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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 19 2011 16:38 GMT
#2701
Hungun had a 0% winrate versus Protoss? Versus the player with the best PvP record?

/confused

No surprise about Nestea though.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 19 2011 16:38 GMT
#2702
On July 20 2011 01:36 illsick wrote:
robbed of a Nestea vs MC match ):

I hope HongUn wins the whole thing now



You never know,

I can't really imagine there were much people who expected Polt to win last GSL over MMA.
Primes been holding strong.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 16:39:51
July 19 2011 16:39 GMT
#2703
HONGUN THE BOSSS PRIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

hongun is awesome against zergs, hope he beats nestea :DDDDD
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 16:42:47
July 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#2704
- Your thoughts on making the round of 8?
I have repeated victories then getting out early and now, I am in the round of 8 again. Since my opponent will be HongUn who is protoss, I will be able to prepare without much worry. My semifinal opponent will be a zerg. A lot of protosses are having a tough time against zerg opponents recently, so I will show them how it is done. My mind is already at the semi-finals.

Should have let your mind be on your quarter final, just a little.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
July 19 2011 16:48 GMT
#2705
On July 20 2011 00:57 novabossa wrote:
HongUn sniping dem oGs

[image loading]


LOOOOOOOOOOL WOOOOW
OGS SNIPE
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 16:50:27
July 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#2706
On July 20 2011 01:34 vnlegend wrote:
LOTS of Terrans have better TvZ than Bomber. Bomber's record is inflated as this is only his 2nd season in code S. Bomber spent a large part of his record playing vs Code A or weaker. I'd say MVP, MKP, MMA, sC, TOP, Puma, and probably a few more are better than Bomber at TvZ.

LOTS? What are you smoking? :D Only MMA contests imo. And Nada maybe on his good days.
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 19 2011 16:50 GMT
#2707
On July 20 2011 01:42 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Your thoughts on making the round of 8?
I have repeated victories then getting out early and now, I am in the round of 8 again. Since my opponent will be HongUn who is protoss, I will be able to prepare without much worry. My semifinal opponent will be a zerg. A lot of protosses are having a tough time against zerg opponents recently, so I will show them how it is done. My mind is already at the semi-finals.

Should have let your mind be on your quarter final, just a little.

Was too busy counting all his money...
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 16:54:03
July 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#2708
I think that nobody here are sayng that Hungon don't deserve that win or that he play bad or cheese and win.

I think that Hungun play really well. He did what he had to do, and did it well. He's one of the best guy in the SC2 scene, really manner and show great build with P also in the black 4gate vs all race era. (now seem that 4gate is still a build for PvP only)

That said, MC was clearly out of his mind today... he played like a diamond P, made simple poor strategic decision.... and we all know how he can play instead.

If he played at his 80% of his skill he still won that series 3-1 or 3-0 i think.
I'm sayng that i Hongun is not good and don't deserve that win? NO.

I'm just sayng that Hongun deserve the win, play ok (doing nothing special really other than what every Code S protoss must be able to do) but clearly today he play vs a mentally absent player... almost shocked by his first loss.. with his mind already in the Semifinals (in his dream we can say now).

I hope MC learn to respect all his opponent and never be overconfident again vs everyone... almost half his loss are due to bad mind approach to the game... you know... 1 gate expand on xel naga tower when he scout a 2 rax push incoming or something like this...

When he'll be able to handle that, he'll surely don't lose to hongun anymore. ;-)

Sorry for bad english, try to explain that sayng that today MC play like a chobo doesn't mean the we have no respect for Hongun, and i hope that we'll still have a great series in the RO4.

P.s.: I'm an MC fan but i think that Suicide Protoss would be his best nickname. ;-)
MMA | MC | Dear
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
July 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#2709
so (P)MC have (Z)Lost to (P)HuK, (P)NaNiwa, (P)Alicia and now (P)HongUn in the last month or so

he's slumping in his PvP
Put quote here for readability
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
July 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#2710
On July 20 2011 01:38 nvs. wrote:
Hungun had a 0% winrate versus Protoss? Versus the player with the best PvP record?

/confused

No surprise about Nestea though.


That's SC2 for ya.. when it comes to it, there is not much difference at the top, unlike SC1.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12803 Posts
July 19 2011 16:56 GMT
#2711
On July 20 2011 01:50 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 01:34 vnlegend wrote:
LOTS of Terrans have better TvZ than Bomber. Bomber's record is inflated as this is only his 2nd season in code S. Bomber spent a large part of his record playing vs Code A or weaker. I'd say MVP, MKP, MMA, sC, TOP, Puma, and probably a few more are better than Bomber at TvZ.

