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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1921
On July 12 2011 20:58 Kitaen wrote:
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On July 12 2011 20:56 cassurai wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army


nonsense. he chose to do stupid nuke tactic instead of drop play.


drop play vs phoenix and warp ins?

There were times where the Phoenix were out of position, and ideally he could have snuck in a couple of drops to snipe the Nexus. But he was constrained by the fact that he did not have enough medivacs I think. He really should have pumped more. I think he only had 1 reactored starport the whole game.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
babyToSS
Profile Joined December 2009
233 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1922
Clide's mid-late game decision making makes me cry. Its like a mechanics genius who is clueless as to what to do with an advantage. There were points he could have a-moved with emps and vikings to finish off tester. He throws away huge timing attack windows and plays way too passive. He should just switch to zerg, would go much better with his play style.
babyToSS here! Can u go easy on me plzzz?
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1923
On July 12 2011 20:56 Carryz wrote:
lol @ all the people claiming it was the best game.



LOL at you sir
gl hf gg
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1924
On July 12 2011 20:56 cassurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army


nonsense. he chose to do stupid nuke tactic instead of drop play.



Drops would've been a better option but I really hate that map. Its hard against protoss. I think the marine tank style would've been a superior choice for that map rather than the marine marauder. Maybe swap what he did in game 2 with game 3.
Binabik
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany686 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1925
On July 12 2011 20:55 iamthedave wrote:
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On July 12 2011 20:54 Skyze wrote:
wow what a game.. I would put that top 3 of SC2's history so far.


You've only started watching recently, then? There was some truly awful play in there. 4 out of the 5 games MC and Puma played were better than this by far.

Actually you meant to say 6 out of 7 :D

But I still liked this PvT because they're not the most famous players and still showed a great game. Clide's nuke strategy was kinda awesome as well, I think we'll going to see that more often in the future
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1926
On July 12 2011 20:58 Daralii wrote:
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On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army

Yup, it obviously wasn't that Clide made so many nukes that did jack shit instead of EMPing, it was that T1 units aren't good against mass colossus/HT.

Some people let their fanboyisms get the better of them...

Srsly, to all of those whining on that Trickster won because of imbalance, please just suck it up and get a grip. The reasons he won were: 1. Trickster played nearly perfectly from the moment he got way behind. 2. Clide played really bad when we was way ahead... those nukes were like 5000/5000 wasted or whatknot.

There was nothing imbalanced about this game, geez.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1927
That was bad play by Clide, and boring play by trickster. Entertaining game though lol.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1928
On July 12 2011 21:00 Kitaen wrote:
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On July 12 2011 20:58 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army

Yeah, by outmicroing and outmacroing the shit out of your opponent... ie playing better


outMACROing? 4 vs 2 bases? have you every tried playing vs a protoss who is 2 bases ahead? no micro/macro or terran army in this world will every make this possible


Tester opened up every tech in the game on 2 bases. Of course he was going to have a tech advantage to come back with!
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Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 12:04:10
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1929
On July 12 2011 21:00 Carryz wrote:
It's hilarious skimming through these posts. It's obvious based on the comments who are the forever bronze and silvers.

edit: not even bothering
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1930
On July 12 2011 21:00 Carryz wrote:
It's hilarious skimming through these posts. It's obvious based on the comments who are the forever bronze and silvers.


True that. Koreans are good, very very good, but they cant do EVEYRTHING at once. Mistakes happen. Clide isn't awful.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 12 2011 12:01 GMT
#1931
On July 12 2011 20:59 RPR_Tempest wrote:
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On July 12 2011 20:59 Plexa wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:56 Plexa wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:55 Confuse wrote:
Is Clide destined to be the Hwasin of SC2? : /

Hwasin was actually good.

I guess a player who consistently destroys his Ro32 groups that have players such as MarineKing, san and NesTea is bad now.

I don't think you appreciate just how good Hwasin was... he just kept running into an insanely inform bisu =/

No, no, I'm not saying Clide is as good as Hwasin, but Clide isn't bad, that's all.

A better analogy would be sea[shield] then.
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 12:02:47
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1932
On July 12 2011 21:00 Kitaen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 20:58 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army

Yeah, by outmicroing and outmacroing the shit out of your opponent... ie playing better


outMACROing? 4 vs 2 bases? have you every tried playing vs a protoss who is 2 bases ahead? no micro/macro or terran army in this world will every make this possible


Yeah, why oh why can a 4 base terran not beat a 2 base protoss?

oh wait, maybe because he has 10 scvs per base.

herp I'll go throw down 6 nexuses across the map, send 5 probes to each one, and complain that 6 base protoss loses to 2 base terran.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1933
On July 12 2011 21:00 Kitaen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 20:58 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army

Yeah, by outmicroing and outmacroing the shit out of your opponent... ie playing better


outMACROing? 4 vs 2 bases? have you every tried playing vs a protoss who is 2 bases ahead? no micro/macro or terran army in this world will every make this possible


I think that's the main point, you cannot win TvP 2vs4 bases even if you are the worst P in GM. However as a T, if you make some mistakes and the P has good templar control, it is possible to comeback.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3791 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1934
Honestly Gom should just have the finals players face off against Clide as a warm up exhibition match. Whether or he plays terribly or great he delivers enthralling games. It can make up for how lackluster the GSL finals typically are.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1935
On July 12 2011 21:00 Kitaen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 20:58 CrumpetGuvnor wrote:
On July 12 2011 20:55 Kitaen wrote:
perfect example how you can still win as p vs t with 2 bases short, due to end game army

Yeah, by outmicroing and outmacroing the shit out of your opponent... ie playing better


outMACROing? 4 vs 2 bases? have you every tried playing vs a protoss who is 2 bases ahead? no micro/macro or terran army in this world will every make this possible


Go back to the Bnet forums.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1936
On July 12 2011 21:00 Carryz wrote:
It's hilarious skimming through these posts. It's obvious based on the comments who are the forever bronze and silvers.

nah dude, some of those people make low gold... sadly
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1937
On July 12 2011 21:00 Dariusz wrote:
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On July 12 2011 20:58 nojok wrote:
They should make ghost 81 hp so they survive to storm!


And colossus range 20 +hitting ground and air units at the same time.
Get out.

Well technically making the ghost 81hp would be a nerf, so sure, let's do that.
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1938
On July 12 2011 21:01 MechKing wrote:
That was bad play by Clide, and boring play by trickster. Entertaining game though lol.

hmmm
1+1 = ¹?
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MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1939
wasnt a good game cuz both played kinda bad but it sure was FUN & TENSE

p.s. if clide spent all those minerals he invested in nukes on tanks or something else he shoulda win lol > <
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 12 2011 12:02 GMT
#1940
Guys, we all know you don't get the resources back when you cancel a nuke, but a good player will cancel it anyway to either avoid nuking your own units or to gain position by moving your units into the area where the nuke was going to land. Instead, Clide was frantically running his units out of range of the nuke every single time, that was just weird. I can't possibly imagine that he doesn't know you can cancel a nuke, but at the same time I've never seen any decent player use that many nukes and not cancel at least one.
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