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Stay positive, be happy and enjoy the event. Caster bashing and player bashing? Too much whining? Uh-oh!
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:48:50
August 04 2011 16:48 GMT
#1461
On August 05 2011 01:45 justinpal wrote:
I cannot believe how many people want them to be DQ-ed.

me either
they were put in awkward situation because of tourney structure, always 1 of them could purposely lose without anyone making notice, now at least we know that both of them didnt want to win

sportmanship or not, you are able to call gg whenever you want
Stork[gm]
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
August 04 2011 16:48 GMT
#1462
On August 05 2011 01:45 CraZyWayne wrote:
What the fuck? Why do you people complain? The next time they will make it less obvious with the same outcome nevertheless. It's just all about these shitty rules.

Exactly. It's so easy for a player to throw a game subtly. The rules are the problem. Even if you re-game, how can you judge whether a player is throwing a game? Bratok mis-controls drops, loses a couple of full medivacs. Throwing a game, or bad play? Stephano mis-micros banelings, loses them to tanks then loses the game. Throwing a game, or bad play?

Even if you DQ one or both of them, unless the rules change, the next time this happens, it'll be the same thing, only the players will be more subtle. The rules are the problem, not the players.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
August 04 2011 16:48 GMT
#1463
On August 05 2011 01:46 red4ce wrote:
I'm actually curious as to how this hasn't happened before. What does the GSL do to prevent this sort of player dodging from taking place?

At Dreamhack they randomized it. Day9 himself rolled the dice. Dunno about GSL.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1464
On August 05 2011 01:46 red4ce wrote:
I'm actually curious as to how this hasn't happened before. What does the GSL do to prevent this sort of player dodging from taking place?

Because, if you lose at the GSL you are out.
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
HostileIgloo
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand19 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1465
It was mentioned on the TL twitter stream.
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1466
they shouldnt have played the game if neither player wanted to win, they should have just flipped a coin or sth..
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1467
On August 05 2011 01:47 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:46 Agathon wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:37 Titorelli wrote:
Mb Stephano hates Bratok now?



No. He his in interview on millenium tv, and just said "I maid a micro mistake vs bratok, i didn't quit fast enough, i'm must practice more in freeloosing"

You'd think the French would be good at surrendering.

+ Show Spoiler +
I KID, I KID


ha, ha.
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1468
On August 05 2011 01:47 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:46 Agathon wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:37 Titorelli wrote:
Mb Stephano hates Bratok now?



No. He his in interview on millenium tv, and just said "I maid a micro mistake vs bratok, i didn't quit fast enough, i'm must practice more in freeloosing"

You'd think the French would be good at surrendering.

+ Show Spoiler +
I KID, I KID

OH SNAP, best post in the thread so far
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1469
They need to do random drawings, so shit like this doesn't happen. Do it like Dreamhack did, it's not very hard.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1470
On August 05 2011 01:46 red4ce wrote:
I'm actually curious as to how this hasn't happened before. What does the GSL do to prevent this sort of player dodging from taking place?


This happens a lot it just isnt as obvious I remember BW tournies having the same issue too.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1471
On August 05 2011 01:47 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:46 Agathon wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:37 Titorelli wrote:
Mb Stephano hates Bratok now?



No. He his in interview on millenium tv, and just said "I maid a micro mistake vs bratok, i didn't quit fast enough, i'm must practice more in freeloosing"

You'd think the French would be good at surrendering.

+ Show Spoiler +
I KID, I KID

i almost fell out of the chair, such obvious joke didnt come into my head, thanks
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1472
On August 05 2011 01:45 justinpal wrote:
I cannot believe how many people want them to be DQ-ed.

If it wasn't broadcast, nobody would care. But hilarious games or not, you can't make it THAT obvious you're throwing the games (BratOKs fast gg in game 3 is especially indicative of that).
the farm ends here
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:50:11
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1473
On August 05 2011 01:47 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:46 Agathon wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:37 Titorelli wrote:
Mb Stephano hates Bratok now?



No. He his in interview on millenium tv, and just said "I maid a micro mistake vs bratok, i didn't quit fast enough, i'm must practice more in freeloosing"

You'd think the French would be good at surrendering.

+ Show Spoiler +
I KID, I KID


Ahah, nicely done

And it's pretty right in history
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1474
On August 05 2011 01:46 redloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:40 zev318 wrote:
the thing is, terran is actually sen's worst matchup (W-L record), dunno why bratok would run from that, he has the same % against T and Z. and then sarens' vT is his best matchup %


Nestea's worst matchup is vs T too, but sure no one would want to take on Nestea


im saying if u had to play anyone, u'd much rather play them in their worst matchup, that's all.

justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 04 2011 16:49 GMT
#1475
On August 05 2011 01:48 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:45 justinpal wrote:
I cannot believe how many people want them to be DQ-ed.

they were put in awkward situation because of tourney structure, always 1 of them could purposely lose without anyone making notice, now at least we know that both of them didnt want to win


This happens in every form of competition.
Never make a hydralisk.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:50:15
August 04 2011 16:50 GMT
#1476
On August 05 2011 01:49 ArnaudF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:47 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:46 Agathon wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:37 Titorelli wrote:
Mb Stephano hates Bratok now?



No. He his in interview on millenium tv, and just said "I maid a micro mistake vs bratok, i didn't quit fast enough, i'm must practice more in freeloosing"

You'd think the French would be good at surrendering.

+ Show Spoiler +
I KID, I KID


ha, ha.


That was a good joke, wasn't it?

+ Show Spoiler +
oh wait, what joke?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 04 2011 16:50 GMT
#1477
On August 05 2011 01:45 CraZyWayne wrote:
What the fuck? Why do you people complain? The next time they will make it less obvious with the same outcome nevertheless. It's just all about these shitty rules.


Because they have the right to ? It's rather funny no one can give it's opinion anymore about something that should not really happen to a pro gamer, honestly if you go to a tourney to get 2/3th place because you are scared to face tough aponents. What are you doing there ?
I understand them not wanting to play Sen, he's a beast but you should not be able to have the option to choice in a Tournament, something they both think they have. That's not how it works.
You see the lineup and then it can happen you meet a good player in an early round.

Not saying they should get a DQ, but what they tried to do is not correct either, entertaining games or not.
Airionn
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
August 04 2011 16:50 GMT
#1478
On August 05 2011 01:44 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:41 sixfour wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:38 Vul wrote:
Guys this is no big deal and other things like this happen in sports all the time. In soccer they would be the "injured" players jumping off the stretcher as soon as they're off the field. At least this isn't that annoying and is actually entertaining. They'll play the rest of their games seriously, I'm sure


in soccer they would be denmark and sweden agreeing to draw 2-2 for a huge "sup italy?"
or germany scoring vs austria in 1982 then both doing nothing for 80 minutes for a huge "sup algeria?"

I strongly doubt that Denmark let Sweden have their 2-2 goal in the end of the game, they probably would've loved seeing us get knocked out.

Nope its true, thats why they play all last games together rather waiting and seeing results beforehand.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 04 2011 16:50 GMT
#1479
Should just either not release the details of the play-off scheme before groups are finished, or better, make a drawing for the playoff match-ups.
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
August 04 2011 16:50 GMT
#1480
On August 05 2011 01:45 CraZyWayne wrote:
What the fuck? Why do you people complain? The next time they will make it less obvious with the same outcome nevertheless. It's just all about these shitty rules.

What they should do is DQ both for "sabotaging the games" as per paragraph 2.10 of the rulebook and switch to GSL style group play for Assembly Winter.
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