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PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
June 18 2011 11:46 GMT
#1661
On June 18 2011 20:43 j4ckd4v13z wrote:
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On June 18 2011 20:41 andis35 wrote:
what else socke could do? his economy is dead only chance is to push right now hoping that opponent has smaler army. dimaga should have expected that and prepared



I think you're missing he was 200/200 yet still loses to a-move


The zerg let him build up a perfect deathball. The brilliance was how quickly Socke got there, by transitioning into a stargate from early gateway pressure, allowed him to build up some voids, while containing the zerg and totally denying infomation. He also forced a few hydras, which Dimaga didn't really want to use by the look of his bane/roach compsition. Socke then took an agressive and somewhat risky third, but that risk paid off massively as he quickly got out a few collossus to complete his ideal army composition.
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
June 18 2011 11:47 GMT
#1662
On June 18 2011 20:45 Spitmode wrote:
does anyone know if they will be showing video of the crowd and the booths etc too? only seeing casters and game sucks imo


The "crowd" is actually about 20 people from what I've seen in a Totalbiscuit footage. You can kinda hear when they are cheering, lol. Not really worth showing imo.
Si vis pacem para bellum
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 11:47 GMT
#1663
On June 18 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 18 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:44 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:39 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two is starting soon on Crevasse

Socke is 1-0 up in the series


In the Bottom left corner is Dimaga

While in the bottom right location is Socke


1:40

Gateway on the way


2:10

Hatch first for Dimaga

Gas going down for Socke


2:50

Pool down for Dimaga

Core going down for Socke


3:50

Second gas on the way for Socke


4:10

Warp gate is being researched

Socke going to harass with a stalker while taking his own expansion


5:00

Zergling speed on the way for Dimaga
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
June 18 2011 11:47 GMT
#1664
Step 1: force 15 lings in the early game that do nothing
Step 2: kill almost all queens to hamper production
Step 3: take easy second, followed by a third before zerg considers a fourth
Step 4: go for superior upgrades, more expensive army, have equal probes to drones before baneling drop that spurs the attack
Step 5: zerg makes 10 banelings and about 30 roaches and the rest lings
Step 6: Protoss wins after engaging in a choke, zerg a-moves while protoss micros to avoid baneling bombs but protoss is easy a-move race. socke's micro not that amazing should have individually moved away each stalker in a perfect star formation while creating a smiley face with forcefields
Step 7: KILL ALL OP PROTOSS BURN DOWN BLIZZARD HQ
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 11:47 GMT
#1665
On June 18 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:44 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:39 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two is starting soon on Crevasse

Socke is 1-0 up in the series


In the Bottom left corner is Dimaga

While in the bottom right location is Socke


1:40

Gateway on the way


2:10

Hatch first for Dimaga

Gas going down for Socke


2:50

Pool down for Dimaga

Core going down for Socke


3:50

Second gas on the way for Socke


4:10

Warp gate is being researched

Socke going to harass with a stalker while taking his own expansion


5:00

Zergling speed on the way for Dimaga


5:50

2 Stargates on the way for Socke while getting his rich gas
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
June 18 2011 11:47 GMT
#1666
God I love Day[9]+Apollo <3
Kevmeister @ Dota2
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 11:47 GMT
#1667
lair for dimaga,

Socke with 2 stargates!!!!!!!!!!!1
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Juke290
Profile Joined March 2011
Egypt316 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1668
Is that a rich vespene gas geyser? I always thought they had made the change to make it a normal gas?
telsek
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 19:08:04
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1669
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1670
Double Stargate for Socke, he loves his phoenixes
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1671
and now a spire from dimaga, not good vs 2 stargate.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1672
On June 18 2011 20:45 Hellshine wrote:
lose 40 probes

a-move

people think its skill

profit


gtfo dude.. Dimaga forced an attack he wasn't at all ready to defend
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1673
On June 18 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 18 2011 20:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:45 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:44 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:39 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two is starting soon on Crevasse

Socke is 1-0 up in the series


In the Bottom left corner is Dimaga

While in the bottom right location is Socke


1:40

Gateway on the way


2:10

Hatch first for Dimaga

Gas going down for Socke


2:50

Pool down for Dimaga

Core going down for Socke


3:50

Second gas on the way for Socke


4:10

Warp gate is being researched

Socke going to harass with a stalker while taking his own expansion


5:00

Zergling speed on the way for Dimaga


5:50

2 Stargates on the way for Socke while getting his rich gas


6:40

Spire going down for Dimaga
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 11:49:34
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1674
Look at it this way: Dimaga was floating 3k minerals and 2k gas when he lost. Socke was at 150 supply after losing 30+ probes. This means they had pretty much the same amount of food in army but Dimaga had most his resources banked. His army was significantly cheaper. Socke should have won that battle and did.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1675
Day9 doesn't know that slow Lings have the same speed as Stalkers .
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 11:49:43
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1676
On June 18 2011 20:42 Dommk wrote:
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On June 18 2011 20:40 Sixes wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:37 Merfyn wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:37 Sixes wrote:
I love the protoss definition of "perfect control" he moved in, poked out for a second and a-moved back in ...


