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phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 10:46:38
July 09 2011 10:45 GMT
#21441
I was so pumped for this nasl final for the first time me and my younger brother planned to watch it together on our tv, it could have been so epic... but then, so much delay for the first match, idk why would they start without any matches to broadcast. We are from belgium and it was getting late, if nasl had a good production we could have stayed all night long to watch but the we couldn't even bare watching anything before tastosis, maybe some day9 but that was it. I'm really disappointed.
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
July 09 2011 10:47 GMT
#21442
On July 09 2011 19:28 graNite wrote:
When you pay 25$ for a live event, you can expect much more production value.

Is there any statement from nasl management?


then don't buy it and go watch TV .. nobody is interested in any more production QQ
21 is half the truth
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
July 09 2011 10:48 GMT
#21443
here's how bad the NASL is, to put it in perspective

when given the choice between watching slayers`boxer play live or sleep, i chose sleep

have i ever done that in my life? no
aaaaa
Serthius
Profile Joined December 2010
Samoa226 Posts
July 09 2011 10:50 GMT
#21444
On July 09 2011 18:28 thirnaz wrote:
Just saw the gif with zenio not shaking hands, what happened lol?


Looks like Zenio didn't see Incontrol's attempted handshake because he was looking for his opponent.
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
July 09 2011 10:50 GMT
#21445
I agree they need some experts, but that doesn't involve replacing the whole crew, they just need to be trained, its not like nasl is being made by monkeys.
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
July 09 2011 10:50 GMT
#21446
On July 09 2011 19:10 Art_of_Kill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 18:28 zul wrote:
I just saw the Darkforce Winner interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLL6P_AeYEY) and I am so happy he won. ^____________________^

haha, random german comes and demolish a korean progamer who trains 12hours a days =)

very likeable that dude

the power of random germans x)
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Teeko
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1 Post
July 09 2011 10:51 GMT
#21447
tbh i can look past all the flaws in the produciton of the grand finals of NASL... even the sound issues and the interview shambles in between games
it will probably get better eventually ... MLG had its share of problems wich they got over and are now awesome

but what i really cant get over is the observing of the matches ..... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD !!! leave the features alone for once i would rather see what a player is doing with his mutas rather then see a fog of war of what the other dude is seeing also stom zooming around the battlefield like your on crack .. the damn observer seems to be trying to have more APM then the players
HoldenR
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
July 09 2011 10:56 GMT
#21448
On July 09 2011 19:35 WhiteWolfx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 19:31 Chessz wrote:
the problems people are complaining about right now having been consistent almost all season. Look at Jibba's post.

On July 09 2011 19:18 WhiteWolfx wrote:after its all finished and wrapped up, im 100% sure that theyll "pull an mlg" and really improve for their next event at least the stream has been up 100% of the time!!



the only way that's even remotely close to being possible is if they fire their director and producers, audio and video techs and observers and cameramen and their two main casters.

so basically cease being NASL


so what youre saying is that, rather than let them learn from their mistakes and give them a chance to make up for it in season 2 and give us a pristine presentation, you want to completely get rid of them all together?

im thinking that maybe youre single? with no kids? dear god help you if you have kids.


What a condescending prick you are, making gross assumptions about his life because he has an opinion you don't share.

For your information, the NASL isn't children. We cannot expect a child to behave because it's a child, but we can expect a for-profit organization to deliver a quality good. We forgave them when this went wrong initially, but from the very first Idra vs Jinro showmatch, there have been problems every single time. And they aren't different problems each time, they're the damn same problems. Horrible audio configuration, "technical difficulties" at every turn because they just don't seem to test anything, ever.

After two hours of waiting, we got two five minute games, and then a huge break, followed by an extremely poorly performed interview, terrible audio for hours, horrible video, and an observer that makes you want to stop watching. And that was just the first game, these problems continued throughout the entire day.

It is not wrong for people to have expectations of quality from a tournament that costs 25$(from those who got the season pass), or that offer 100.000$ in prizes. They really should have invested that money in more quality control, and instead lowered the prize money. You cannot possibly draw a link to raising children or buying products.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 09 2011 10:58 GMT
#21449
So after the regular season Darkforce beat Sjow, Naniwa and alive. That's pretty good, hope he can win the coinflip against Sen
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
July 09 2011 11:02 GMT
#21450
On July 09 2011 19:35 WhiteWolfx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 19:31 Chessz wrote:
the problems people are complaining about right now having been consistent almost all season. Look at Jibba's post.

On July 09 2011 19:18 WhiteWolfx wrote:after its all finished and wrapped up, im 100% sure that theyll "pull an mlg" and really improve for their next event at least the stream has been up 100% of the time!!



the only way that's even remotely close to being possible is if they fire their director and producers, audio and video techs and observers and cameramen and their two main casters.

so basically cease being NASL


so what youre saying is that, rather than let them learn from their mistakes and give them a chance to make up for it in season 2 and give us a pristine presentation, you want to completely get rid of them all together?

im thinking that maybe youre single? with no kids? dear god help you if you have kids.


MLG fired their tech crew and got experienced people after the Dallas fiasco, and Colombus was much much better because of it
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
July 09 2011 11:09 GMT
#21451
On July 09 2011 20:02 Zeroxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 19:35 WhiteWolfx wrote:
On July 09 2011 19:31 Chessz wrote:
the problems people are complaining about right now having been consistent almost all season. Look at Jibba's post.

