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On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about.
The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO.
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Hey guys we actually got a game going on right now ^^
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On July 17 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:50 Leviance wrote:On July 17 2011 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:40 Andr3 wrote:
I guess Goody's asset is his game sense? At least that's what I can gather from his games. Everything in comparison is quite bad I think, but his decision making is super strong too... It's mostly his patience and the fact he is the only guy playing like Goody. Ever had a really bad player do something really weird/dumb against you and it works? pretty much this. not saying goody is weird/dumb, its just his playstyle is so unique. look at NASL where his opponents had time to prepare for him. He went 2-7. His mech really can throw someone off in a regular tournament where its a completely different type of play. to be fair he was in a slump during the NASL time. After that episode of unsuccessfulness he went back to beating the top players in tournaments that have known his style for a year. It's definitely not that if you prepare for GoOdy it's autowin. Such a dumb statement. DarKFoRcE who was said to have invented the perfect Zerg counter style to GoOdy lost to him in HSC3 0-2. He was in a 9 week slump? HSC3, Darkforce was preparing for more than just Goody too. In a tournament setting like HSC3 or a TL Open, Goody's style is much stronger because players aren't used to it. When they have a week to prepare against it, it is much weaker. Hence the 2-7 in NASL.
Everyone by now knows he is meching. Don't act like there are no mech players besides GoOdy. Pure bullshit. His hard is just VERY HARD to play against. Thats all about it. Its not hard to play against because its NON-STANDARD. Its hard to play against, because mech is hard to attack and hard to abuse.
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Is it just me or is Chill constantly flip flopping so he can agree with TLO?
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Just tuned in, is it over soon  ? i hope not
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On July 17 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:50 Leviance wrote:On July 17 2011 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:40 Andr3 wrote:
I guess Goody's asset is his game sense? At least that's what I can gather from his games. Everything in comparison is quite bad I think, but his decision making is super strong too... It's mostly his patience and the fact he is the only guy playing like Goody. Ever had a really bad player do something really weird/dumb against you and it works? pretty much this. not saying goody is weird/dumb, its just his playstyle is so unique. look at NASL where his opponents had time to prepare for him. He went 2-7. His mech really can throw someone off in a regular tournament where its a completely different type of play. to be fair he was in a slump during the NASL time. After that episode of unsuccessfulness he went back to beating the top players in tournaments that have known his style for a year. It's definitely not that if you prepare for GoOdy it's autowin. Such a dumb statement. DarKFoRcE who was said to have invented the perfect Zerg counter style to GoOdy lost to him in HSC3 0-2. He was in a 9 week slump? HSC3, Darkforce was preparing for more than just Goody too. In a tournament setting like HSC3 or a TL Open, Goody's style is much stronger because players aren't used to it. When they have a week to prepare against it, it is much weaker. Hence the 2-7 in NASL.
during the time NASL was played Goody also didnt do very good in weekly cups/EPS. He was just slumping and has been getting stronger again since Dreamhack/homestory.
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On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO.
EU weeklys mean nothing. Every EU player has a shit load of $100 tournament wins because there's like 10 a week.
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could we stop with people jumping in to defend goody and people arguing about his style?
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On July 17 2011 07:57 mTw|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:50 Leviance wrote:On July 17 2011 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:40 Andr3 wrote:
I guess Goody's asset is his game sense? At least that's what I can gather from his games. Everything in comparison is quite bad I think, but his decision making is super strong too... It's mostly his patience and the fact he is the only guy playing like Goody. Ever had a really bad player do something really weird/dumb against you and it works? pretty much this. not saying goody is weird/dumb, its just his playstyle is so unique. look at NASL where his opponents had time to prepare for him. He went 2-7. His mech really can throw someone off in a regular tournament where its a completely different type of play. to be fair he was in a slump during the NASL time. After that episode of unsuccessfulness he went back to beating the top players in tournaments that have known his style for a year. It's definitely not that if you prepare for GoOdy it's autowin. Such a dumb statement. DarKFoRcE who was said to have invented the perfect Zerg counter style to GoOdy lost to him in HSC3 0-2. He was in a 9 week slump? HSC3, Darkforce was preparing for more than just Goody too. In a tournament setting like HSC3 or a TL Open, Goody's style is much stronger because players aren't used to it. When they have a week to prepare against it, it is much weaker. Hence the 2-7 in NASL. Everyone by now knows he is meching. Don't act like there are no mech players besides GoOdy. Pure bullshit. His hard is just VERY HARD to play against. Thats all about it. Its not hard to play against because its NON-STANDARD. Its hard to play against, because mech is hard to attack and hard to abuse.
