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fghtuetg
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany65 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21801
MMAs Multitasking is unreal. Drops all over the map... WOW!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21802
On June 06 2011 07:33 Darpa wrote:
is it me or is losiras decision making really awful

Do you know how hard it is to deal with drops in your main, siege tanks on your 3rd, marines sniping your 4th and still be able to LOGICALLY make the BEST decisions all game long?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21803
On June 06 2011 07:12 GwSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:11 Fionn wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:03 Coutcha wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:02 rysecake wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:55 Contagious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:52 Stonedviper wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:36 DizzyDrone wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:35 Stonedviper wrote:
So idra gets into code A now right? will he go or say that korea is unbalanced? I don't think he's the type to go back to the major leagues and would rather stay in the minors and dominate the lower talent.


Idra already said he won't go to Korea, not for code A nor code S. In Korea you basically only play the GSL while there's a lot more oppurtunities in the US and Europe


Yea i wouldn't want to play in the NFL and play for $50,000 when i can dominate the CFL and win the $250 prize pools. The only prize pools worth anything in the US are the MLG overall championship and blizzcon and the koreans will come to win those.

Thats the problem with the north american players, they want to settle for lesser leagues because becoming the best takes too much work.

I think idra doesnt want to go back to korea because he got run out the first time because of his attitude is my guess.

He didn't get run out -.-.. He said the scene is easier to succeed here instead of playing in one hard tournament.


Between NASL, IEM, Dreamhack, and MLG, the prize pool for foreign events is bigger than that of the GSL. Korea has their own smaller tournaments, I realize, but I believe the two scenes are pretty equal in terms of prize pool, and the foreign scene is much easier. It makes a lot more sense to stay in the US, where you were _born_, than to live in a foreign country where you'll probably end up making less money.


Foreigners can say goodbye to easy money. If koreans start invading western lans foreigners are gonna be bankrupt soon.


or learn to be better gamer...


Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


So we just disallow Koreans and crown paper champions?

OH LOOK! IDRA WINS MLG ANAHEIM! HE'S THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

If the Koreans aren't allowed to come, every champion will just be a paper champion that won't be considered the best because of the competition. If the foreigners want to get better, they need to play the best in the world.


Seriously, maybe if Koreans start dominating our tournaments, foreign players will decide to finally practice as well as they do overall.


Cue intrigue's thread..
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21804
MMAs multitasking is so sick.

I can hardly keep up watching all the things he does and he plays like that. Damn so freakin gosu.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21805
On June 06 2011 07:34 Cyanocyst wrote:
I hate MMA. All he does it get behind and Win. TT.


there's a giant warning at the top of this thread, you may want to read that...
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21806
losira vs mc should be..... interesting
NotCptKirk
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany165 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21807
On June 06 2011 07:33 mutton wrote:
Artosis: "Losira was incontrol for a lot of the game..."

So that's why he lost

Actually thought the same. Somewhat hilarious...
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:35:44
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21808
Can't wait for the finals ! :D
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21809
Seriously why is losira throwing units away like that. He didn't do anything like that the whole tournament.. I swear we will hear people conspiracy about 'planning outcomes of games' after that. :x
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21810
On June 06 2011 07:33 Trajan98 wrote:
The stream keeps going back like 15 seconds.. then playing over what i just saw hmmm.


glitch in the matrix. standard.
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21811
It hurts to think that MMA is out of code S after that game where HuK sort of proxy-hided gateways
xilaratu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21812
Dat' MMA. Seriously... that typhon game, wow.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:36:00
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21813
On June 06 2011 07:33 mutton wrote:
Artosis: "Losira was incontrol for a lot of the game..."

So that's why he lost


On June 06 2011 07:33 pdd wrote:
MMA is aMMAzing.....


This is why I love TL.net
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21814
On June 06 2011 07:34 Talin wrote:
MMA is SUCH a powerful player, he's kinda a rough diamond still, but his raw ability dwarfs pretty much any SC2 player I've seen so far.


Completely agree with this. This guy is a legend in the making.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21815
On June 06 2011 07:33 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:13 Seldon wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


That is a terrible attitude. Every time we have an event with Koreans like this the foreigners get better, give it time. Also having Koreans owning is good for the general narrative, it will be more awesome when foreigners start winning.

I'm actually happy that Koreans are owning, it means the game is good and practice matters.


Never happened with Starcraft 1, I don't think it will happen here. Korea is already ahead of the rest of the world, and it will just get worse. We shall see, but I put all my money on the US and EU scenes drying up if Koreans continue to be invited and dominate western tournaments.

Boohoo, can't compete so give up right?

It's a practice and drive mentality and if the gap isn't closed then so be it.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:38:20
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21816
On June 06 2011 07:31 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:27 Azarkon wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:21 Fionn wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:19 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:07 udgnim wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:06 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:01 zerious wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.


That's why the most popular tournament in SC2 is the GSL?



Most popular with Koreans, before SC2 and the western tournaments Starcraft was a tiny niche in the West. Just look at TL, it went from a tiny community where everyone knew everyone else to a destination on the internet. The west got into SC2 because of western players and tournaments.


the West got into SC2 because it's the sequel to SC1


The western scene exploded because western players finally had a chance in competition. When that changes the scene will die.


The foreign scene will never get better if they don't get to play the best.

So you would rather the foreign skill level stay the same than rise higher above by playing Koreans


Meh, it could happen. I could see an argument both ways, actually. Sports (not just eSports) that a country is not good at slowly fades out of popularity in that country, which means less tournaments, which means less skill and talent. It's like a vicious cycle. People like their own country's players. BW never went beyond a niche scene in the West with a viewership in the mere thousands. WC 3, however, had a huge following in Europe because of stars like Grubby.

Which path will SC 2 take? I think it remains to be seen. I don't think we should judge based on one MLG though.

but you have to agree that all these sports nationalistic thing increases clashing between nations and increases discrimination and racism.

Racism breeds ignorance...


Sports have always been nationalistic, starting from the first Olympics games. I think Koreans understand this, as they've always been quite nationalistic in their approach to sports. But a lot of foreigners are seemingly in denial.
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21817
what i dont understand is why did Losira choose this map with such tight corridors?
For the swarm!
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21818
MMA and Boxer from Slayers, too much for Idra and Sen.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
CAPSLOCKED
Profile Joined April 2011
563 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21819
On June 06 2011 07:32 ReacH. wrote:
Wow, Losira has really bad control it seems


Well he's on record saying he picked zerg because they felt like an attack-move race =P

Dear MMA, why do you always fall behind in the early or mid game? Would it just be too unfair if you were level or ahead?!
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
June 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#21820
IF I HAVE TO HEAR THAT FUCKING SONG BY THAT AWFUL BAND IN THAT STUPID BING COMMERCIAL I'M GOING TO KILL A BABY


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