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charliewinsmore
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
98 Posts
July 19 2011 20:01 GMT
#2761
OK, everyone join me in praying for a Nestea/Bomber final
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 19 2011 20:04 GMT
#2762
So I don't want to upset you, but Byun seems pretty brutal in TvT right now (smashing SC, MVP and Nada). So I don't think that we will see himn in the semis.
My predictions:
Losira > Trickster
Byun > Bomber

Byun > Losira (Byun seems pretty solid in all MUs, Losira's ZvT performances are unstable)
NesTea >? HongUn (But not so sure about that. HongUn has sooo many tricks up his sleeve)

NesTea > Byun (else Byun>HongUn)
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 20:07:39
July 19 2011 20:06 GMT
#2763
I've never actually hated a progamer before for winning -- until today.

Nonetheless, I feel like NesTea will smash HongUn, would've smashed MC, and will smash Losira/Bomber/Trickster/Byun
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 20:13:21
July 19 2011 20:07 GMT
#2764
So basically, all the pvp games were 4-gate victories, and in 2 games via baserace? Sounds very..Hongun.

Impressive feat by Hongun but Nestea man.. I would be surprised if he even took 1 game from him.

I wanted to see Nestea v MC so bad = (
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 19 2011 20:13 GMT
#2765
Coca is really good on the ladder, and beats Losira in ZvZ practice matches all the time. So...who knows. I honestly thought that he had a good chance in at least taking a game off of NesTea. Oh well...
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
July 19 2011 20:13 GMT
#2766
MC DIDN'T WIN!?!?
I <3 Plexa.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 20:35:34
July 19 2011 20:24 GMT
#2767
Sure glad they fixed 4 gating. Seems all it did was weaken one of Ps all ins vs other two race and did nothing to fix matchup... at least in GSL. Almost every single PvP in last two tournaments was a 4 gate. eh.

How about gateways cranking units faster than WG and WG is a twilight tech? I've never understood that button to swap back to gates since there is absolutely no advantage to having gateways as opposed to warp gates. I have hit it accidentally though and died shortly thereafter. This would afford P early units and shut down 4 gating once and for all.
MC for president
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#2768
On July 20 2011 04:00 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 02:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
What's everyone upset about? This was just Naniwa vs HasuObs all over again: one player consistently uses 4gate and the other cannot adjust to it. Not HongUn's fault that MC couldn't hold off the most popular PvP strategy ever. Seems like Prime players are becoming experts at recognizing and hammering away at flaws.

Nobody is angry at how HongUn won, just disappointed that we're not getting MC vs NesTea.


I'm seeing rage posts about how HongUn only won due to 4gate. That's not mere disappointment.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
July 19 2011 20:56 GMT
#2769
Haha those walkover statements can sometimes bite you in the ass. Hope for Nestea vs Losira finals.
When in doubt, just drone up.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 19 2011 20:59 GMT
#2770
On July 20 2011 05:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 04:00 ZAiNs wrote:
On July 20 2011 02:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
What's everyone upset about? This was just Naniwa vs HasuObs all over again: one player consistently uses 4gate and the other cannot adjust to it. Not HongUn's fault that MC couldn't hold off the most popular PvP strategy ever. Seems like Prime players are becoming experts at recognizing and hammering away at flaws.

Nobody is angry at how HongUn won, just disappointed that we're not getting MC vs NesTea.


I'm seeing rage posts about how HongUn only won due to 4gate. That's not mere disappointment.


I wouldn't say I was angry but... I was hoping to see something new / original shown within the PvP matchup. I guess risking everything on a new strategy so deep in the tournament might be dangerous, especially in a matchup such as PvP.

can't really blame the players, they are just playing the game they have been given.
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
July 19 2011 21:03 GMT
#2771
I don't understand what MC was thinking in these games.

Hongun was blatantly 4gating in 3/4 of the games, showing MC tons of chrno boost and MC was building the third pylon really fast almost every game.