Zerg QQ :D its sooo funny


Meh, deathballs by toss are just really good. I love when toss do amazing FF or blink micro or something but calling an a-move with a slight retreat when he sees a baneling drop "perfect control" is an insult to players like MC and their control.

Except that was very amazing control. Not a single Colossus was able to get sniped, not a single hole in the FF and not a single baneling managed to hit a Stalker. It is about engaging and being able to push before Zerg delays you too much, Socke did that perfectly, Dimaga had to by time but Socke just rolled right through.

Though pretty hilarious Zerg are crying since they have been winning 90% of PvZ's lately


A couple of points:
- Sniping colossi? With the roaches or the lings ? The fact is there are no corruptors present, I wouldn't expect a single colossus to go down when they outrange the roaches 9 to 4. That really is a composition advantage, no some mad micro.
- There actually were holes in the FF but those just allow the Zerg units to trickle in and die better, as long as Zerg can't advance en masse the forcefields are effective. Again though, not exactly perfect control (unlike some things we had seen by MC).
- As for banelings on the stalker, he hit blink once when he saw a cloud of overlords ... I'm pretty sure the ability to blink back the whole stalker army once is something most masters protoss have.

Socke played well by having good upgrades and a very good composition (more importantly Dimaga's composition was severely lacking corruptors or infestors and he was supply capped with a lot of roaches which is always terrible). Let's not get carried away calling his control anything special, let alone perfect.

Again, not discussing balance, just saying the game was not won by some kind of perfect control at the end.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1677
Sucks that only 2 can advance from each group, I am cheering for almost all of these guys.

Bratok/Morrow/Socke/Dimaga/Nightend/Strelok/Ret fighting!
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1678
On June 18 2011 20:45 Spitmode wrote:
does anyone know if they will be showing video of the crowd and the booths etc too? only seeing casters and game sucks imo


On the winterevent, i dont think they showed the crowd until the games where played in DreamArena (which was fullseated)
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#1679
Let me know if anything is missing or if something is listed wrong.

GROUP A:

Results:
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Match 1 results:
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[image loading]Liquid Tyler vs [image loading]Imba FXO Strelok - 1-2
[image loading]Dignitas NaNiwa vs [image loading]Cyber Nation MoMan - 2-0
[image loading]Liquid Ret vs [image loading]SK Jimpo - 2-0
Match 2 results:
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[image loading]Liquid Tyler vs [image loading]Liquid Ret - 0-2
[image loading]Dignitas NaNiwa vs [image loading]SK Jimpo - 2-0
[image loading]Imba FXO Strelok vs [image loading]Cyber Nation MoMan - 2-0
Match 3 results:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Dignitas NaNiwa vs [image loading]Imba FXO Strelok - 2-1
[image loading]Cyber Nation MoMan vs [image loading]Liquid Ret - 2-1
[image loading]SK Jimpo vs [image loading]Liquid Tyler - 2-1
Match 4 results:
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[image loading]Liquid Tyler vs [image loading]Dignitas NaNiwa - 0-2
[image loading]Liquid Ret vs [image loading]Imba FXO Strelok - 2-0
[image loading]Cyber Nation MoMan vs [image loading]SK Jimpo - 0-2


Match 5:
[image loading]Dignitas NaNiwa vs [image loading]Liquid Ret
[image loading]Liquid Tyler vs [image loading]Cyber Nation MoMan
[image loading]Imba FXO Strelok vs [image loading]SK Jimpo


--------------------

GROUP B:

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
Match 1 results:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]Mouz Morrow vs [image loading]mTw DIMAGA - 0-2
[image loading]RoX.KiS BRAT_OK vs [image loading]Fnatic NightEnD - 2-1
[image loading]Alternate Attax Socke vs [image loading]Millenium DieStar - 2-0
Match 2 results:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]Alternate Attax Socke vs [image loading]Mouz Morrow - 2-0
[image loading]mTw DIMAGA vs [image loading]RoX.KiS BRAT_OK - 0-2
[image loading]Millenium DieStar vs [image loading]Fnatic NightEnD - 1-2
Match 3 results:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Mouz Morrow vs [image loading]RoX.KiS BRAT_OK - 1-2
[image loading]mTw DIMAGA vs [image loading]Millenium DieStar - 2-0
[image loading]Fnatic NightEnD vs [image loading]Alternate Attax Socke - 2-1

Match 4:
[image loading]Alternate Attax Socke vs [image loading]mTw DIMAGA - http://www.justin.tv/day9tv#/w/1351557680 1-0
[image loading]Fnatic NightEnD vs [image loading]Mouz Morrow - http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Khaldor 0-0
[image loading]RoX.KiS BRAT_OK vs [image loading]Millenium DieStar - http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SETT TV 0-1


Official results with tables and everything:
On June 18 2011 19:40 miwi wrote:
Official groups and results:
http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 18 2011 11:49 GMT
#1680
that spire's gonna wreck the stargate play lawl
lalala
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