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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6901
On June 26 2011 04:26 NewteN wrote:
IDK why the hell MC didn't micro his fn collis??? They just stood there and got stepped on/focused... wtf? APM??!

dreamhuk is going to wreak the field

He did? He went 50/50 on his ball of colos. Half went after the chargelots and the other went after Nani's colos.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
mambo5
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany84 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6902
On June 26 2011 04:27 FenneK wrote:
one thing to improve upon homestory IV: the music

tbh i cant think of anything else so they arent doing bad

Well it has been better the last days, but still cant complain
MassIncestor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
743 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6903
On June 26 2011 04:26 youngminii wrote:
i don't think some people understand the benefit of +2

MC's units
Zealots - 16 damage
Colossi - 30 damage

Naniwa's units
Zealots - 20 damage
Colossi - 38 damage
Archon - 41 damage

Considering how many Zealots Naniwa had, oh my GOD lol

dunno why you'd transition into DTs though, generally midgame pvp you have 3 options (blink/charge is staple, if you don't have at least one of these you basically auto-lose)
continue colossus - make more robos depending on how many bases you have and pump that shit
go air - a colossus void ray army will smash a normal colossus army
go archon - a colossus archon army will obliterate any air build, but will get owned by pure colossus

you also need ups since so many pvp units get huge dps boosts

dunno what mc was doing there



Watch MC vs. Hasu in NASL and you will understand why DTs are awesome in mid and late-game PvP. They also allow for Archons.

What decided this game were the upgrades and the mis-micro by MC.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6904
On June 26 2011 04:27 FenneK wrote:
one thing to improve upon homestory IV: the music

tbh i cant think of anything else so they arent doing bad

Actually the music has been more then great for most of the tournament
Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6905
On June 26 2011 04:24 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
TL forums need a sarcasm sign. So many people not getting stuff in here. It makes me sad


Because you can't type in different voice tone, so better be clear or misunderstood.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6906
IDK why the hell MC didn't micro his fn collis??? They just stood there and got stepped on/focused... wtf? APM??!


MC tabbed out at a bad time to look at a picture of Machine eating a burger.
nYaLa
Profile Joined January 2011
Uzbekistan295 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6907
MC lost on purpose so he can face Idra in loser bracket final! (j/k)

nice win by Naniwa, and deserved aswell... imo played better in all 3 matches
no
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 19:29:25
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6908
I don't think anyone is making excuses, despite all the pre-emptive defenders.



Naniwa beat MC in a really close Bo3 and they were all high level games. MC needs to learn to upgrade. It's also the flaw that made him lose to Thorzain in TSL3.


As for the jetlag comment referring to MLG, Idra himself believed it to be true and was telling people that, because apparently MC hadn't even been in Columbus for a day yet when he had to start playing. There is clearly no jetlag in HSC3.



Overall I still think MC is a better player but Naniwa is really close to his level. Training in Korea, I think Naniwa could be at MC's level, and go deep in GSL. I'm quite confident that he can make it into Code S.
roosten
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6909
On June 26 2011 04:27 Klosetmonkey wrote:
i dont see how people find those games fun, its just build order counters and turtling then 1 fight in middle game over. but thats how pvp works so

History and context makes games greater than their content.
gehgrfhgrh
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 19:36:05
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6910
On June 26 2011 04:27 FenneK wrote:
one thing to improve upon homestory IV: the music


In comparison to the horrible korean pop-shit aka "music"?

♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥
riboflavin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6911
On June 26 2011 04:25 svi wrote:
mc vs naniwa was the only good series so far in this tournament.

all the other series were either bad or just plain low skilled.



I haven't seen every other match, but I cannot accept this has any shred of truth to it. Of the matches I have seen, many have been very good and all have been skilled. There have been a lot of PvP recently, so I hope to see some more high level micro and mind games.
parker-
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany285 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6912
wow hd pass for 2,50€ now
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6913
On June 26 2011 04:26 Fighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:23 PhyreHazard wrote:
Who started all this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ stuff? it's everywhere now lol.


I recall people saying that SeleCT started it.

Nah it was some EU pro, I believe Beastyqt, who used it in pmuch every IRC channel that he entered, way before SeleCT used it. SeleCT popularized it under the people who don't follow the smaller EU tournaments though. *Not 100% sure about this, might be thinking of something else, but I believe it was like tihs''
It appears I have been chosen.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6914
On June 26 2011 04:26 papaz wrote:
MC is gonna win this. Callin this now. He gonna go through and come back to beat nani in bo7.


Is there extended series!?!?
LeFroMaGe
Profile Joined October 2010
United States628 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6915
On June 26 2011 04:19 FakeDeath wrote:
Nah,MC lost purposely to meet Idra in the loser bracket.

lol, like the attitude :p
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6916
On June 26 2011 04:26 morbvs wrote:
[image loading]


[image loading]

So it is true. Christ has come back to save us from the koreans! :O
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6917
GJ Nani :>

It kind felt like MC isn't used to longer PvPs. Nani had a better mid-lategame build/plan. Still it's just one Bo3, can't draw any conclusions.

Are there more games today?
NotCptKirk
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany165 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6918
On June 26 2011 04:23 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:22 razy wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:21 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:21 Ludwigvan wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:20 nihlon wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:20 -Strider- wrote:
Naniwa you will be crushed in the bo7


Thanks for that input.

jetlag. ;-)

lag

map imbalance


build order loss

Race imbalance
Licit
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan237 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6919
On June 26 2011 04:28 Ahveest wrote:
naniwa is the new jesuzzzzz!!!!!

I have faith in this one
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
June 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#6920
On June 26 2011 04:25 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:21 anatem wrote:
sick series.

boring as hell game 3 though, sit back on two base and let the tech choices made blidnly without any scouting decide the winner irrespective of macro, micro, or positioning. a game that doesn't show anything about the winner unfortunately, i felt a lot better about Nani in game 1 where he outplayed MC as opposed to this crap.


Naniwa didn't outplay MC in game one. It was a build order win. That's why PvP is so stupid, most games aren't decided by skill but by which build order you blindly picked, the reason MC is so good in PvP (as opposed to basically anyone else) is that he is able to win often when his build order is worse than the others guys (see game 2 in this series).

I agree with you, first game came down to decision making but in the last game Naniwa just out-microed MC tbh.
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