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Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
July 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#641
remove warpgate from PvP games
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
July 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#642
On July 18 2011 18:58 Chriscras wrote:
I can't tell if Unstable is mumbling or if he has a thick accent, but sometimes it's hard to understand what he is saying


australian mate
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Phyxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark681 Posts
July 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#643
On July 18 2011 18:57 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Id much rather watch PvP then ZvZ or TvT , atleast this is action

Well, me proxy two raxing someone is action aswell. It doesn't usual make it great games.
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
July 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#644
pvp games too short? take 5 minute break
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
July 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#645
On July 18 2011 18:53 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:35 zerat00l wrote:
Korea called. The 4 gate is still broken.


Homestory Cup and Naniwa/MC/Huk called. The problem is not 4 gate.

I'd really like to see top 4 and finals get played on the same day. Less prep time for a single match seems like it makes a big difference concerning the quality of games. Just look at MLG, Homestory, Dreamhack, NASL, and even weekly tournaments (including the korean one). Great finals consistently, unlike the GSL.


Then how come TSL finals were so great?
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
July 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#646
God this is boring.

Do something different for once Tassadar.
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rhazz88
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia177 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#647
On July 18 2011 18:48 Phyxx wrote:
DT rush vs DT rush now!


That's all we're missing right now :p
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#648
*sigh*

This is depressing.. And Tal'darim has pretty wide pathways. I haven;t seen PvP on it in a while, but does the basic "you can't hold the ramp with 1 FF, so you must 4gate" rule apply here, or no because the map is generally larger? (Not that that matters much, since proxy Pylon + Warp Gate..)
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#649
On July 18 2011 18:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:53 Haydin wrote:
On July 18 2011 18:35 zerat00l wrote:
Korea called. The 4 gate is still broken.


Homestory Cup and Naniwa/MC/Huk called. The problem is not 4 gate.

I'd really like to see top 4 and finals get played on the same day. Less prep time for a single match seems like it makes a big difference concerning the quality of games. Just look at MLG, Homestory, Dreamhack, NASL, and even weekly tournaments (including the korean one). Great finals consistently, unlike the GSL.

I disagree with that. PvP is just a really really dumb matchup. You require absolute precision to defend a 4gate vs non-4gate at this level so why take the risk? Play it safe and 4gate back, it's the smart thing to do in a final like this. I think this final would look more or less the same regardless of preptime.


Well I feel like if you 4 gate vs 4 gate, your chances of winning are maybe 60% even if you are a lot better because the initial engagement decides everything.

A well executed 3 gate robotics build can work, as well as an earlier twilight build with the ramp advantage + a sentry.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#650
On July 18 2011 18:56 super_toast wrote:
Well guys this isn't really boring

PvP for worst matchup

its one of the best match ups imo.

ZvZ is terrible,

TvT is pretty bland,

TvZ is depressing

PvT is good, prob best

PvZ i still dont understand.
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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#651
2 problems with PvP:

1. No defenders advantage: that's why it's not really dynamic. Any investment in econ or tech opens up a timing.
2. Difficulty of scouting: that's what makes it so volatile.

That's the way it's going to be without some design changes.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Animostas
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States568 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#652
Egh.. I was hoping that PvP had developed into something other than 4-gate...

Now I know what to expect on ladder >.>
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#653
On July 18 2011 18:58 Wildsound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:57 Yew wrote:
How does Tassadar get so far ahead with his cyber + WG research?


He does 12 gate, puzzle does 13

Ok ty.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#654
every game will be four gate unfourtunately.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13021 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#655
On July 18 2011 18:58 Gamegene wrote:
I sincerely apologize for bitching about this but this is not what I want when I decide to stay up till 3 AM to watch the GSL Code A finals.

I don't want to watch players winning because "his 4 gate was faster than the other guy's 4 gate."
"He has a pylon in his base, and he has as 4 gate so he wins."

I mean of course I'm going to watch this through hoping for a better game, but I'm thoroughly disappointed so far.

Anyone else feel the same?

That's pvp nothing we can do about it, at least if you are not protoss you don't have to play the matchup
WriterMaru
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#656
On July 18 2011 18:56 Daniel C wrote:
Have these players ever heard of a second base? Such is PvP...


Yeh lets fast expand and lose every game. They are there to win, not do builds that make you happy.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 18 2011 09:59 GMT
#657
On July 18 2011 18:59 VashTS wrote:
*sigh*

This is depressing.. And Tal'darim has pretty wide pathways. I haven;t seen PvP on it in a while, but does the basic "you can't hold the ramp with 1 FF, so you must 4gate" rule apply here, or no because the map is generally larger? (Not that that matters much, since proxy Pylon + Warp Gate..)

If you can't FF the entrance, you will four gate.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51545 Posts
July 18 2011 10:00 GMT
#658
On July 18 2011 18:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:56 super_toast wrote:
Well guys this isn't really boring

PvP for worst matchup

its one of the best match ups imo.

ZvZ is terrible,

TvT is pretty bland,

TvZ is depressing

PvT is good, prob best

PvZ i still dont understand.


WHAT?

TvT is bland?

nonense.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 18 2011 10:00 GMT
#659
+ Show Spoiler +

Puzzle vs Tassadar

First map is dual sight

Game one has now started

In the Left position is Tassadar

While in the right position is Puzzle

1:40

Gateway from both but tassadar's is earlier

2:10

Both players taking their gas

3:00

Zealot for both players along with a cyber core


3:20

Second gas for puzzle

Warp gate for tassadar


4:20

Three more gateways for Tasadar

Puzzle only getting two more


5:10

Pylons going up in puzzle's base

6:00

Stalkers inside the base of puzzle

6:45

GG from puzzle
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
July 18 2011 10:00 GMT
#660
On July 18 2011 18:56 Giriath wrote:
Tassadar looked so sad


TasSADar.
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