He really should of just did a pure defensive 4gate and he would of been fine I think, theres lots of good builds to defend a blatant 4gate and he just wasn't doing it.

Don't feel like it was hongun winning this series, but MC losing it.
IMNotMvp
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)530 Posts
July 19 2011 21:05 GMT
#2772
On July 19 2011 18:21 frogurt wrote:
MC will have a difficult tournament.

He will probably beat Hongun, but then he has to vs Nestea and Losira or Bomber.

I'm rooting for min-chul, he's going to have to pull off something more gosu than usual.

lol
BlaDe977
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada73 Posts
July 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#2773
On July 20 2011 04:58 Olinim wrote:
gah my heart is broken (( xD MC has been the king of disappointing finishes lately, always so close yet so far away. Still love him though get em next time MC!


yea getting second in the NASL and making it to round of eight of code s while also being in foreign tournements is dissapointing right?
MC - total beast
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
July 19 2011 21:16 GMT
#2774
On July 20 2011 06:05 IMNotMvp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:21 frogurt wrote:
MC will have a difficult tournament.

He will probably beat Hongun, but then he has to vs Nestea and Losira or Bomber.

I'm rooting for min-chul, he's going to have to pull off something more gosu than usual.

lol


Way to contribute.

I really, really need to watch these series. One to learn ZvZ from the best, and another to know what just happened. That was the last thing I expected.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#2775
On July 20 2011 06:13 BlaDe977 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 04:58 Olinim wrote:
gah my heart is broken (( xD MC has been the king of disappointing finishes lately, always so close yet so far away. Still love him though get em next time MC!


yea getting second in the NASL and making it to round of eight of code s while also being in foreign tournements is dissapointing right?

You're right I didn't mean it like that. I just mean for example his game against puma so close, and obviously he is doing amazingly as a player, I just want him to win everything so bad it's tough when he loses like that :D
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 19 2011 22:00 GMT
#2776
On July 20 2011 06:13 BlaDe977 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 04:58 Olinim wrote:
gah my heart is broken (( xD MC has been the king of disappointing finishes lately, always so close yet so far away. Still love him though get em next time MC!


yea getting second in the NASL and making it to round of eight of code s while also being in foreign tournements is dissapointing right?


He meant disappointing in the sense that we all know how good MC can be so we have really high standards for him.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
July 19 2011 22:29 GMT
#2777
Clearly shows that MC is no longer the best protoss in Korea (I would say not even top 3). The days when you win PvP with only micro is long over, but it looks like MC hasn't realized it yet. More time in Korea will do him good, otherwise the gap will just get wider.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#2778
On July 20 2011 07:29 jellyjello wrote:
Clearly shows that MC is no longer the best protoss in Korea (I would say not even top 3). The days when you win PvP with only micro is long over, but it looks like MC hasn't realized it yet. More time in Korea will do him good, otherwise the gap will just get wider.

What a ridiculous statement. While MC didn't play well today, he is still by a fair margin the best Protoss in Korea.
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 22:35:00
July 19 2011 22:34 GMT
#2779
On July 20 2011 07:29 jellyjello wrote:
Clearly shows that MC is no longer the best protoss in Korea (I would say not even top 3). The days when you win PvP with only micro is long over, but it looks like MC hasn't realized it yet. More time in Korea will do him good, otherwise the gap will just get wider.


Sorry, but this is a silly statement.

MC is easily still the best protoss, noone can compete with him, he is 10-2 in PvP in GSL, you telling me he's bad?...

And yes, you can still win pvp with micro alone, especially since MC has the best macro of any protoss in the world, as quoted by Tyler on SOTG, and agreed on by everyone else.

EDIT: He lost because of bad decissions today, the last game was...weird.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 19 2011 22:39 GMT
#2780
On July 20 2011 07:29 jellyjello wrote:
Clearly shows that MC is no longer the best protoss in Korea (I would say not even top 3). The days when you win PvP with only micro is long over, but it looks like MC hasn't realized it yet. More time in Korea will do him good, otherwise the gap will just get wider.

Truly laughable.
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