EPT[VODs] TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open #18 - Page 15
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:03 Nevuk wrote: Polt's builds are always so good and hit at great timing. Polt is such a weird player. He never does anything super flashy or show great micro, macro etc.. he just sort of wins, all the time. When you watch Bomber, Nestea, MC etc.. you get so many 'how is he so good' moments. You never see that from Polt but he play to win and win he does. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38149 Posts
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baoluvboa
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard. There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time. Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:05 lunchforthesky wrote: Polt is such a weird player. He never does anything super flashy or show great micro, macro etc.. he just sort of wins, all the time. When you watch Bomber, Nestea, MC etc.. you get so many 'how is he so good' moments. You never see that from Polt but he play to win and win he does. He could've definitely at least forced a lift on the natural, I think he made some micro and strategic mistakes but that was definitely about the best timing he could've hoped for. (Also a few marauders may have helped, I don't think either player made a single one) edit : He reminds me a lot of Forgg, back when he took out pretty much every large name in BW through just timing attacks in that one msl. | ||
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Kettchup
United States1911 Posts
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote: There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time. Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win. Wait so using non punishing build orders (could call them macro) and not using what the game gave you in term of strategies means honor? Might as well play No rush 10 games custom. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:05 lunchforthesky wrote: Polt is such a weird player. He never does anything super flashy or show great micro, macro etc.. he just sort of wins, all the time. When you watch Bomber, Nestea, MC etc.. you get so many 'how is he so good' moments. You never see that from Polt but he play to win and win he does. Let's ease up on this 'wins all the time' business. Yeah he won the GSL Super and did so fantastically well but he's not infallible nor invincible. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:06 baoluvboa wrote: Bitter and TLO don't really keep up with the Korean scene I guess. They didn't mention that Hack is doing very well in the GSTL right now. I don't know if one match qualifies as doing very well in the GSTL, Taeja got an all-kill as well. Not that it isn't an achievement, but it's still just one match. Lets wait until half way through the season until we can start saying who and who isn't "doing very well in the GSTL". Edit: lol and now they mention it >.> | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote: There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time. Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win. I don't play Zerg, but I'm pretty certain that it is possible to have 2 overloads positioned around an enemy base. That was a crappy way to go out but I hope you can learn from it (not from me because I'm probably wrong) | ||
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PDizzle
Denmark1754 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? you could start by not getting supply blocked 6minutes into the game when protoss army is rolling out | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny: -Blink stalkers -DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss -4 gate nexus cancel -VoidRays On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base). Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard. i dont understand why you wrote it tbh u read him bad thats all he could aswell hide that gateway on the other side of the map doesnt matter.... | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:11 bgx wrote: i dont understand why you wrote it tbh u read him bad thats all he could aswell hide that gateway on the other side of the map doesnt matter.... Scouting and reading ones opponent isn't the same thing. | ||
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BBXX
Poland14 Posts
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote: I Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go? Look at sheth, idra, they keep drone in base so long and keep scouting with lings-poke, overlords on gas... I am just a noob gold zerg but i also struggle with those cheesy protos builds... it is better to make instead of 6 drones 12 speedlings and be safe, hide them and kill those precious sentries on the way or maybe probe/pylon (when they have no stalkers yet). evo chamber is a must, just in case too Congrats anyway, you did in this tournament more than all of nonkoreans  | ||
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