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Stay positive, be happy and enjoy the event. Caster bashing and player bashing? Too much whining? Uh-oh!
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
August 04 2011 16:57 GMT
#1521
On August 05 2011 01:55 Titorelli wrote:
So the games continue at 8pm CET?

CEST.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
August 04 2011 16:58 GMT
#1522
If you know you can't beat one person, but by avoiding them early enough you'll either meet them in the final or they will be knocked out. You should do it. It increases your chances of winning and it is winning mentality. You are looking for the best edge.

Seriously, if you guys think the way to win is play the best people in an elimination tournament you are just totally wrong.

Sure on the ladder, in practise play them. On the main stage, give me the weaker player every time.
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 04 2011 16:58 GMT
#1523
On August 05 2011 01:57 ZiRn1tRa wrote:
Obviously, SEn should be disqualified for losing to SarenS and causing this mess....

First great suggestion from TL forums! make it so
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:59:19
August 04 2011 16:58 GMT
#1524
On August 05 2011 01:54 coko wrote:
Well the usual answer to this is to play all final games at the same time so people don't know to "win/lose". But that is just not possible scheduling/streaming wise.

No that's a very unusual answer.

The obvious answer is either to randomize playoffs or to do MSL-style group play where you are never through by losing your last game.
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
August 04 2011 16:59 GMT
#1525
I hope they both get demolished next round, even if they have an easy opponent. This is just sad.
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
August 04 2011 16:59 GMT
#1526
On August 05 2011 01:58 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:54 coko wrote:
Well the usual answer to this is to play all final games at the same time so people don't know to "win/lose". But that is just not possible scheduling/streaming wise.

No that's a very unusual answer.

The obvious answer is either to randomize playoffs or to do MSL-style group play where you are never through by losing your last game.


By usual I meant sports like Football do this for the World Cup.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
August 04 2011 17:00 GMT
#1527
On August 05 2011 01:58 coko wrote:
If you know you can't beat one person, but by avoiding them early enough you'll either meet them in the final or they will be knocked out. You should do it. It increases your chances of winning and it is winning mentality. You are looking for the best edge.

Seriously, if you guys think the way to win is play the best people in an elimination tournament you are just totally wrong.

Sure on the ladder, in practise play them. On the main stage, give me the weaker player every time.


I think that's because you have absolutely no competitive spirit or sense of sportsmanship.

Throwing games for money is always morally reprehensible, they should face DQ.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 04 2011 17:00 GMT
#1528
On August 05 2011 01:56 Fujer wrote:
Only thing that u can do to prevent this kind of things is to random draw the playoffs after groupstage play is finished.
Just put all winners in one bowl and then put the 2nd place finishers in another and problem should be solved..

It can happen in any sort of group play. Say you have 2 teammates in group play, if one is winning the group they can throw a game to their teammate to secure their #2 spot, or at least force a tiebreaker.
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
August 04 2011 17:00 GMT
#1529
On August 05 2011 01:58 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:54 coko wrote:
Well the usual answer to this is to play all final games at the same time so people don't know to "win/lose". But that is just not possible scheduling/streaming wise.

No that's a very unusual answer.

It's actually pretty usual in certain sports.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
August 04 2011 17:00 GMT
#1530
Yo damn some of you guys are worse than tabloid article writers O.O
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
loazis
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands381 Posts
August 04 2011 17:01 GMT
#1531
Wow fuck, that blew my eardrums.
There is no spoon.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8320 Posts
August 04 2011 17:01 GMT
#1532
Shame about the players that can't make it, but sick player list still.

I actually play on an Asus myself, they're great computers.

Dimaga Fighting!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
August 04 2011 17:02 GMT
#1533
Are you not entertained?


Seriously enough QQ. Can't be bothered to defend players from those arguing WIN WIN WIN.

FUN FUN FUN IMO. FUN WIN FUN. or WIN FUN WIN. Seems fine to me. At least they didn't just instantly leave.

And for the rules against it.

