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On August 05 2011 01:52 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:51 coko wrote:On August 05 2011 01:50 Lysanias wrote:On August 05 2011 01:45 CraZyWayne wrote:
What the fuck? Why do you people complain? The next time they will make it less obvious with the same outcome nevertheless. It's just all about these shitty rules. Because they have the right to ? It's rather funny no one can give it's opinion anymore about something that should not really happen to a pro gamer, honestly if you go to a tourney to get 2/3th place because you are scared to face tough aponents. What are you doing there ? I understand them not wanting to play Sen, he's a beast but you should not be able to have the option to choice in a Tournament, something they both think they have. That's not how it works. You see the lineup and then it can happen you meet a good player in an early round. Not saying they should get a DQ, but what they tried to do is not correct either, entertaining games or not. You answered it yourself. They are there to get 2nd or 3rd place. So they avoid tougher opponents in early brackets hoping someone else knocks them out. They are in it to win it, and to win it means a bit of luck and understanding the bracket system. Honestly. That's not a winners mentality.
The best generals win the easy fights and avoid the hard ones.
No different here.
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i like the new metagame push by TLO
loose the 2 first game to disturb the opposents
and rape the third to finally qualify
pretty impressive BO and new style incoming in the SC2 scene
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On August 05 2011 01:50 Airionn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:44 asperger wrote:On August 05 2011 01:41 sixfour wrote:On August 05 2011 01:38 Vul wrote:
Guys this is no big deal and other things like this happen in sports all the time. In soccer they would be the "injured" players jumping off the stretcher as soon as they're off the field. At least this isn't that annoying and is actually entertaining. They'll play the rest of their games seriously, I'm sure in soccer they would be denmark and sweden agreeing to draw 2-2 for a huge "sup italy?" or germany scoring vs austria in 1982 then both doing nothing for 80 minutes for a huge "sup algeria?" I strongly doubt that Denmark let Sweden have their 2-2 goal in the end of the game, they probably would've loved seeing us get knocked out. Nope its true, thats why they play all last games together rather waiting and seeing results beforehand.
They were, but Italia had Bulgaria left, so everyone assumed that they would win, IIRC.
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On August 05 2011 01:51 T0fuuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:45 Grettin wrote:On August 05 2011 01:44 Schelim wrote:
disqualify both stephano and brat_ok and allow grubby to move on!
pretty please? Please make it happen. ^_^ Nothing is more sacred than the competition. I really do hope they get dqed for throwing games. Its not like they were trying to make the other look bad by playing goofy. They were just trying to lose. Imagine if at the finals and they decided to split the prize money between themselves and proceeded to attempt to lose a box series. This is just as bad.
Throwing a qualifying game is the same as throwing a finals and planning on splitting the money? Hmm let me think for second.
+ Show Spoiler + ....Oh, right. No, it's not. Well that was easy.
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On August 05 2011 01:51 T0fuuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:45 Grettin wrote:On August 05 2011 01:44 Schelim wrote:
disqualify both stephano and brat_ok and allow grubby to move on!
pretty please? Please make it happen. ^_^ Nothing is more sacred than the competition. I really do hope they get dqed for throwing games. Its not like they were trying to make the other look bad by playing goofy. They were just trying to lose. Imagine if at the finals and they decided to split the prize money between themselves and proceeded to attempt to lose a box series. This is just as bad.
children are definately more sacred than competition.
...good work stephano and bratok both showed strong plays in the last series.
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Well the usual answer to this is to play all final games at the same time so people don't know to "win/lose". But that is just not possible scheduling/streaming wise.
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I'm surprised so many people want Stephano and Brat_OK to be DQ-ed. This phenomena happens in big sports events as well. Rather blame the tournament structure than the players imo.
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On August 05 2011 01:52 Tako-san wrote:
Stephano and BratOK showing how professional they really are... SIGH...
Fun tu watch, for the commentary only...
