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On July 17 2011 07:46 Andr3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:42 GoOdy wrote:
rly painfull to watch the TLO/chill cast, with take/cloud its always funny because they respect me as a player, but TLO and chill are just insulting It's because of your unique style Goody, you started playing 2 years too soon and nobody is prepared for you onslaught, spectator-wise too. Goody Fighting!!!!
If by unique style you mean mech, just look at Korea's GumiHo, who does mech nearly as much as Goody and does it better with twice the apm and better multitasking, macro, and micro....
the games deserved criticism...props to TLO for not shying away from the truth.
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On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic.
On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve.
This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about.
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On July 17 2011 07:48 Shockk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:43 mTw|NarutO wrote:On July 17 2011 07:42 GoOdy wrote:
rly painfull to watch the TLO/chill cast, with take/cloud its always funny because they respect me as a player, but TLO and chill are just insulting QUOTING THIS FOR TRUTH. Its embarassing how they cast. And I usually like Chill and TLO in person. Actually, it's not - it's fun and entertaining. Sure, there's another side to this, and I can understand if Goody's taking this a bit personal, as they are ridiculing his playstyle a bit. But they don't do so with bad intentions; that last game was weird. You have to admit that. It was interesting to watch, it was a deserved win, but I fully support TLO's "Everything is wrong!". I'm pretty sure that except for those few irrelevant people in this thread and on the chat relentlessly bashing Goody for no good reason, there's noone (and especially not the casters) meaning ill here.
Obviously it was a weird game with huge mistakes on both sides. But it seemed like they totally forgot about how good of a player GoOdy usually is. It was a off game from him. Have you even been blue flame rushed, cloak banshee rushed and was so far behind? It kind of shakes you. His decision to not go for a third base, but add more factories to gain army advantage was the correct decision because he would not have caught up getting a (later) 3rd as Strelok with already being behind.
As I said, I like Chill and TLO in person and I enjoy their casting, I just find the bashing was A BIT TOO MUCH this time.
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10 bucks Goody wrote this because he just lost the finals to Hack/Returning and was still a bit down hehe...
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On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about.
this is was people say since beta xD
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On July 17 2011 07:50 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:46 Andr3 wrote:On July 17 2011 07:42 GoOdy wrote:
rly painfull to watch the TLO/chill cast, with take/cloud its always funny because they respect me as a player, but TLO and chill are just insulting It's because of your unique style Goody, you started playing 2 years too soon and nobody is prepared for you onslaught, spectator-wise too. Goody Fighting!!!! If by unique style you mean mech, just look at Korea's GumiHo, who does mech nearly as much as Goody and does it better with twice the apm and better multitasking, macro, and micro.... the games deserved criticism...props to TLO for not shying away from the truth.
We dont complain about that they critisize the players. Its the way they do it. Aint funny at all like this
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I am hoping Hack will win.
Because Goody has much better chances beating him in he final than a protoss.
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Russian Federation798 Posts
I think he had a full energy Orbital cos he was saving it for scans. At some point mules are not as worth as scans, which you need a lot for TvT tank battles. One scan can win or loose a game, while a mule does not.
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Now this is some real starcraft.
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I'm really liking Returning's play so far, damn.
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On July 17 2011 07:45 Liquid`TLO wrote:
I wont be dishonest, when I see a bad game. Both players did about 30 mistakes, horrible macro, worse decision... deal with it.
This is not untrue but it comes across pretty cold. TLO seems like such a warm personality, it jars to see such blunt phraseology. I can't really imagine TLO saying something like this... which is why seeing it written by TLO is odd.
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On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about.
People laughed at GoOdy for using mech and not changing. Now the GSL Terrans adjust to Mech - who's laughing now? GoOdy has no good mechanics, but insanely good reads and decision making. Everyone knows he has bad macro, get supply blocked and its fine to tell that straight in a cast, but if you fail to see the right decisions he made that game or just don't see them - its casterfail.