Just because you know he is meching, doesn't mean you are prepared for it. It is hard to play against because it isn't standard. People don't have as much knowledge to know how to attack it and abuse it. Given the opportunity to play against it often and properly prepare for it, mech becomes much weaker.
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On July 17 2011 07:57 mTw|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:50 Leviance wrote:On July 17 2011 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:40 Andr3 wrote:
I guess Goody's asset is his game sense? At least that's what I can gather from his games. Everything in comparison is quite bad I think, but his decision making is super strong too... It's mostly his patience and the fact he is the only guy playing like Goody. Ever had a really bad player do something really weird/dumb against you and it works? pretty much this. not saying goody is weird/dumb, its just his playstyle is so unique. look at NASL where his opponents had time to prepare for him. He went 2-7. His mech really can throw someone off in a regular tournament where its a completely different type of play. to be fair he was in a slump during the NASL time. After that episode of unsuccessfulness he went back to beating the top players in tournaments that have known his style for a year. It's definitely not that if you prepare for GoOdy it's autowin. Such a dumb statement. DarKFoRcE who was said to have invented the perfect Zerg counter style to GoOdy lost to him in HSC3 0-2. He was in a 9 week slump? HSC3, Darkforce was preparing for more than just Goody too. In a tournament setting like HSC3 or a TL Open, Goody's style is much stronger because players aren't used to it. When they have a week to prepare against it, it is much weaker. Hence the 2-7 in NASL. Everyone by now knows he is meching. Don't act like there are no mech players besides GoOdy. Pure bullshit. His hard is just VERY HARD to play against. Thats all about it. Its not hard to play against because its NON-STANDARD. Its hard to play against, because mech is hard to attack and hard to abuse.
I think you should take into account that Goody mixes quite a lot of cheeses in his play ,so people who try to cut corners too much against him.
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On July 17 2011 07:45 Liquid`TLO wrote:
I wont be dishonest, when I see a bad game. Both players did about 30 mistakes, horrible macro, worse decision... deal with it.
LOL!
That is not the point!
U were just totally unmannered and one sided.
So many people point out Goody's mistakes on streams but it is kinda "friendly" (Take, Cloud, Darkforce, Naruto, HasuObs...)
Even though they criticize him, they show respect for his playstyle and his achievements.
But you just sounded like someone who is rly pissed, about Goody's success.
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On July 17 2011 07:59 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO. EU weeklys mean nothing. Every EU player has a shit load of $100 tournament wins because there's like 10 a week.
Oh ok, then you should have no problem finding me 5 EU players who have won more of them. Since he is an "average EU pro," there should be at least 30 guys who are more accomplished.
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Now that was a great game. Returning played soooo well there.
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On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. So pointing out goody's subpar macro is BM? You didn't get it. Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:49 romanov wrote:On July 17 2011 07:35 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:34 nvs. wrote:On July 17 2011 07:33 romanov wrote:Goody in the GSL would be so.... interesting  For the 2 games he'd get to play. ^^ That's two games in Code B. He beat Nestea in TSL  Lag is pretty good.
Why the hate? O.o
GoOdy isnt average in EU. He is Top Tier and winning a lot of tournaments. Normally 4-6 Top2 Placements in 6 weeks.
u jelly maybe?
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On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO.
Goody prize money is at $7,420.00 and TLO at $8,911.00. So not big difference and TLO has not played in the last month. The main reason I still dont consider Goody a top Terran is because he was just soooo bad in NASL going 2-7, he lost 0-2 against Catz, CATZ!
