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Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
July 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#2741
MC avoids Nestea again >
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
July 19 2011 18:32 GMT
#2742
wtf MC. I was so excited for a MC, NesTea, Losira, Bomber semiinfals!!
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
dCc
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada86 Posts
July 19 2011 18:37 GMT
#2743
I just died a little on the inside
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
July 19 2011 18:37 GMT
#2744
Sigh jipped out of seeing MC vs Nestea again.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
July 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#2745
Has probably been said before, but MC/Nestea is totally the new Bisu/Jaedong.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 19 2011 19:00 GMT
#2746
On July 20 2011 02:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
What's everyone upset about? This was just Naniwa vs HasuObs all over again: one player consistently uses 4gate and the other cannot adjust to it. Not HongUn's fault that MC couldn't hold off the most popular PvP strategy ever. Seems like Prime players are becoming experts at recognizing and hammering away at flaws.

Nobody is angry at how HongUn won, just disappointed that we're not getting MC vs NesTea.
CrazyCow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States308 Posts
July 19 2011 19:03 GMT
#2747
GSL always has these unlucky upsets that rob them of good games deep in the tournament. Hopefully we can see Nestea vs. Bomber, I feel like he would roll Losira.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 19:17:19
July 19 2011 19:15 GMT
#2748
On July 20 2011 04:03 CrazyCow wrote:
GSL always has these unlucky upsets that rob them of good games deep in the tournament. Hopefully we can see Nestea vs. Bomber, I feel like he would roll Losira.


Even if Bomber wins there's no way Nestea will lose, Losira will tell him everything there is to know imo. And I just realized...wanting to face Bomber in the final is also wanting Losira to lose, right? That's kind of inconsiderate for a Korean progamer. Most Koreans would go "Losira's match is coming up soon and I wish him the best of luck advancing" but Nestea goes "yeah I'm the only one that can stop Bomber".
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 19 2011 19:20 GMT
#2749
The funny thing is that people let HongUn's 0-7 record really color their perceptions of his PvP when it's actually just way too small a sample size to really be meaningful. If people remember HongUn's PvPs, he refrained from 4gating for some odd reason (opting to do risky "I hope my opponent doesn't 4gate" stuff like going DTs), and simply rolled over and died to his opponent's 4gates, which isn't really indicative of any actual lack of PvP skill other than that HongUn tried to play kind of unorthodox and failed in past PvPs.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
July 19 2011 19:21 GMT
#2750
Was heavily hoping for Losira/MC finals. In terms of skill level and excitement, that would probably hit everything best. Congrats to Hongun though.
the farm ends here
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 19:29:49
July 19 2011 19:29 GMT
#2751
Calling it now... finals will be IMNesTea vs IMLosirA, the God and the prince... and it's going to be awesome (not like today's games).
You play to win
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 19 2011 19:38 GMT
#2752
On July 19 2011 21:38 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:32 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:23 Azzur wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:17 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:06 Azzur wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:44 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:40 Azzur wrote:
Hahahaha, today's games couldn't have got any better. I remember an old MC interview where he said he would've crushed Nestea if it was him in the finals instead of Inca (GSL May).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221587

On May 11 2011 13:19 Azzur wrote:
I want to face Nestea and Mvp. If I were in the finals right now, I guarantee I would crush Nestea in the matchup.

Hmm... these are big words. He should prove it (i.e. by qualifying for the finals) instead.

Here's hoping that the overconfidence will lead to an early elimination in the Super Tournament!

I was right about the early elimination from the Super Tournament

The thing is, I bet in his next interview, he will go on about how if he had the chance to face Nestea, he would crush him. I'll be like, why don't you concentrate on getting to the stage where you can face him?? MC was thinking about his "future" opponent of Nestea today and didn't show enough respect to HongUn.

Today was a great day - free flowing buffet of MC fanboy tears :p


The anti-MC glee is possibly more annoying than the MC fanboy tears. There are so many unfair assumptions being made about MC's personality by people like you that it makes my head hurt. The funny thing is that overall, MC is still the most financially successful player, so I guess there are precious few moments for people like you to come out of the woodworks to take little shots at MC. -_-;;

Yep, it's true - I freely admit that I'm a MC-hater. However, I don't go about making statements about how I'm going to crush so-and-so when I haven't even made that stage yet.


I don't really understand what you mean when you keep bringing up how MC "hasn't even made it to that stage yet", but it seems like your only argument at this point since you keep repeating it over and over, so I'll bite. Both of them have won two GSLs. They're pretty much equal in accomplishments. Sometimes Nestea makes it further, sometimes MC does. You post as if MC has never, ever made it as far as Nestea has, as if MC is just some kid with no accomplishments to speak of who keeps on bragging that he can roll Nestea. Not true.

The fact that you're an MC hater means that you're immediately biased on interpreting how MC operates, so if you have any means of logical thought left, then consider this: MC often makes really bold statements about how he feels he'll do in a match, but in the end, he always humbles himself and tells things as they are: "Oh, ____ was a lot better than I thought", or "Wow, I really need to practice harder, I got outclassed there". Like I said, all you can see is the bold statements that he makes to generate hype and put on a show, and you're just lost in hating on that rather than looking at the big picture.

In this interview thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221587

MC said this:
I want to face Nestea and Mvp. If I were in the finals right now, I guarantee I would crush Nestea in the matchup.

He made that statement just prior to the GSL May finals between Nestea vs Inca. This is my point - you don't go about making statements about how you're going to beat someone when you haven't even reached the same stage in the tournament.