From a professional standpoint then, if I were to give you 8000 euros for winning 1 match and you had your choice of playing against Sen or Sarens, who would it be?
How is that any different?
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[QUOTE]On August 05 2011 01:53 coko wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 05 2011 01:52 Lysanias wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 05 2011 01:51 coko wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 05 2011 01:50 Lysanias wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 05 2011 01:45 CraZyWayne wrote:
What the fuck? Why do you people complain? The next time they will make it less obvious with the same outcome nevertheless. It's just all about these shitty rules.[/QUOTE]
Because they have the right to ? It's rather funny no one can give it's opinion anymore about something that should not really happen to a pro gamer, honestly if you go to a tourney to get 2/3th place because you are scared to face tough aponents. What are you doing there ?
I understand them not wanting to play Sen, he's a beast but you should not be able to have the option to choice in a Tournament, something they both think they have. That's not how it works.
You see the lineup and then it can happen you meet a good player in an early round.
Not saying they should get a DQ, but what they tried to do is not correct either, entertaining games or not.[/QUOTE]
You answered it yourself. They are there to get 2nd or 3rd place. So they avoid tougher opponents in early brackets hoping someone else knocks them out.
They are in it to win it, and to win it means a bit of luck and understanding the bracket system. Honestly.[/QUOTE]
That's not a winners mentality.
Best Generals don't go for first place prize.
Something compleetly different.
If you go to a tourney and hope to get 3th and avoid tough aponents, that's not a winners mantality, it's smart no doubt, but it's a lot different then going for top spot, and beating any one on your way.
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So the games continue at 8pm CET?
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On August 05 2011 01:54 Therg wrote:
I'm surprised so many people want Stephano and Brat_OK to be DQ-ed. This phenomena happens in big sports events as well. Rather blame the tournament structure than the players imo.
Agreed, and especially for people to say this, how was playing some amusing games different to just left click moving your marines into the banelings during the attack or left click moving your zerg through the terran?
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so, matches start again in one hour. Can someone confirm plz, I don't have stream sounds on? thx
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On August 05 2011 01:55 Titorelli wrote:
So the games continue at 8pm CET?
yep
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Am I correct in saying the next games will be in 1hr and 5 minutes from now?
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Only thing that u can do to prevent this kind of things is to random draw the playoffs after groupstage play is finished.
Just put all winners in one bowl and then put the 2nd place finishers in another and problem should be solved..
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Obviously, SEn should be disqualified for losing to SarenS and causing this mess....
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On August 05 2011 01:54 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:52 Tako-san wrote:
Stephano and BratOK showing how professional they really are... SIGH...
Fun tu watch, for the commentary only... From a professional standpoint then, if I were to give you 8000 euros for winning 1 match and you had your choice of playing against Sen or Sarens, who would it be? How is that any different?
If I gave you some money to break the rules and spirit of competition, would you be interested?
I don't think either should be disqualified, but I think that competitions should not allow this to happen, and I'm disappointed by both of the players.
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On August 05 2011 01:52 Pirat6662001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 01:51 T0fuuu wrote:On August 05 2011 01:45 Grettin wrote:On August 05 2011 01:44 Schelim wrote:
disqualify both stephano and brat_ok and allow grubby to move on!
pretty please? Please make it happen. ^_^ Nothing is more sacred than the competition. I really do hope they get dqed for throwing games. Its not like they were trying to make the other look bad by playing goofy. They were just trying to lose. Imagine if at the finals and they decided to split the prize money between themselves and proceeded to attempt to lose a box series. This is just as bad. srsly, do you watch pro sports? If sc2 wants to become one it needs to learn to let players make the best choices for themselves
Uhh... but in real sport players are punished for bad sportsmanship and matchfixing. What have you been watching?
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GameCreds even claims games start 10 minutes earlier on their stream. Huk vs Jimpo
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Gogo Nightend!! U can definitely qualify from your group.
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