You can't. I mean by that rule Idra should of be DQ'd for leaving against MMA because he was winning and left. Was he trying to avoid the next player he'd meet? No. Clearly not.

Yes you could argue that you know why they are doing what they are doing. But you cannot say for certain they are playing to lose. They are playing to be crazy imo.
bennedik
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany127 Posts
August 04 2011 17:02 GMT
#1534
I am in Helsinki and have a day off tomorrow. Is it possible to go to Assembly just to watch the Starcraft tournament? On the website they seem to be talking about the players only, but I would just want to watch.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
August 04 2011 17:02 GMT
#1535
actually stephano took the first one seriously but when he saw bratok freeloose he decided to do it too, that's only the admin's fault, this kinf of situation shouldn't happen, and the bracket is fucked up with sen, stephano, huk and nada (4 best players of the tourney so far) on a side and the others on another side.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
August 04 2011 17:02 GMT
#1536
On August 05 2011 02:00 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:56 Fujer wrote:
Only thing that u can do to prevent this kind of things is to random draw the playoffs after groupstage play is finished.
Just put all winners in one bowl and then put the 2nd place finishers in another and problem should be solved..

It can happen in any sort of group play. Say you have 2 teammates in group play, if one is winning the group they can throw a game to their teammate to secure their #2 spot, or at least force a tiebreaker.


That's true!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 04 2011 17:02 GMT
#1537
On August 05 2011 01:57 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:54 Badfatpanda wrote:
On August 05 2011 01:52 Tako-san wrote:
Stephano and BratOK showing how professional they really are... SIGH...

Fun tu watch, for the commentary only...


From a professional standpoint then, if I were to give you 8000 euros for winning 1 match and you had your choice of playing against Sen or Sarens, who would it be?

How is that any different?


If I gave you some money to break the rules and spirit of competition, would you be interested?
I don't think either should be disqualified, but I think that competitions should not allow this to happen, and I'm disappointed by both of the players.


Yes, I would. I don't know how ESPORTS followers obtained this white knight mentality that they believe all players have to abide to. If we as a community truly want SC2 to become mainstream and held up to the same regard as other sports shit like this will happen a lot more often.

Is it wrong? Maybe, but players have to make these decisions for themselves, they shouldn't be held to the ridiculous standards of forum users who only look our for their self interest, in this case entertainment value.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
August 04 2011 17:02 GMT
#1538
On August 05 2011 02:00 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:58 coko wrote:
If you know you can't beat one person, but by avoiding them early enough you'll either meet them in the final or they will be knocked out. You should do it. It increases your chances of winning and it is winning mentality. You are looking for the best edge.

Seriously, if you guys think the way to win is play the best people in an elimination tournament you are just totally wrong.

Sure on the ladder, in practise play them. On the main stage, give me the weaker player every time.


I think that's because you have absolutely no competitive spirit or sense of sportsmanship.

Throwing games for money is always morally reprehensible, they should face DQ.

Lemme know whare your "competitive spirit" is when you are given a chance to win 8000 euros. Until then get off your high horse. blame the tourney.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 04 2011 17:03 GMT
#1539
On August 05 2011 01:54 Therg wrote:
I'm surprised so many people want Stephano and Brat_OK to be DQ-ed. This phenomena happens in big sports events as well. Rather blame the tournament structure than the players imo.

Why is everyone saying this? Just because someone gets an opportunity to cheat does not mean it is OK to do so!!
So are all of you the kind of person that would find a wallet on a street with money in it but also the owner identity, take the money and throw away the wallet?!
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
August 04 2011 17:04 GMT
#1540
On August 05 2011 02:03 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 01:54 Therg wrote:
I'm surprised so many people want Stephano and Brat_OK to be DQ-ed. This phenomena happens in big sports events as well. Rather blame the tournament structure than the players imo.

Why is everyone saying this? Just because someone gets an opportunity to cheat does not mean it is OK to do so!!
So are all of you the kind of person that would find a wallet on a street with money in it but also the owner identity, take the money and throw away the wallet?!

Nope, that would be against the law.
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