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MassIncestor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
743 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7901
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double stargate for MC but select scans it instantly




ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7902
On July 10 2011 08:11 Alabasern wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:10 Ketch wrote:
Wow.... NASL is listening, they took away the grey bars around the players names that were partially blocking the supply! Good job!


Excellent work NASL


Indeed, now if we can only get rid of the "Game 2" considering 0 - 1 already tells the entire story, everything would be dandy!
SooYoung-Noona!
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7903
On July 10 2011 08:10 Assaulter wrote:
select did this 2nd fast CC because he knows he has to take risks to beat MC

What? He didn't even nexus first which is actually pretty common on crevasse. 1 Rax expand is just playing safe.
SaSe fan club manager
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7904
It's gonna be a huge timing for Select.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7905
2 stargates. interesting
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7906
On July 10 2011 08:07 Dommk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:05 manicshock wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:03 Dommk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:02 ElFuego wrote:
What is terran supposed to use against archons? Honestly curious not a balance complain, ghosts take too long and aren't cost effective in dealing with them and too many marauders die to zealots.

Go Boxer style with 8-9 Ghosts? He was crushing MC in fights but failed in macro and lost


I don't think I would call that crushing in fights past being behind in food since one big fight where he lost and didn't really collapse farther past that. Zealots are expendable, and very strong.

Did you actually watch the games? MC lost the fights like 3 times but he had such good macro that he was keeping up in supply anyway. Go watch the Vods if you aren't sure, I was talking about it to a few friends. Once you have enough EMP's to take out the Archons then it gets super hard for Protoss because it takes soo long to get the Archon count back up.


I was watching it was "crushing" only as far as he might've won the battles if MC hadn't of easily thrown down 6 zealots to reinforce (AKA every TvP I've ever seen where a terran player might've won and then never came close to beating the toss). EMP is the answer yes, but if you can't reach the archons behind the wall of zealots in front of you it's over.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
gizzomizzo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States18 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7907
On July 10 2011 08:07 manicshock wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:05 gizzomizzo wrote:
Wouldn't Thor/Hellion be a more cost effective counter to zealot/archon?


How do you get archons? HT can feedback thors, and storm both hellions and thors. Blink stalkers can be massed as well, and immortals can be added over time.


True. But then, that would get really gas intensive, and at critical mass wouldn't that comp be able to deny expansions fairly cheaply? If you're only spending gas on Thors, tech, and ghosts, you could just play the attrition game, couldn't you?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7908
On July 10 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:11 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:09 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:07 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:40

Orbital / Cyber core in production


3:20

Expansion for Select

Warp gate for MC

4:10

No gas yet for Select


4:30

Third base for Select

Nexus starting for MC


5:10

Two more gateways for MC


5:50

Robo bay for MC


6:20

Two more barracks and select's first gas


6:50

More gas for Select


7:30

Forge for MC

8:00

Factory for Select

8:10

Stim for Select

8:40

MC going to attack


9:00

Twilight council and a third base for MC


9:40

Combat shield for Select

Two stargates for MC


10:20

Charge for MC
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7909
This is bizarre. Chargelot/voidray?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 23:12:59
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7910
Excellent savings for Select, Gretorp
Support your esport!
MassIncestor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
743 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7911
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Select at 1k minerals just managing his 2 bases




Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7912
mc making...phoenix???
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 09 2011 23:12 GMT
#7913
On July 10 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:11 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:11 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:10 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:09 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:09 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

3:20

Expansion for Select

Warp gate for MC

4:10

No gas yet for Select


4:30

Third base for Select

Nexus starting for MC


5:10

Two more gateways for MC


5:50

Robo bay for MC


6:20

Two more barracks and select's first gas


6:50

More gas for Select


7:30

Forge for MC

8:00

Factory for Select

8:10

Stim for Select

8:40

MC going to attack


9:00

Twilight council and a third base for MC


9:40

Combat shield for Select

Two stargates for MC


10:20

Charge for MC


10:40

Phoenixes for MC
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7914
On July 10 2011 08:07 Imres wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:04 Pyskee wrote:
This Zealot/Archon comp is pretty good. However, I think it's only good because people like MC realize Terrans are going heavy Marauder which have the lowest DPS of any fighting unit in the game against units like Zealots.

Go Marine/Ghost and I'd imagine that would work better. Just IMO.


Archons destroy marines. If you emp sentries/archon, you can almost kite the zeal forever, but when ht comes into play it's harder (more ghosts :D)

True, but maybe what I'm theorycrafting is more like Marine/Maruader/Ghost/Medivac while being on the heavy Marine side, as opposed to the current heavy Marauder style. But yeah, those Archons will still be a problem unless they're taken down mega quick.
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7915
And contained... ouch.
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7916
MC doing a 2 stargate cheese
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7917
Thrown off by stargates. So supply blocks himself and floats 1k.. okay?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7918
lool SelecT's greedy play. Now he doesn't have the army to move out to take the third
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7919
On July 10 2011 08:11 velocityqt wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:10 iamke55 wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:09 Probe1 wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:08 H.k[D] wrote:
econ cheese incoming!



I hate that term. It's just greedy there's nothing cheesy about econ on crevasse..

Econ cheese is still cheese.

how is that "cheese" lol

Can't beat your opponent straight up so you try to gamble your way to getting more units?
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#7920
On July 10 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:11 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:11 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 08:10 Drazerk wrote:
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4:30

Third base for Select

Nexus starting for MC


5:10

Two more gateways for MC


5:50

Robo bay for MC


6:20

Two more barracks and select's first gas


6:50

More gas for Select


7:30

Forge for MC

8:00

Factory for Select

8:10

Stim for Select

8:40

MC going to attack


9:00

Twilight council and a third base for MC


9:40

Combat shield for Select

Two stargates for MC


10:20

Charge for MC


10:40

Phoenixes for MC


11:10

Bio weapons +1 for select

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