On July 09 2011 19:18 WhiteWolfx wrote:after its all finished and wrapped up, im 100% sure that theyll "pull an mlg" and really improve for their next event at least the stream has been up 100% of the time!!



the only way that's even remotely close to being possible is if they fire their director and producers, audio and video techs and observers and cameramen and their two main casters.

so basically cease being NASL


so what youre saying is that, rather than let them learn from their mistakes and give them a chance to make up for it in season 2 and give us a pristine presentation, you want to completely get rid of them all together?

im thinking that maybe youre single? with no kids? dear god help you if you have kids.


MLG fired their tech crew and got experienced people after the Dallas fiasco, and Colombus was much much better because of it


I was about to say the same thing. A politician would be no longer be a politician after a perfomance similar to this one. They are all professionals, at least they should be, since we are paying for it. Therefore they should be compared with professionals, not kids.

A dog craps on the sideways, we can be happy the NASL guys dont do THAT?!
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
July 09 2011 11:09 GMT
#21452
On July 09 2011 19:48 Zanno wrote:
here's how bad the NASL is, to put it in perspective

when given the choice between watching slayers`boxer play live or sleep, i chose sleep

have i ever done that in my life? no


Your loss, I stayed up to 8 am for those games and I don't regret it.

People are being awfully harsh about this. NASL got problems, but tone down on the language, there's no reason to fire the whole crew or insult them personally. I saw good games yesterday and I will be watching again today for sure.

Oh, and "the power of random germans" ^^ I like it.
Icemind
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany570 Posts
July 09 2011 11:11 GMT
#21453
Darkforce our last european hope against the korean onslaught.
Darkforce hwaitiiing! :D (I still feel Morrow would have been better off playing zerg)
freddievercetti
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
224 Posts
July 09 2011 11:12 GMT
#21454
Maybe they can ask MLG(sundance) for some experience in setting up their equipment?
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
July 09 2011 11:13 GMT
#21455
On July 09 2011 20:09 hefty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 19:48 Zanno wrote:
here's how bad the NASL is, to put it in perspective

when given the choice between watching slayers`boxer play live or sleep, i chose sleep

have i ever done that in my life? no


Your loss, I stayed up to 8 am for those games and I don't regret it.

People are being awfully harsh about this. NASL got problems, but tone down on the language, there's no reason to fire the whole crew or insult them personally. I saw good games yesterday and I will be watching again today for sure.

Oh, and "the power of random germans" ^^ I like it.

that's the problem with NASL

they have the best format with the stronger player pool and they're ruining it with horrible production value

they seem to expect to attract sponsors purely on merit of having good games, but the world of money doesn't work that way

try this quick thought experiment

you're a 45 year old business investor who doesn't know ANYTHING about SC

one client shows you IPL, the other shows you NASL

which are you going to fund?
aaaaa
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 09 2011 11:14 GMT
#21456
On July 09 2011 18:13 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:51 Crisco wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:48 twndomn wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sen, Select and Darkforce stemming against the overwhelming Korean wave!
(okay, Select is a Korean as well, but he trains outside of Korea and hence represents the non-Korean professional scene, that's what matters to me)


Select talks with a Korean accent, knows Korean, and obviously still is a citizen of Korea. Americans definitely do not identify themselves with Select based on appearance, they prefer Sheth.


doesn't matter that americans identify themselves or not with select... he represents a non-korean scene... which is a fact


So then Huk represents Korea right?



In my understanding, yes.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 09 2011 11:16 GMT
#21457
On July 09 2011 20:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 18:13 Kiyo. wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:51 Crisco wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:48 twndomn wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:21 JustPassingBy wrote:
Sen, Select and Darkforce stemming against the overwhelming Korean wave!
(okay, Select is a Korean as well, but he trains outside of Korea and hence represents the non-Korean professional scene, that's what matters to me)


Select talks with a Korean accent, knows Korean, and obviously still is a citizen of Korea. Americans definitely do not identify themselves with Select based on appearance, they prefer Sheth.


doesn't matter that americans identify themselves or not with select... he represents a non-korean scene... which is a fact


So then Huk represents Korea right?



In my understanding, yes.

I don't think that's true though. He is a part of the TL community, takes part in TL Attack and State of the Game... that'd make him part of the foreigner scene?
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5843 Posts
July 09 2011 11:18 GMT
#21458
On July 09 2011 20:09 hefty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 19:48 Zanno wrote:
here's how bad the NASL is, to put it in perspective

when given the choice between watching slayers`boxer play live or sleep, i chose sleep

have i ever done that in my life? no


Your loss, I stayed up to 8 am for those games and I don't regret it.

People are being awfully harsh about this. NASL got problems, but tone down on the language, there's no reason to fire the whole crew or insult them personally. I saw good games yesterday and I will be watching again today for sure.

Oh, and "the power of random germans" ^^ I like it.


Good games aren't NASL's saving grace. You saw them thanks to the players who played well despite the organizers who screwed up big time, there's really no denying that. ;;
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
July 09 2011 11:19 GMT
#21459
The whole event looked very amateurish and akward :/
SoulHarvester
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada151 Posts
July 09 2011 11:21 GMT
#21460
I have to say, I really enjoyed NASL over the last few months. A few nights a week really good players competing and really funny commentaries made sitting in front of my screen worthwhile. Now the finals with again really, really great players is in my opinion a bonus and despite the technical problems I enjoyed watching the last night's games. In my opinion NASL should be called the real Global Starcraft League...
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