea can be beat, upsets happen. But I don't see it happening easily since nestea doesn't fear anybody left. His confidence will be through the roof. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 20 2011 02:03 AsnSensation wrote: guess who the old generation starcraft players are playing against on thursday in gstl :D Wow really? Starting with MC? That's interesting. I wonder if they will send Polt out second if MC wins the first one. | ||
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