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We will be moderating harshly in this thread. Think twice before you post. Things we are watching for: image macros, balance whining, "eagles", player bashing etc. We encourage civil and reasoned critique of our moderation - please post it in the website feedback forum.

Please don't complain about MLG stream quality or MLG itself. They work very hard to provide you with an enjoyable service.

Enough with the racism discussions, this is a LR Thread. Cut it out.
-- updated 7:55 KST
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
June 06 2011 07:31 GMT
#28241
bah i think MMA and Losira just got lucky...plus MLG is just a small event
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
June 06 2011 07:35 GMT
#28242
Ahhh, great LOVED this MLG. Even thought my bandwidth usage capped out during the first game of the grand finals, I couldn't be happier. From what I saw, I was completely satisfied. Thank-you Major League Gaming for throwing an amazing tournament! Can't wait for Anaheim.
hi. big fan.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 07:35 GMT
#28243
On June 06 2011 16:26 Kibibit wrote:
Still on the drive home, what was the peak number of stream views?

MLG never say . But it broke records :D
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
June 06 2011 07:36 GMT
#28244
On June 06 2011 16:31 IzieBoy wrote:
bah i think MMA and Losira just got lucky...plus MLG is just a small event


Yea. No.
If MLG is small, what do you consider big?
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Niruz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden169 Posts
June 06 2011 07:37 GMT
#28245
On June 06 2011 16:31 IzieBoy wrote:
bah i think MMA and Losira just got lucky...plus MLG is just a small event

They got lucky they absolutely destroyed everyone else? Yeah sure
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
June 06 2011 07:38 GMT
#28246
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG
Munchkin
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland99 Posts
June 06 2011 07:39 GMT
#28247
On June 06 2011 14:52 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:14 ViZe wrote:
Well in all honesty, I wouldn't be too disapointed in our foreigners. Even if Koreans only eliminated Koreans etc. think about of whom we are speaking. July and LosirA are top 5 zerg in Korea, MC probably the best protoss, and MMA has the potential to be top 5 as well. IdrA tilted terribly in his series versus MC and MMA. NaNiwa was up against perhaps the best ZvP in the world against a player with a new type of strategy, and did fairly well considering this. Thorzain actually would have won his 2nd series vs. MC if it had not been extended.

Honestly if foreigners just put some more time and dedication into the game I'm sure some of them would reach the level that LosirA, MMA, July, and MC are at. Naniwa and ThorZain would easily be Code-S. Other European players such as MorroW, Dimaga, Mana, Whitera, Naama all clearly have a ton of skill at their disposal and just need to devote themselves to the game. IdrA needs to fix his mindset and he would probably be so as well.

Regardless, these are just opinions. I was very impressed with this MLG, and hope the next will be at least as good.


You know, this might sound a bit weird to say but, I'm not sure if the amount of practice and training that the foreigners require to be on par with the Koreans is even worth it. Those guys live in pretty shabby houses without much privacy or peace to themselves and have ridiculous training routines and aren't given a great deal of liberty by their coaches, generally speaking. Is it possible to lead a balanced lifestyle AND be as good as the Koreans are? I'm not so sure.

If you're willing to sacrifice everything just for the sake of SC2, then sure, yeah you can be as good as the Koreans if you train properly... I may be wrong but think about how hard Idra has been training to be roughly on par with the best Koreans, how many other foreigners are willing and capable of going through that?


Is it possible to lead a balanced life style while being a pro nhl hockey player?

Is it possible to lead a balanced life style while being a pro race car driver?

Is it possible to lead a balanced life style while being a pro tennis player?

etc.etc.etc.

I think you get my point.
If you want to be the best in the world at something, it'll take quite a bit of sacrifices.
Cheeser is as cheeser does.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 06 2011 07:42 GMT
#28248
On June 06 2011 16:38 doffe wrote:
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG

I think it's pretty obvious watching the games that the level of play that MMA showed today was leagues ahead of what he showed against Huk

not saying that foreigners can never beat the koreans because obviously they can, but in general skill level they are behind
fartdra
Profile Joined June 2011
92 Posts
June 06 2011 07:42 GMT
#28249
On June 06 2011 16:38 doffe wrote:
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG


mma didn't scout a proxy 4gate and died in 5 min, great build by huk but it doesn't say as much as you want it to. having a nifty proxy build for one game doesn't win a whole tourney
lilledr
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden41 Posts
June 06 2011 07:44 GMT
#28250
On June 06 2011 15:45 sleigh bells wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 15:39 NoahNickels wrote:
On June 06 2011 15:29 GwSC wrote:
On June 06 2011 15:28 alypse wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:47 Bunn wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:39 Golgotha wrote:
can someone help me defend idra on r/starcraft? he needs support during this time but everyone is just bashing him =( why are people so mean? please help me.