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On July 17 2011 07:45 Liquid`TLO wrote:
I wont be dishonest, when I see a bad game. Both players did about 30 mistakes, horrible macro, worse decision... deal with it.
Keep on doing what you are doing, hope you get well soon.
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On July 17 2011 07:52 fishinguy wrote:
I think he had a full energy Orbital cos he was saving it for scans. At some point mules are not as worth as scans, which you need a lot for TvT tank battles. One scan can win or loose a game, while a mule does not.
I kinda thought that was obvious ;(. It was purely gas units at that stage without air control.
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On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD
exactly my thoughts
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On July 17 2011 07:42 GoOdy wrote:
rly painfull to watch the TLO/chill cast, with take/cloud its always funny because they respect me as a player, but TLO and chill are just insulting
Things are always simple: The one who wins is always right! This goes for everything in life. You are one of the most stable players for month going always very deep or even winning online cups against high level competition. You do everything right! Don't change or let critics under your skin!
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goody gets a compliment say "tanks"
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On July 17 2011 07:52 fishinguy wrote:
I think he had a full energy Orbital cos he was saving it for scans. At some point mules are not as worth as scans, which you need a lot for TvT tank battles. One scan can win or loose a game, while a mule does not.
that and he was only on 2 base, with mules he would have mined out his bases too fast and he cant spend it fast enough
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On July 17 2011 07:52 iMonAhorsE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:51 KvltMan wrote:On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. On July 17 2011 07:47 Daralii wrote:
Wouldn't it be worse if they were overlooking GoOdy's mistakes just because of who he is? If you criticize a player, they can learn to improve. This, essentially. GoOdy triumphs because of his unique style, but he will not be able to live off that forever, it's obvious that he has some issues with his macro, and it's something that people shouldn't ignore simply because his style is unique or because he can swing lost games around. Bad macro is bad macro, and getting it pointed out to you is nothing to be upset about. this is was people say since beta xD
Let's not pretend Goodys been winning tournament. He's an average EU Pro, who's known for his unique style but results wise, there's nothing to write home about.
On July 17 2011 07:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:47 lunchforthesky wrote:
When Tastosis talk about theBestfou drunk driving banshee's it's really funny, when TLO laughs at Goody's macro, queuing units, energy on his CC, low APM etc.. it's BM. Standard TL poster logic. So pointing out goody's subpar macro is BM?
You didn't get it.
On July 17 2011 07:49 romanov wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:35 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:34 nvs. wrote:On July 17 2011 07:33 romanov wrote:Goody in the GSL would be so.... interesting  For the 2 games he'd get to play. ^^ That's two games in Code B. He beat Nestea in TSL 
Lag is pretty good.
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On July 17 2011 07:50 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 07:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 17 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:On July 17 2011 07:40 Andr3 wrote:
I guess Goody's asset is his game sense? At least that's what I can gather from his games. Everything in comparison is quite bad I think, but his decision making is super strong too... It's mostly his patience and the fact he is the only guy playing like Goody. Ever had a really bad player do something really weird/dumb against you and it works? pretty much this. not saying goody is weird/dumb, its just his playstyle is so unique. look at NASL where his opponents had time to prepare for him. He went 2-7. His mech really can throw someone off in a regular tournament where its a completely different type of play. to be fair he was in a slump during the NASL time. After that episode of unsuccessfulness he went back to beating the top players in tournaments that have known his style for a year. It's definitely not that if you prepare for GoOdy it's autowin. Such a dumb statement. DarKFoRcE who was said to have invented the perfect Zerg counter style to GoOdy lost to him in HSC3 0-2.
He was in a 9 week slump? HSC3, Darkforce was preparing for more than just Goody too. In a tournament setting like HSC3 or a TL Open, Goody's style is much stronger because players aren't used to it. When they have a week to prepare against it, it is much weaker. Hence the 2-7 in NASL.
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