EPTAre Goody and the winner of Hak-Returning the only one left?
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
Are Goody and the winner of Hak-Returning the only one left? | ||
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Dexx
Germany175 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:05 godemperor wrote: Goody has not won a single major tournament, that is the FACT! The size of the tournament doesn't matter since from the RO 32 onwards there are the usual suspects in the small tournaments who participate in the bigegr ones too. The only difference is the prize money. But the actual players are the same. | ||
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:06 mTw|NarutO wrote: Have you ever heard me casting a GoOdy game? I do point out his mistakes and I make a bit o fun of him as well. But I do not completely ignore the right decisions in the game and I do not ignore the mistakes of the other person. It was Strelok's game to lose, if you like it or not. If you want to bash on someone - bash on Strelok - he threw the game away BESIDES GoOdy not playing his A-Game. As I said, TLO didn't ignore Goody's right decisions. He pointed out his opening, his hellion defense, and his thor pushes. That was a unique game with a lot of mistakes so you can't be mad at TLO for pointing them out. That's his job. | ||
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Titorelli
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:07 CoB-Vince wrote: naruto just shut the fuck up so we can end this. omg Reported. Thats not the way people talk to each other here. | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:08 wats0n wrote: As I said, TLO didn't ignore Goody's right decisions. He pointed out his opening, his hellion defense, and his thor pushes. That was a unique game with a lot of mistakes so you can't be mad at TLO for pointing them out. That's his job. You act like I don't understand anything about the game. But I'll just leave you with your opinion. I would have commented the game in a very different way even though I would have pointed out GoOdy's mistakes. He is a very humorous guy and even he complains about the casting - so what do you think? | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:08 Diavlo wrote: Can someone tell me what's the advancement of the tournament and what players are left? Are Goody and the winner of Hak-Returning the only one left? Goody in final vs winner of zenexhack vs zenexreturning | ||
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iMonAhorsE
Germany275 Posts
people can pointing out goodys mistakes, make some fun about his play etc. but they have to show respect for him as a player, he has earned it with consistent, succesful play. And TLO ( especially as a fellow player who hasnt won anything big either) not showing any respect is why people (imo rightfully) complain. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:02 mTw|NarutO wrote: And I'm telling you no. It gets "easier" as everything becomes easier when you face it more often or prepare against something in particular. You act like GoOdy is a cheesy person and people can't really have a straight macro game against him which is not true. I know his style, I've prepared against it and its still amazingly heart to exploit and beat. Ask Kas, he is the ONLY Terran (as mentioned before) that constantly beats GoOdy. I'm not a GoOdy fanboy, but that bashing is unreasonable right now. Of course everything becomes easier when you face it more, hence why in tournaments like TL Open you can handle standard play easier and someone like Strelok, a great Terran, better than Goody, can go through the bracket with ease. But then he hit Goody, who plays a style that is rarely faced so he is already at a disadvantage right there. Players don't have nearly as much prep time for against the mech of Goody as they do against the standard play. That gives Goody an edge. I'm not calling Goody cheesy at all. I like to see the mech. I wish he would improve his macro because it is horrible. I feel like his play could be even stronger and could start a real mech tech switch by Terrans in general. We haven't seen him perform that well in a big tournament and its because of his bad macro. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Liudo
United Kingdom344 Posts
He also comes across as a genuinely warm and friendly person. I also don't really have a problem with the way he was casting GoOdy's game vs Strelok. Even though he was being pretty harsh, there was a reason why he was saying the things he said, and everything he said had a justification for it in some way. However I am a little surprised, given how friendly TLO is, that his reaction to GoOdy's post was so cool and cold. I would have wanted one of my favourite SC2 players to be nicer to one of my other favourite SC2 players. It is a little disappointing. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:10 mTw|NarutO wrote: You act like I don't understand anything about the game. But I'll just leave you with your opinion. I would have commented the game in a very different way even though I would have pointed out GoOdy's mistakes. He is a very humorous guy and even he complains about the casting - so what do you think? It's pretty funny that you with your flaming and insulting background (remember especially back in Broodwar towards dario) whine so much about an maybe harsh but pretty objective critic of the gameplay (and not the person like you like to do so much) of a single game. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
Focus on the games, and be happy we have a promising final inbound. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:06 city42 wrote: Nice attempt at dodging, but let's get back to what I asked for. You claim that "Every EU player has a shitload of $100 tournament wins." Find me 5 players who have won as many of them as goody. Since "every EU player" meets this criterion you should have no trouble. Nerchio, Dimaga, Kas, Happy, Strelok, Morrow. | ||
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LowChucky
United Kingdom243 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:09 mTw|NarutO wrote: Reported. Thats not the way people talk to each other here. Naruto, i agree with what that guy said, although his phrasing was stupid. It's a non issue, just move on so we can talk about the games here (This also goes to everyone else discussing this) | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:06 mTw|NarutO wrote: Have you ever heard me casting a GoOdy game? I do point out his mistakes and I make a bit o fun of him as well. But I do not completely ignore the right decisions in the game and I do not ignore the mistakes of the other person. It was Strelok's game to lose, if you like it or not. If you want to bash on someone - bash on Strelok - he threw the game away BESIDES GoOdy not playing his A-Game. You sound very biased, and you assume everyone should treat goody the same as you and your friends, maybe there are some people who find not using mule and queuing multiple units as actually bad thing worth noting despite the player being winning or losing the game its called being objective. He did not ignore Strelok mistakes... Its just you generally dont see 200 energy orbital for 5 minutes in any pro match, and some people are not used to cast goody games so they are cought off-guard by his macro. | ||
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Titorelli
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iMonAhorsE
Germany275 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:12 TBO wrote: It's pretty funny that you with your flaming and insulting background (remember especially back in Broodwar towards dario) whine so much about an maybe harsh but pretty objective critic of the gameplay (and not the person like you like to do so much) of a single game. its pretty funny how obviously biased you are  | ||
Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On July 17 2011 08:08 Norseman wrote: Yeah, casters have a resonsibility to be impartial. By all means they should comment on what's going on, but belitting the entire match like that is just poor caster-ship. Your job is to make the match exciting and fun to watch. Do you think they brought you in to bash players as they play? I hope you enjoy casting this, because with unprofessional stataments like this and child-like insults during a game I doubt you'll be asked to cast again. If nothing else you should respect the fact he's in the finals of the tournament you were brought in to cast. Again, point out all the bad you like, but when you attack the players or the match as a whole you're doing the exact opposite thing you were brought in to do. I can't speak for others, but I've always had a lot of respect for you. You're better than this kind of petty crap. Oh get off your high horse. TLO is a player first caster second, I bet people would be bitching if he wasn't being himself. | ||
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