On June 05 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote:
17:00
Gold base for July
Mutas start attacking the gold of MMA
17:00
Gold base for July
Mutas start attacking the gold of MMA
19:00
Another drops in the main snipe the queen
MMA kills the gold base of July
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#15281
On June 05 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:31 Drazerk wrote: [quote] 9:20 Starport is pumping out medivacs for MMA Lair on the way for July 10:00 Baneling nest and roach speed on the way for July 11:00 Drop at the third and main are cleaned up Siege tech on the way for MMA 12:00 Ventral sack on the way for July 12:30 Banelings being produced and sent to the overlords 13:00 Third base for MMA is about to land july looking to attack 14:00 July does amazing drops killing the marines 14:30 More pressure from July MMA is holding it off 15:00 Spire on the way for July Orbital on the way to the gold 17:00 Gold base for July Mutas start attacking the gold of MMA 19:00 Another drops in the main snipe the queen MMA kills the gold base of July | ||
Grettin
42381 Posts
June 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#15282
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
June 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#15283
On June 05 2011 10:36 mholden02 wrote: Wow, Thorzain, playin bad. Hardly playing bad. Both are playing very well. | ||
Mailing
United States3087 Posts
June 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#15284
On June 05 2011 10:36 travis wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:34 Ocedic wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 travis wrote: did artosis seriously just call idra "easily the best foreigner of all time in sc1" oh give me a f'ing break artosis, jesus I didn't really follow the foreign BW scene, so out of curiosity who was better/tied? well, if you're gonna say "best foreigner of all time", you have to include all the players from eras before idra. that list is huge, and some are legendary. you also include players like giyom, elky. furthermore, even when idra was playing, there are players who posted better results in korea (legionnaire for example). and there are foreigners who were as or more feared (mondragon, nony, JF, draco) he's def up there.. but saying he's "easily the best of all time" is ridiculous So what you are saying is that you have no definitive way to determine who the best foreigner was, yet criticize Artosis for having a (albeit biased) opinion? Just let it drop :X | ||
DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15285
dont people watch idra play? NEURALUUUUUU | ||
ComTrav
United States1093 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15286
On June 05 2011 10:37 setzer wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:35 tkRage wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 travis wrote: did artosis seriously just call idra "easily the best foreigner of all time in sc1" oh give me a f'ing break artosis, jesus I'm pretty sure he'd be #1 with a possible consideration for Nony, only because Nony beat him in TSL2... I mean if idra played Grr or Elky who do you think would win? In terms of skill, yeah Idra is the best foreigner to play SC1. If you go by accomplishments though, Grr and Elky far surpass what Idra did. So this is sort of like saying "Flash is better then Boxer." | ||
tkRage
225 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15287
On June 05 2011 10:37 dunc wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:35 tkRage wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 travis wrote: did artosis seriously just call idra "easily the best foreigner of all time in sc1" oh give me a f'ing break artosis, jesus I'm pretty sure he'd be #1 with a possible consideration for Nony, only because Nony beat him in TSL2... I mean if idra played Grr or Elky who do you think would win? Grr would have annihilated Idra. He was never the best foreigner, at any point. lol haters. | ||
Crisco
1170 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15288
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15289
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15290
On June 05 2011 10:37 MoonBear wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:36 MoonBear wrote: On June 05 2011 10:34 MoonBear wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 MoonBear wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 MoonBear wrote: On June 05 2011 10:30 MoonBear wrote: Match 1: MLG` Shakuras Plateau ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2:20 Thorzain with a 2-rax opening, Idra with a hatchery first, and then 12 pool. 3:50 First marines out from Thorzain heads straight to Idra's natural. SCV comes too and drops the bunker. Drones pulled and the dance starts. Spine started. 4:57 Idra putting on a bunker-deny clinic here. Loses a drone and a few lings but kills the SCV making the bunker, forces the cancel and the marines pull back to their base. CC started at Thor's natural. 6:30 Marines enter the natural and are behind the mineral line. Lings spawn and kill the marines. They do however delay mining for a while and prevent a ling attack as they were tied up. 7:20 Forget that, Idra counterattacks with lings and they start work on the few marines killing them. They also work on the SCVs and MULEs at the natural. They're in the main mineral line now and kill several. A hellion finally pops and kills them but ouch. 10:00 Thorzain with double fact, getting Blue Flame. Idra walls of his natural ramp with Evo Chamber, Baneling Nest and... Spire? 11:00 Idra takes a 3rd at 9. Thorzain sees it with hellions but they do nothing. Tanks and Thors being made. First few mutas are out. | ||