I don't hate idra, but watch this video to see why idra is being hated. I'd also hate after that.



ROFL. I just love wheat and day9's expression after the game.


DJ Wheat is just priceless in this
Totally speechless lol


How about the faces of the ENTIRE audience! LOLOL. That guy standing there with his hands on his head sums the whole feeling up. I really hope Idra gets a chance to explain himself. That MMA self destruct of his CC must have been on purpose right? how could you mis-click and then let those tanks get off three shots without stopping them?

wtf why would it be on purpose? MMA played great but also made a bunch of silly mistakes today (not completing a wall-off). and he unsieged right after...pretty sure that was the WTF did i just do, oh no stop! moment. he was probably focusing on a drop or something


You can clearly see that the killing CC was a shift clicked queue so he probly missclicked the CC, and after he had queued unseige and abit move commnand. If you watch the clip again you see, when he moves his army again you see his reaction.

Cause normally you can just right-click the rocks, but if you queue stuff upp you have to a-click the rocks meaning you can acually missclick the CC and kill it.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 07:46 GMT
#28251
On June 06 2011 16:42 fartdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 16:38 doffe wrote:
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG


mma didn't scout a proxy 4gate and died in 5 min, great build by huk but it doesn't say as much as you want it to. having a nifty proxy build for one game doesn't win a whole tourney


Luckily HuK massively outplayed his allin with his fast expand build in game 1 then.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Labil
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 17:27:51
June 06 2011 07:48 GMT
#28252
hoorah
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 06 2011 07:49 GMT
#28253
This is what happens when latency is not involved, koreans win.
Painfck
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands28 Posts
June 06 2011 07:50 GMT
#28254
i loved this mlg. Especially the mc vs idra saga. great series
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
June 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#28255
On June 06 2011 16:42 fartdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 16:38 doffe wrote:
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG


mma didn't scout a proxy 4gate and died in 5 min, great build by huk but it doesn't say as much as you want it to. having a nifty proxy build for one game doesn't win a whole tourney

But it gets you 1-up in a very important bo3. Poor decisions by MMA, not HuK. Give credit where credits due. HuK was the better player that day. It IS something to consider. I agree with a previous poster that MMA looks to have shown considerable improvement since then however.
hi. big fan.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#28256
On June 06 2011 16:46 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 16:42 fartdra wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:38 doffe wrote:
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG


mma didn't scout a proxy 4gate and died in 5 min, great build by huk but it doesn't say as much as you want it to. having a nifty proxy build for one game doesn't win a whole tourney


Luckily HuK massively outplayed his allin with his fast expand build in game 1 then.

And it was still more about MMA playing that horribly than anything else.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#28257
On June 06 2011 16:49 TAMinator wrote:
This is what happens when latency is not involved, koreans win.


Except if your name is Thorzain (TSL vs MC< when MC was in Europe), HuK, IdrA, etc.
Yes the top 10 or so Code S players are a bit ahead of the best foreigners, but they can still take games off them, and the next level down of players are not world's ahead. If that was FOXLyn instead of MMA, I think IdrA probably takes him out. If that was Sangho instead of MC, Naniwa probably takes the win. etc.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
June 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#28258
On June 06 2011 16:48 Labil wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is it possible to lead a balanced life style while being a pro nhl hockey player?

Is it possible to lead a balanced life style while being a pro race car driver?

Is it possible to lead a balanced life style while being a pro tennis player?

etc.etc.etc.

I think you get my point.
If you want to be the best in the world at something, it'll take quite a bit of sacrifices.


That is an absolute joke, being a professional tennis player- and knowing the pratice routine of others, 5 days a week physical training about 2*3 hours. And other times some mental practice and so on, but i still have time for alot of other stuff, i play starcraft 1-2 hours a day for instance, and i seriously think that Starcrat 2 professionals practice alot more then a sport-professional, however, i seriously doubt spending more then 8 hours every day infront of a screen is far from healthy


Then tennis players have it easy. As a pro swimmer at the age of sixteen i had ELEVEN two hour training sets a week. So 6-8 every morning and 17-19 every evening. And that we hadn't even started gym training or mental work.

baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
June 06 2011 07:53 GMT
#28259
On June 06 2011 16:38 doffe wrote:
I just want to point out, to everyone maintaining that foreigners have nothing against Koreans that HuK in the last GSL beat MMA 2-0 in the up and down matches... something to consider. Such a shame huk didnt attend MLG


Huk and Jinro and Idra are basically considered korean players in term of sc2 anyway
x1r0
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 07:54:11
June 06 2011 07:53 GMT
#28260
in many ways a very entertaining event <3
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