EPTIt will only mean not a lot of people sign up.
and yeh... the spots in NASL season 2 are nice but I still think that you shouldn't have a shot at playing in a big tournament because you paid money.
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
It will only mean not a lot of people sign up. and yeh... the spots in NASL season 2 are nice but I still think that you shouldn't have a shot at playing in a big tournament because you paid money. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On June 22 2011 16:17 csn_JohnClark wrote: actually.. you have a 1/188 chance and if you add in the fact that more then 9/10 of the players in the open bracket are non-pro. A pro who did not participate in the 'League' ,,, but shows up for the Open bracket actually has about the same odds... but only has to play around 8 matches in a week and pay 10 bucks to get there.  You'd only have 2^10 players or 1024 players... or 10 possible matches for the winner | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 22 2011 16:53 Jakkerr wrote: I don't see why you need to have a $10 signup for this, you can 'only' win a $500 'price' and a spot in the tourney which isn't really worth money (assuming the winner of this tourney doesn't actually wins the whole thing :D). It will only mean not a lot of people sign up. and yeh... the spots in NASL season 2 are nice but I still think that you shouldn't have a shot at playing in a big tournament because you paid money. I really don't understand how the entry fee is an issue for people. MLG has a much larger entry fee, and provides no subsidy for travel or accommodation. My understanding is that Dreamhack is predominantly invitation only, and they also don't subsidize participants. If you can find another tournament which will allow you to qualify online, provide you with ANY form of stipend for travel or accommodation, has a prize pool that is more than $20,000, and does not have an entry fee, than maybe I would be able to sympathize. The only one I can think of that comes close is the GSL. And unless you can live in Korea for months on end or place in the top 8 of MLG, you're not going to participate in that tournament. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10954 Posts
Some guys have played over Month's to get there... Just to eventually get kicked out of it in one BO3 to a guy that did not need to commit to the league at all? | ||
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Baituri
Netherlands1501 Posts
On June 22 2011 17:35 Velr wrote: The more i think about this, the less i think giving the Winner a Spot in the Playoffs is "good/ok". Some guys have played over Month's to get there... Just to eventually get kicked out of it in one BO3 to a guy that did not need to commit to the league at all? I have the same feeling about this. It would be like the BYOC winner from Dreamhack will be seeded in the Quarter Finals or something. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 22 2011 14:49 RR2K1 wrote: It's the North American Star League, not the North American Scrub League. Oh sorry, I thought this was the North American Star League. If you don't care enough about SC2 to be able to play on a Wednesday at 1PM, you're not good enough to compete, anyway. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On June 22 2011 14:49 RR2K1 wrote: Oh sorry, I thought this was the North American Star League. oh sorry i thought this was one of the biggest sc2 leagues in the world with the best players in the world. if you cant play at the time nasl has set than you most likely arent good enough to be in it. and if you see this open tournament as your claim to fame, take the time off work. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
Great to see other koreans. The top8 should be deserving. Lets hope for no big bracket fucks or upsets. (I still think it should be double elim or there should be more qualifiers) But ... will there be streams for the qualifier? | ||
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mTwRINE
Germany318 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 22 2011 17:35 Velr wrote: The more i think about this, the less i think giving the Winner a Spot in the Playoffs is "good/ok". Some guys have played over Month's to get there... Just to eventually get kicked out of it in one BO3 to a guy that did not need to commit to the league at all? I think it's okay for Season 1 since it was invitation-only. In future seasons I hope they do not do this because by then anyone would have had a chance to qualify for NASL (via Open or Season 2 Qualifier). But it sucks for Ret.... reward for finishing #1 is a potential date with a GSL Code S Player O_O | ||
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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TaoTeKing
France481 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On June 22 2011 23:32 Xeris wrote: Users can now check-in to the tournament -- check-in button will replace the green 'Join this tournament' button. I'm getting this error: "You do not have admin rights to your team, please contact your team or tournament administrator" | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On June 22 2011 16:17 csn_JohnClark wrote: actually.. you have a 1/188 chance and if you add in the fact that more then 9/10 of the players in the open bracket are non-pro. A pro who did not participate in the 'League' ,,, but shows up for the Open bracket actually has about the same odds... but only has to play around 8 matches in a week and pay 10 bucks to get there. Both of your math logic sucks. Would you say I have a 50/50 chance of beating my 6 year old sister in boxing? Or is this the Dreamhack coin flip tournament version 2.0? | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
I hope this was a mistake because I'm willing to withdraw from the qualifier if not ... | ||
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Sumwar
Canada199 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 22 2011 23:37 nihlon wrote: Both of your math logic sucks. Would you say I have a 50/50 chance of beating my 6 year old sister in boxing? Or is this the Dreamhack coin flip tournament version 2.0? Their math may be off: but it is clear, it is a LOT easier to make it through the NASL than the Open Bracket. Let's assume 256 players... of that, there are 10 top level Korean pros and 20 NA pros. Because of server latency and bad luck let's say each of the Korean Pros has 5% chance of winning (1/20), each of the NA pros has 2.5% chance of winning (1/40). The chance of making grand finals is 1/5, assuming everything equal. And Korean Pros have tended to outperform (Zenio, MC, July, Moon, Boxer all in Finals...), so they would've had a better shot going through the actual tourney. You look at people who didn't make the playoffs: outside of people like Rainbow, a lot of them are people (Tyler, Moonglade, PainUser) whom you wouldn't give a puncher's chance to make through the Open Bracket. If they can't qualify the NASL way, what makes you think they could dominate the Open Bracket? | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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