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TheNay

Canada29 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21821

I'd really like to see Losira win vs. MC to rebut Idra's claim that zergs are supposed to lose to toss.

Serpico

4285 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21822

On June 06 2011 07:33 Svartstol wrote:

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On June 06 2011 07:29 Munchkin wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:23 Serpico wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:22 Heavenly wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:18 YodaGoneMad wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:06 Fionn wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:05 YodaGoneMad wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:01 DueSs wrote:

On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.

yes.. random koreans. they are random. july, mma, MC, and losira are random koreans. truly random.

gtfo

Since I don't watch Korean SC2 in the middle of the night I have never heard of any of them. They don't stream, they don't do twitter, they are never on any of the SC2 shows, western viewers have no attachment to these players.

Then don't watch?

What do you want? Not let them play because they're better than the players you know? Let Idra win the tournament because he is someone you know?

And Koreans do stream. They do do twitter. Not your fault you don't follow them.

Not in english.

Yes, I wish the biggest Western tournament would not invite any more Koreans. If they want to fly over and own the open bracket with their own money then go for it. But giving them free flight, free hotel, free placement, just so they can sweep the money and kill the western scene, that makes me angry.

Maybe they should take the game seriously if they want to consider themselves pros? The biggest tournament in Korea that has a $25000 monthly prize allows seeds into it from MLG, it is FULLY the fault of the foreigners that they simply are not good enough to take that prize.

LOL you really think foreigners dont take this seriously? ok, so it's either mimic korean's exactly or be called an amateur.

It is well known that prominen foreginer players don't practice as much as even they self feel they should.
Players who we know have admitted this:
- Liquid'Ret
- Liquid'Tyler
- EGiNcontroL
- EGIdra

This is like.. the top of the top of foregin SC2 scene...

I can see why, they are making more money streaming and goofing around in sotg etc than if they where just practising.
I understand that they need to get food on their tables and they really do alot for the esports but practise should be their no1 priority imo.

I'm almost certain idra has said he feels he plays better when he doesnt grind out games practicing. Might have misheard that.

ellirc

Sweden3286 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21823

Aww. MLG should make the finals a FFA. MC vs MMA vs Losira.

obsKura

Ireland1061 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21824

Hmmm... feeling like I'm watching GSL... MMA vs. LosirA casted by Tastosis. ^^
For some reason MLG is not the same without foreigners. 'Don't get me wrong, I love MMA and LosirA but it feels like another GSL.

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21825

On June 06 2011 07:34 DiViD wrote:
Such a good showing from the zergs of this MLG only to have the title go to T/P

WP MMA

Losira can still beat MC...

hitpoint

United States1511 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21826

Oh that was Bo3? Wish they extended the finals matches.

thefreed

United States222 Posts

June 05 2011 22:35 GMT

#21827

On June 06 2011 07:33 maliceee wrote:

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On June 06 2011 07:30 jj33 wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:22 Ryka wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:20 jj33 wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:18 hmmm... wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:14 YodaGoneMad wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:04 mordk wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:00 Genome852 wrote:
MMA did "wall in" with the CC at first. But he made the mistake of not realizing that the CC has a rounded model, even if the grid is a square... so lings just ran by the sides of the CC.

What? Are you implying games aren't worth watching just because of the players' nationality? They aren't "random Koreans" either. So stupid....

Don't reply to these comments.. people watch games for different reasons. I do because I love starcraft, which means I'll be happy to watch koreans at the top if they are truly the best. Other people watch for the hype, and they feel more excited when their homies play. I understand the feelings of many people, although I feel that shouldn't make them miss quality starcraft games.

There is no shortage of quality games, what makes MLG and other tournaments special to me is cheering for personalities I know. Just having random amazing players, that don't speak the language, that are not involved in the western scene (don't stream, don't go on shows, don't contribute) I just don't care about their results.

A korean wins, which one? I certainly don't care, in fact, koreans will take home all the big money, because they are top 3.

bitter foreigner much?

you're a fucking racist.

he absolutely is.

It's not racist to only be interested in watching players you know.

I don't care about watching barcelona vs real madrid in the champions league, but as soon as a british team's involved I will watch!

No he is racist. If Koreans were considered a "white race" he'd have no problem with it.

His whining comes down to racist under the guise of all his other bullshit he's spouting.

Oh and also players he knows? this is a global game, anybody who follows sc2, knows alot of korean players. please.

Youre so wrong. Select isn't "white". Racism has nothing to do with this. I don't agree with him at all, I want Koreans in MLG it made it 50X better, but your statement is inflammatory and false.

Racism and discrimination has something to do with all sports... It's something that increases nationalism, and nations clashing which leads to more racism. It's all in psychology of racism.

It's supposed to make you more proud of your own nation which makes it feel like it's more bonded together and that your a "team" against your opposition.

Which is a roadblock to world peace, and general world togetherness.

Gladiator6

Sweden7024 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21828

On June 06 2011 07:35 MooMooMugi wrote:

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Do you know how hard it is to deal with drops in your main, siege tanks on your 3rd, marines sniping your 4th and still be able to LOGICALLY make the BEST decisions all game long?

Yeah MMA is just sick, I mean if Idra was facing that he would just gg when pool went down. :D

rolfe

United Kingdom1266 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21829

On June 06 2011 07:35 Sideburn wrote:
MMA is The Rocky Terran. You heard it here first.

thats actually a pretty good nickname for him ^^

Mobius_1

United Kingdom2763 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21830

I thought MMA was a goner for sure when he lost his tanks and marines outside Losira's 3rd. Such amazing mixture of solid defense and efficient offense, denying expos, destroying tech and wearing down the muta count!

Boxer has taught his well.

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21831

i think you guys are praising mma a little too much

if it was any other highish level zerg i think mma would have lost

he was caught with ALL of his tanks unsieged TWICE, but losira completely screwed up those engagements

i mean his late game drops were amazing but he was pretty much in a safe position to do those drops

it's another game where one player fucks up rather than one player playing like a boss

StarStruck

25339 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21832

On June 06 2011 07:33 cheesemaster wrote:
so losira plays mc? and then the winner of that plays mma?

Yes.

Cibron

Sweden253 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21833

jawdropping play by MMA. I think I counted 3 drop positions, new expansion and tumor hunting at the same time. Whats his APM!?

EnderCraft

United States1746 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21834

I really hope MMA wins... He needs to be in code S.

Eufouria

United Kingdom4425 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21835

WHAT THE FUCK?
My mind is blown. Why don't more Terrans drop and take out the spawning pool?! It seems so simple, but it gives a reprieve from the relentless aggression that normally picks apart Terrans against muta ling bling.

Fantastic play by MMA, he's a grand master at coming from impossibly far behind in TvZ.

Tuczniak

1561 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21836

Losira played so bad T.T
I wish zerg would be better..

bkrow

Australia8532 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21837

On June 06 2011 07:35 MooMooMugi wrote:

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Do you know how hard it is to deal with drops in your main, siege tanks on your 3rd, marines sniping your 4th and still be able to LOGICALLY make the BEST decisions all game long?

Obviously it is hard; but this whole SC2 is his job.. The time he dedicates to it should allow for the BEST decisions all game long

javy_

United States1677 Posts

June 05 2011 22:36 GMT

#21838

On June 06 2011 07:35 MooMooMugi wrote:

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Do you know how hard it is to deal with drops in your main, siege tanks on your 3rd, marines sniping your 4th and still be able to LOGICALLY make the BEST decisions all game long?

the key mistake was losing that mass of banelings mostly to siege tanks. After the threat of banelings disappeared, MMA went in a sniped the pool; it was all downhill from there.