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On June 26 2011 04:26 NewteN wrote: IDK why the hell MC didn't micro his fn collis??? They just stood there and got stepped on/focused... wtf? APM??!
dreamhuk is going to wreak the field He did? He went 50/50 on his ball of colos. Half went after the chargelots and the other went after Nani's colos.
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On June 26 2011 04:27 FenneK wrote:one thing to improve upon homestory IV: the music tbh i cant think of anything else so they arent doing bad  Well it has been better the last days, but still cant complain
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On June 26 2011 04:26 youngminii wrote:i don't think some people understand the benefit of +2 MC's units Zealots - 16 damage Colossi - 30 damage Naniwa's units Zealots - 20 damage Colossi - 38 damage Archon - 41 damage Considering how many Zealots Naniwa had, oh my GOD lol dunno why you'd transition into DTs though, generally midgame pvp you have 3 options (blink/charge is staple, if you don't have at least one of these you basically auto-lose) continue colossus - make more robos depending on how many bases you have and pump that shit go air - a colossus void ray army will smash a normal colossus army go archon - a colossus archon army will obliterate any air build, but will get owned by pure colossus you also need ups since so many pvp units get huge dps boosts dunno what mc was doing there 
Watch MC vs. Hasu in NASL and you will understand why DTs are awesome in mid and late-game PvP. They also allow for Archons.
What decided this game were the upgrades and the mis-micro by MC.
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On June 26 2011 04:27 FenneK wrote:one thing to improve upon homestory IV: the music tbh i cant think of anything else so they arent doing bad  Actually the music has been more then great for most of the tournament
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On June 26 2011 04:24 AntiGrav1ty wrote:TL forums need a sarcasm sign. So many people not getting stuff in here. It makes me sad 
Because you can't type in different voice tone, so better be clear or misunderstood.
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IDK why the hell MC didn't micro his fn collis??? They just stood there and got stepped on/focused... wtf? APM??!
MC tabbed out at a bad time to look at a picture of Machine eating a burger.
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MC lost on purpose so he can face Idra in loser bracket final! (j/k)
nice win by Naniwa, and deserved aswell... imo played better in all 3 matches
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I don't think anyone is making excuses, despite all the pre-emptive defenders.
Naniwa beat MC in a really close Bo3 and they were all high level games. MC needs to learn to upgrade. It's also the flaw that made him lose to Thorzain in TSL3.
As for the jetlag comment referring to MLG, Idra himself believed it to be true and was telling people that, because apparently MC hadn't even been in Columbus for a day yet when he had to start playing. There is clearly no jetlag in HSC3.
Overall I still think MC is a better player but Naniwa is really close to his level. Training in Korea, I think Naniwa could be at MC's level, and go deep in GSL. I'm quite confident that he can make it into Code S.
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On June 26 2011 04:27 Klosetmonkey wrote: i dont see how people find those games fun, its just build order counters and turtling then 1 fight in middle game over. but thats how pvp works so History and context makes games greater than their content.
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On June 26 2011 04:27 FenneK wrote: one thing to improve upon homestory IV: the music
In comparison to the horrible korean pop-shit aka "music"?
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On June 26 2011 04:25 svi wrote: mc vs naniwa was the only good series so far in this tournament.
all the other series were either bad or just plain low skilled.
I haven't seen every other match, but I cannot accept this has any shred of truth to it. Of the matches I have seen, many have been very good and all have been skilled. There have been a lot of PvP recently, so I hope to see some more high level micro and mind games.
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wow hd pass for 2,50€ now
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On June 26 2011 04:26 Fighter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 04:23 PhyreHazard wrote: Who started all this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ stuff? it's everywhere now lol. I recall people saying that SeleCT started it. Nah it was some EU pro, I believe Beastyqt, who used it in pmuch every IRC channel that he entered, way before SeleCT used it. SeleCT popularized it under the people who don't follow the smaller EU tournaments though. *Not 100% sure about this, might be thinking of something else, but I believe it was like tihs''
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On June 26 2011 04:26 papaz wrote: MC is gonna win this. Callin this now. He gonna go through and come back to beat nani in bo7.
Is there extended series!?!?
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On June 26 2011 04:19 FakeDeath wrote: Nah,MC lost purposely to meet Idra in the loser bracket. lol, like the attitude :p
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On June 26 2011 04:26 morbvs wrote:![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/ats0v5.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bF7umjbOp64/S8aWp2_wZbI/AAAAAAAAACk/0wOidUILIXk/s1600/south_america_brazil_rio_de_janeiro_statue_brazil.jpg) So it is true. Christ has come back to save us from the koreans! :O
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GJ Nani :>
It kind felt like MC isn't used to longer PvPs. Nani had a better mid-lategame build/plan. Still it's just one Bo3, can't draw any conclusions.
Are there more games today?
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On June 26 2011 04:23 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 04:22 razy wrote:On June 26 2011 04:21 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On June 26 2011 04:21 Ludwigvan wrote:On June 26 2011 04:20 nihlon wrote:On June 26 2011 04:20 -Strider- wrote: Naniwa you will be crushed in the bo7 Thanks for that input. jetlag. ;-) lag map imbalance build order loss Race imbalance
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On June 26 2011 04:28 Ahveest wrote: naniwa is the new jesuzzzzz!!!!! I have faith in this one
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On June 26 2011 04:25 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 04:21 anatem wrote: sick series.
boring as hell game 3 though, sit back on two base and let the tech choices made blidnly without any scouting decide the winner irrespective of macro, micro, or positioning. a game that doesn't show anything about the winner unfortunately, i felt a lot better about Nani in game 1 where he outplayed MC as opposed to this crap. Naniwa didn't outplay MC in game one. It was a build order win. That's why PvP is so stupid, most games aren't decided by skill but by which build order you blindly picked, the reason MC is so good in PvP (as opposed to basically anyone else) is that he is able to win often when his build order is worse than the others guys (see game 2 in this series). I agree with you, first game came down to decision making but in the last game Naniwa just out-microed MC tbh.
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