LOTS? What are you smoking? :D Only MMA contests imo. And Nada maybe on his good days.

How can you say that?
Bomber lost pretty much every series in TvZ : 0-2 NesTea, 1-2 Moon (lolwut?) and his other games are old results in online cups and Zotac teamleagues...
His only recent wins are bo1 against Line, Kyrix and CoCa, nothing enough to claim he has a "good tvz".
Mvp, MKP, MMA and sC (and even TOP for that matter since he beat NesTea easily whereas Bomber couldn't) have better TvZ. Even DongRaeGu said it about the 3 "M" terrans Mvp, MKP and MMA.
WriterMaru
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
July 19 2011 16:57 GMT
#2712
would have liked MC to win even tho I like HongUn more as Nestea will just 3-0 poor HongUn now.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
July 19 2011 16:57 GMT
#2713
On July 20 2011 01:34 vnlegend wrote:
LOTS of Terrans have better TvZ than Bomber. Bomber's record is inflated as this is only his 2nd season in code S. Bomber spent a large part of his record playing vs Code A or weaker. I'd say MVP, MKP, MMA, sC, TOP, Puma, and probably a few more are better than Bomber at TvZ.

Retarded post... code A players may actually be stronger than code S in average, the format for promotion from A to S is not as bad as MLG point system but definitely favors the incumbent code S player over the up-and-comer code A player.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
July 19 2011 17:00 GMT
#2714
On July 19 2011 20:58 akaname wrote:
I didn't play much 1v1 SC1 but could someone tell me whether a shield battery could potentially 'fix' 4gate pvp by returning defenders advantage? To me it seems like a pretty good thing to bring back from SC1 (for HOTS obv) given the current pvp style is still mostly 4gate


There were no warpgates in SC1, 4 gate didn't exist
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#2715
On July 20 2011 01:48 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 00:57 novabossa wrote:
HongUn sniping dem oGs

[image loading]


LOOOOOOOOOOL WOOOOW
OGS SNIPE


guess who the old generation starcraft players are playing against on thursday in gstl :D
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#2716
On July 20 2011 02:03 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 01:48 ShootingStars wrote:
On July 20 2011 00:57 novabossa wrote:
HongUn sniping dem oGs

[image loading]


LOOOOOOOOOOL WOOOOW
OGS SNIPE


guess who the old generation starcraft players are playing against on thursday in gstl :D

And MC is starting. *whistle* They're getting serious.

Don't think Prime is going to play HongUn though. Wrist + still in the running for the GSL = HongUn gets a break.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
July 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#2717
Dang, just missed out on MC vs Nestea thats too bad
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
July 19 2011 17:05 GMT
#2718
On July 20 2011 01:57 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 01:34 vnlegend wrote:
LOTS of Terrans have better TvZ than Bomber. Bomber's record is inflated as this is only his 2nd season in code S. Bomber spent a large part of his record playing vs Code A or weaker. I'd say MVP, MKP, MMA, sC, TOP, Puma, and probably a few more are better than Bomber at TvZ.

Retarded post... code A players may actually be stronger than code S in average, the format for promotion from A to S is not as bad as MLG point system but definitely favors the incumbent code S player over the up-and-comer code A player.

Alright, go ahead and watch the Code A matches from January and we'll see who's the retarded one.

Code S players are overall supreme. The mix consists of champions and consistent contenders. The same cannot be said about Code A, especially in the early days.

---

Back on topic, TOP alone is clearly better than Bomber. TOP easily won vs Nestea while Bomber was destroyed. SC took DongRaeGu, arguably the best ZvT'er, to 4-3 matches, Bomber lost to Moon... Bomber's TvZ is really not that good and has no significant results to show for it.
Marines > everything
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
July 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#2719
On July 20 2011 01:48 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 00:57 novabossa wrote:
HongUn sniping dem oGs

[image loading]


LOOOOOOOOOOL WOOOOW
OGS SNIPE


rofl i just noticed this too!
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
July 19 2011 17:12 GMT
#2720
On July 20 2011 01:30 vnlegend wrote:
In every situation where MC lost, he made 22, 24, and 22 probes while Hongun only made 20. In the first game, these 2 probes could've been traded for an extra pylon so MC wouldn't have gotten supply blocked. Overall, overmaking probes made MC get everything out slower than Hongun and everything just snowballed.


So the recipe to win a PvP is to play it out with 6 probes till the end? lol .. I am sure MC build accounts for his opponent making less probes.. he just failed to execute proper defense as is case whenever someone gets outplayed.
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