Do you find it to be such a horribly offensive example of moral degeneracy that you let a little remark in an interview completely color your opinion of someone's entire personality? It's even more bothersome seeing people do that to MC because he's made such an effort to reach out to the foreign community. I guess it doesn't really matter though, because in the end, anti-fans are viewers that are drawn just like fans are, only they come in the interest of seeing MC lose. Whether you like it or not, your negative interest in him still helps e-Sports, and cements the fact that MC is great for e-Sports.



Nope, it is not only this one remark. This remark is just a drop of many:
- Throat slashing Idra.
- Banging on the booth in the GSTL match against DRG.
and many others...

Thus, I feel I'm justified in my opinion that MC is cocky and arrogant. Yep, I agree that the anti-fans are great for e-sports and sports in general (I have first-hand experience since I'm a big anti-fan of Manchester United). I even admit that I enjoy it when MC is playing as me and his anti-fans flock to see him lose.

If you act the way MC does, you have to expect backlash when you lose. I don't buy the argument that he is mis-represented.


You don't buy the argument that he's mis-represented? Do you think that he's truly cocky and arrogant, and you think that the argument that it's for show doesn't hold any water?

Then allow me to prove you wrong:

- MC knows how to please the fans very well. While he may put on a show on the stage but in reality he respects the players thoroughly and makes an effort to talk to all the foreign players. In esports and in everything there's often more than what you see and I hope everyone realizes that when they see MC crowdpleasing.


That's from a blog post written by Milkis, one of the great translators on TL, who personally met the Korean players who went to MLG. Here's a link.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=231706
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
July 19 2011 19:38 GMT
#2753
wow

i wanted nestea vs mc
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
July 19 2011 19:43 GMT
#2754
MC

I wanted to see MC vs. nestea so badly. Looks like nestea is gonna win another GSL without ever really having to go through another powerhouse lol

Congrats to hongun and nestea on advancing
SooYoung-Noona!
Sumwar
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada199 Posts
July 19 2011 19:50 GMT
#2755
Oh man it seems like Nestea is almost guaranteed to reach the finals. Hongun isn't terrible vs Z according to his teamliquid stats but this is Nestea.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 19 2011 19:50 GMT
#2756
Can anyone translate this MC tweet? I think it was posted after his match with Hongun.

뭘 한건지도 모르겠다 프로라는놈이 준비된경기에서 파일런 막히고 생각없이 게임을했다 변명할 가치도 없는 게임이었고 제일 아쉬운것은 재덕이형과의 경기를 놓친것이고 나 자신에게 화가난다


Thanks. ^^
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 19 2011 19:52 GMT
#2757
On July 20 2011 04:50 nvs. wrote:
Can anyone translate this MC tweet? I think it was posted after his match with Hongun.

Show nested quote +
뭘 한건지도 모르겠다 프로라는놈이 준비된경기에서 파일런 막히고 생각없이 게임을했다 변명할 가치도 없는 게임이었고 제일 아쉬운것은 재덕이형과의 경기를 놓친것이고 나 자신에게 화가난다


Thanks. ^^


뭘 한건지도 모르겠다
I don't even know what I did

프로라는놈이 준비된경기에서 파일런 막히고 생각없이 게임을했다
For someone who calls himself a pro, I played absent-minded in a match I was ready for, being pylon-blocked

변명할 가치도 없는 게임이었고 제일 아쉬운것은 재덕이형과의 경기를 놓친것이고 나 자신에게 화가난다
Those games I have no excuses for, and the thing I'm most regretful about is losing a chance to match against NesTea-Hyung (respectful way of address an older person) and I'm angry at myself

Courtesy of edhwan in the MC fanclub. Milkis also did another translation so you can check his twitter if you're interested.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 19 2011 19:53 GMT
#2758
On July 20 2011 04:52 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 04:50 nvs. wrote:
Can anyone translate this MC tweet? I think it was posted after his match with Hongun.

뭘 한건지도 모르겠다 프로라는놈이 준비된경기에서 파일런 막히고 생각없이 게임을했다 변명할 가치도 없는 게임이었고 제일 아쉬운것은 재덕이형과의 경기를 놓친것이고 나 자신에게 화가난다


Thanks. ^^


뭘 한건지도 모르겠다
I don't even know what I did

프로라는놈이 준비된경기에서 파일런 막히고 생각없이 게임을했다
For someone who calls himself a pro, I played absent-minded in a match I was ready for, being pylon-blocked

변명할 가치도 없는 게임이었고 제일 아쉬운것은 재덕이형과의 경기를 놓친것이고 나 자신에게 화가난다
Those games I have no excuses for, and the thing I'm most regretful about is losing a chance to match against NesTea-Hyung (respectful way of address an older person) and I'm angry at myself

Courtesy of edhwan in the MC fanclub. Milkis also did another translation so you can check his twitter if you're interested.


Oh, thanks a lot. Didn't see it was already translated.
hahaimhenry
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada368 Posts
July 19 2011 19:55 GMT
#2759
On July 20 2011 04:43 ffadicted wrote:
MC

I wanted to see MC vs. nestea so badly. Looks like nestea is gonna win another GSL without ever really having to go through another powerhouse lol

Congrats to hongun and nestea on advancing

ST_Bomber, he's pretty good!
:]
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 19 2011 19:58 GMT
#2760
gah my heart is broken (( xD MC has been the king of disappointing finishes lately, always so close yet so far away. Still love him though get em next time MC!
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