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[VODs] TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open #18 - Page 16

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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
July 02 2011 22:18 GMT
#301
Polt = terran FruitDealer
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#302
On July 03 2011 07:18 rave[wcr] wrote:
Polt = terran FruitDealer

How so lol?
MKP||TSL
drifting1
Profile Joined May 2011
158 Posts
July 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#303
wow those auto turrets turned the battle around
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
July 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#304
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote:
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny:
-Blink stalkers
-DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss
-4 gate nexus cancel
-VoidRays

On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base).
Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.


There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.

Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.


That so-called honor is misguided. Those who think that there is virtue in avoiding one-base play are crippling themselves, by playing just part of the game and not the whole game. There is a difference between those who are learning to play and those at the top of the ladder. When learning to play, there is an advantage in making a tentative agreement not to all-in. The players who have already developed solid mechanics have no use for the agreement.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#305
On July 03 2011 07:19 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:18 rave[wcr] wrote:
Polt = terran FruitDealer

How so lol?

They're both stupidly handsome.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 02 2011 22:20 GMT
#306
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote:
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny:
-Blink stalkers
-DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss
-4 gate nexus cancel
-VoidRays

On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base).
Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.


There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.

Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.


Lol I guess you're from the idra school of thought of please don't attack me for 15 mins and let me macro up to 200 and then we can fight..pretty please?
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 02 2011 22:20 GMT
#307
Shortest Ro4 TL Open ever?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#308
On July 03 2011 07:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:19 mikyaJ wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:18 rave[wcr] wrote:
Polt = terran FruitDealer

How so lol?

They're both stupidly handsome.


If glowing foreheads is your turn on. Sure
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#309
Did MrBitter really just say "Koreaners". Damn.

Cool series though, Polt was realllllly sloppy (it looked like anyway)
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 22:22:36
July 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#310
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote:
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny:
-Blink stalkers
-DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss
-4 gate nexus cancel
-VoidRays

On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base).
Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.


There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.

Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.


pls direct me to this honor based foreign scene so i can stop getting cheesed and 1 based on ladder so much
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#311
On July 03 2011 07:21 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:19 mikyaJ wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:18 rave[wcr] wrote:
Polt = terran FruitDealer

How so lol?

They're both stupidly handsome.


If glowing foreheads is your turn on. Sure


Bro fruitdealer has the sickest looking hair humanly possible.
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
July 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#312
LMAO @ the honor post.

NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#313
On July 03 2011 07:22 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:21 NexUmbra wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:19 mikyaJ wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:18 rave[wcr] wrote:
Polt = terran FruitDealer

How so lol?

They're both stupidly handsome.


If glowing foreheads is your turn on. Sure


Bro fruitdealer has the sickest looking hair humanly possible.


I was talking about polt :p
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
July 02 2011 22:25 GMT
#314
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote:
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny:
-Blink stalkers
-DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss
-4 gate nexus cancel
-VoidRays

On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base).
Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.


There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.

Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.

I'm sorry...but '20 Minutes No Rush' doesn't apply in a tournament.

I also can't tell if you're trolling or being horribly ignorant. A 4gate is a 4gate, if you think foreigners don't 1 base...I don't know what games you've been watching.
the farm ends here
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 02 2011 22:26 GMT
#315
On July 03 2011 07:09 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote:
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny:
-Blink stalkers
-DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss
-4 gate nexus cancel
-VoidRays

On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base).
Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.


There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.

Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.


Wait so using non punishing build orders (could call them macro) and not using what the game gave you in term of strategies means honor?
Might as well play No rush 10 games custom.


That wasn't my point, I think people should play to win.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 02 2011 22:27 GMT
#316
That was pretty embarrassing play from Polt. His execution was off, his micro was sloppy, his openings were relatively uninspired, he didn't play to the strengths of the maps, and his reaction times were sluggish. Hack was solid but by no means impressive; his opponent hung himself.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 02 2011 22:28 GMT
#317
On July 03 2011 07:25 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 07:07 lunchforthesky wrote:
On July 03 2011 07:02 Nerchio wrote:
If you think it's easy to scout but i think it's just people's opinion that usually don't have experience in the game. You need overlords at key locations on the map so you can't send them all around his base at start of the game. First game there was no possibility to scout it because i would need to fly over his whole base which obviously is not easy to do if your opponent is not bronze. Second game i got in with overlord, saw 3 gate and thought it's normal sentry expand. If i turned down - i would see nothing so i would die even harder. What you want me to do? Throw a coin and decide which way to go?
Besides that when i am not able to scout everything perfectly i need to prepare for so many things it's not even funny:
-Blink stalkers
-DT's(you need lair) but it can turn into 4gate archon for which lair is uselss
-4 gate nexus cancel
-VoidRays

On the other hand i have to admit it's not so easy because there is not many players in europe/US with who i could train and would do such strategies(i literally never approached 2 quick void rays from 1 base).
Edit addition: Players outside korea don't hide their tech so easily so when you didn't play koreans a lot you don't know what to expect and scouting that is REALLY hard.


There is a lot more honour amongst foreigners and generally a gentleman's agreement to play straight up most of the time.

Koreans don't believe in any of this and do whatever they think is most likely to win.

I'm sorry...but '20 Minutes No Rush' doesn't apply in a tournament.

I also can't tell if you're trolling or being horribly ignorant. A 4gate is a 4gate, if you think foreigners don't 1 base...I don't know what games you've been watching.


Cheese/one basing is much much less common in the professional EU/NA scene than it is in the Korean scene and as I said above that's not a good thing, people should play to win.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
July 02 2011 22:28 GMT
#318
Hwangsin would've won if he pushed with 3gates of stuff anyway :p
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 02 2011 22:30 GMT
#319
It's so awesome that the Koreans are participating, but it's a little depressing seeing foreigners fall so easily to them. 3/4 Koreans in the top 4 again? ^^

Maybe people will realize just how much harder they have to work.
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
July 02 2011 22:30 GMT
#320
i tohught hwangsin already won a TL open??
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