st3roids
Greece538 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15291
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Dantat
170 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15292
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15293
On June 05 2011 10:36 travis wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:34 Ocedic wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 travis wrote: did artosis seriously just call idra "easily the best foreigner of all time in sc1" oh give me a f'ing break artosis, jesus I didn't really follow the foreign BW scene, so out of curiosity who was better/tied? well, if you're gonna say "best foreigner of all time", you have to include all the players from eras before idra. that list is huge, and some are legendary. you also include players like giyom, elky. furthermore, even when idra was playing, there are players who posted better results in korea (legionnaire for example). and there are foreigners who were as or more feared (mondragon, nony, JF) he's def up there.. but saying he's "easily the best of all time" is ridiculous I don't think Elky and Grrrr count. They were some of the best players in the world at the time, but the top foreigners at the end of BW were much better than the early foreign pros at their best. There were other good foreigners at the end of brood war that you could make arguments for as the best foreigners of all time. Ret and Nony come to mind. | ||
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15294
On June 05 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:37 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:36 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:35 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:34 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: On June 05 2011 10:32 Drazerk wrote: [quote] 10:00 Baneling nest and roach speed on the way for July 11:00 Drop at the third and main are cleaned up Siege tech on the way for MMA 12:00 Ventral sack on the way for July 12:30 Banelings being produced and sent to the overlords 13:00 Third base for MMA is about to land july looking to attack 14:00 July does amazing drops killing the marines 14:30 More pressure from July MMA is holding it off 15:00 Spire on the way for July Orbital on the way to the gold 17:00 Gold base for July Mutas start attacking the gold of MMA 19:00 Another drops in the main snipe the queen MMA kills the gold base of July 19:30 Baneling speed on the way for July along with his fourth base | ||
Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
June 05 2011 01:38 GMT
#15295
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#15296
On June 05 2011 10:37 tkRage wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:36 travis wrote: On June 05 2011 10:34 Ocedic wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 travis wrote: did artosis seriously just call idra "easily the best foreigner of all time in sc1" oh give me a f'ing break artosis, jesus I didn't really follow the foreign BW scene, so out of curiosity who was better/tied? well, if you're gonna say "best foreigner of all time", you have to include all the players from eras before idra. that list is huge, and some are legendary. you also include players like giyom, elky. furthermore, even when idra was playing, there are players who posted better results in korea (legionnaire for example). and there are foreigners who were as or more feared (mondragon, nony, JF) he's def up there.. but saying he's "easily the best of all time" is ridiculous Can you honestly say that if IdrA and Elky/Giyom/JF/Mondragon played when each was at their prime, that IdrA would lose? This is the classic Flash vs Nada GOAT argument... That's a totally different can of beans all together. I don't know why travis took it in that direction myself. | ||
DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
June 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#15297
On June 05 2011 10:38 ComTrav wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2011 10:37 setzer wrote: On June 05 2011 10:35 tkRage wrote: On June 05 2011 10:33 travis wrote: did artosis seriously just call idra "easily the best foreigner of all time in sc1" oh give me a f'ing break artosis, jesus I'm pretty sure he'd be #1 with a possible consideration for Nony, only because Nony beat him in TSL2... I mean if idra played Grr or Elky who do you think would win? In terms of skill, yeah Idra is the best foreigner to play SC1. If you go by accomplishments though, Grr and Elky far surpass what Idra did. So this is sort of like saying "Flash is better then Boxer." Sorta but at the same time Elky and Grr lived in a completely different world. Koreans didn't dominate. Saying what they accomplished was greater spits in the face of the barriers Idra and the foreign community as a whole faced then | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
June 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#15298
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
June 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#15299
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#15300
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