On July 17 2011 08:00 HarryKlein wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:45 Liquid`TLO wrote:
I wont be dishonest, when I see a bad game. Both players did about 30 mistakes, horrible macro, worse decision... deal with it. LOL! That is not the point! U were just totally unmannered and one sided. So many people point out Goody's mistakes on streams but it is kinda "friendly" (Take, Cloud, Darkforce, Naruto, HasuObs...) Even though they criticize him, they show respect for his playstyle and his achievements. But you just sounded like someone who is rly pissed, about Goody's success.
Goody's success? lol. Name one major tournament he has won.
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On July 17 2011 08:00 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:57 mTw|NarutO wrote:On July 17 2011 07:55 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:50 Leviance wrote:On July 17 2011 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:40 Andr3 wrote:
I guess Goody's asset is his game sense? At least that's what I can gather from his games. Everything in comparison is quite bad I think, but his decision making is super strong too... It's mostly his patience and the fact he is the only guy playing like Goody. Ever had a really bad player do something really weird/dumb against you and it works? pretty much this. not saying goody is weird/dumb, its just his playstyle is so unique. look at NASL where his opponents had time to prepare for him. He went 2-7. His mech really can throw someone off in a regular tournament where its a completely different type of play. to be fair he was in a slump during the NASL time. After that episode of unsuccessfulness he went back to beating the top players in tournaments that have known his style for a year. It's definitely not that if you prepare for GoOdy it's autowin. Such a dumb statement. DarKFoRcE who was said to have invented the perfect Zerg counter style to GoOdy lost to him in HSC3 0-2. He was in a 9 week slump? HSC3, Darkforce was preparing for more than just Goody too. In a tournament setting like HSC3 or a TL Open, Goody's style is much stronger because players aren't used to it. When they have a week to prepare against it, it is much weaker. Hence the 2-7 in NASL. Everyone by now knows he is meching. Don't act like there are no mech players besides GoOdy. Pure bullshit. His hard is just VERY HARD to play against. Thats all about it. Its not hard to play against because its NON-STANDARD. Its hard to play against, because mech is hard to attack and hard to abuse. Just because you know he is meching, doesn't mean you are prepared for it. It is hard to play against because it isn't standard. People don't have as much knowledge to know how to attack it and abuse it. Given the opportunity to play against it often and properly prepare for it, mech becomes much weaker.
And I'm telling you no. It gets "easier" as everything becomes easier when you face it more often or prepare against something in particular. You act like GoOdy is a cheesy person and people can't really have a straight macro game against him which is not true. I know his style, I've prepared against it and its still amazingly heart to exploit and beat.
Ask Kas, he is the ONLY Terran (as mentioned before) that constantly beats GoOdy. I'm not a GoOdy fanboy, but that bashing is unreasonable right now.
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On July 17 2011 07:59 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO. EU weeklys mean nothing. Every EU player has a shit load of $100 tournament wins because there's like 10 a week.
well whitera, thorzain, sjow, morrow, hasuobs and many more didnt win anything big this year too
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On July 17 2011 08:01 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO. Goody prize money is at $7,420.00 and TLO at $8,911.00. So not big difference and TLO has not played in the last month. The main reason I still dont consider Goody a top Terran is because he was just soooo bad in NASL going 2-7, he lost 0-2 against Catz, CATZ!
Recently however he raped CatZ so badly that someone should have called the police.
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On July 17 2011 08:02 Miefer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:59 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO. EU weeklys mean nothing. Every EU player has a shit load of $100 tournament wins because there's like 10 a week. well whitera, thorzain, sjow, morrow, hasuobs and many more didnt win anything big this year too
HasuObs won Torneo ESL Spain today ;-)! 4000 € against Socke 4-3
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On July 17 2011 08:01 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:57 city42 wrote:On July 17 2011 07:55 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about. The hell? He has won a ton of tournaments. Check the accomplishments on his TLPD page, and compare them to those of TLO. Goody prize money is at $7,420.00 and TLO at $8,911.00. So not big difference and TLO has not played in the last month. The main reason I still dont consider Goody a top Terran is because he was just soooo bad in NASL going 2-7, he lost 0-2 against Catz, CATZ!
Recently GoOdy defeated Catz 3:0 (in a SpecialEndrey showmatch series.)
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