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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 22:51:05
June 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#10621
On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:

MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional.


I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier.


MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/
And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting.


I seriously don't get why people keep saying it's a bad excuse. It's literally one of the most legitimate excuses for bad play possible. There is firsthand confirmation from the korean translator that is always with the koreans that they were all affected by jet lag and MC was affected the worst. Being professional gamers means that you suddenly don't get jet lag? Or it means that you are supposed to be just good that having your body in a suboptimal state doesn't hamper your performance at all somehow?

Look at prior games of MC versus IdrA. He absolutely crushed him at Dreamhack. IdrA did the same thing there that he did here. IdrA makes excuses for every loss, I have never seen MC whine about a loss and always acknowledges his opponent, but in this case he said that he would not have loss if he wasn't jetlagged.

But of course jet lag doesn't affect performance and it's a "bad excuse".

EDIT: obviously meant for the guy that you quoted, not you.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
June 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#10622
do you really want to be good at creepin'? I dont think so
Do you really want chat rooms?
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
June 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#10623
can someone post the most up to date bracket plz, I can't seem to find it
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Lafingas
Profile Joined August 2010
United States42 Posts
June 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#10624
On June 05 2011 07:48 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:47 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:45 AlBundy wrote:
When will they learn? Against a good zerg you need a SHITTON of turrets in order to be safe.


shit ton of turrets = less units to attack.

read sCfOu interview. in you think he doesn't count as a good player, no interest

Flash says otherwise, I trust Flash.


Marines are much stronger in Sc2 than in BW.


So are turrets
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#10625
Feels so quiet right now!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#10626
On June 05 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is starting on Shukuras plateau

In the Top right position is July

While located in the top left position is Sjow


1:50

Barracks is going down at Sjow's natural


2:10

July is going hatch first


3:00

Bunker is going down at July's natural but no marines are coming


4:00

Command centre and double gas for Sjow


5:00

ling speed on the way for july


6:00

Factory on the way for Sjow

Lair on the way for July
Nurmis
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland81 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10627
On June 05 2011 07:38 aderum wrote:
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On June 05 2011 07:34 rysecake wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:33 Nurmis wrote:
Really happy that Koreans aren't dominating that bad yet. At least foreigners winning some matches! COME ON SJOW 2 - 0!!!

Also hope mlg makes tons of ad revenue from this event


Umm overall the Koreans are like 14-2 no? I'd call that pretty dominating. Someone correct me if my stat is wrong.



well MC lost 2, so it has to be least 14-3 :D


Moon lost to Naniwa 2-0 too. Also Haypro and Incontrol took games off of Losira. Well... its not complete domination!
ThorZaIN | Leenock | Elfi | Dimaga | HayprO | Kas
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10628
sjow so scared of baneling bust lol
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10629
On June 05 2011 07:47 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:46 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:45 AlBundy wrote:
When will they learn? Against a good zerg you need a SHITTON of turrets in order to be safe.


shit ton of turrets = less units to attack.

read sCfOu interview. in you think he doesn't count as a good player, no interest

Flash says otherwise, I trust Flash.

I trust Jaedong so I go 5 hatch hydra in every PvZ...
Paincakez
Profile Joined March 2011
81 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10630
On June 05 2011 07:47 sereniity wrote:
ThorZaIN 1-0 vs Tyler atm, they're not streaming this neither ? aaaaaargh

Man ThorZaiN players scary good. The guy seemed totally invincible in recent TSL. I bet we'l see him in finals.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10631
Can someone link me the thread where the translator talks about jetlag and all ? Missed it
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10632
On June 05 2011 07:50 Tewks44 wrote:
can someone post the most up to date bracket plz, I can't seem to find it


http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10633
On June 05 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is starting on Shukuras plateau

In the Top right position is July

While located in the top left position is Sjow


1:50

Barracks is going down at Sjow's natural


2:10

July is going hatch first


3:00

Bunker is going down at July's natural but no marines are coming


4:00

Command centre and double gas for Sjow


5:00

ling speed on the way for july


6:00

Factory on the way for Sjow

Lair on the way for July


6:30

Blue flame hellions are on the way for Sjow
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10634
On June 05 2011 07:49 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:46 Asshat wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:37 Coolwhip wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:35 Heavenly wrote:

MC was completely jetlagged. Confirmed in thread by the korean translator Milkis who was with them. He was the worst off out of all of them, when Tasteless took a nap inbetween casts, Losira almost fell asleep in his booth, and MMA slept 2 hours inbetween his matches. People who deny jetlag are just being delusional.


I feel bad for defending Idra, but this is such a bad excuse. If these PROFESSIONAL gamers can't play properly because of jetlag, then they should travel earlier.


MC was a last minute replacement bro. Kinda hard to travel earlier when you weren't even supposed to be there in the first place/
And none of them but Moon had experience with that much of a time difference. Losira/July/MMA were hanging out in bonfires the night they flew into the US while Moon was resting.



So according to you this is no indication of Korean - Foreigner difference skill?


Just accept that no matter what people will make excuses for when a foreigner beats a Korean.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
SweetGadgets
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden25 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10635
On June 05 2011 07:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:42 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:41 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:40 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:40 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:39 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:39 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:38 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:38 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:37 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

5:45

Command centre on the way for Sjow


6:45

Banshee on the way for Sjow

Lings run up to his base but are kept back by hellions


8:00

Evo chamber and third base on the way for July


8:20

Hellions and banshee attack and kill a queen before dying


9:00

Spire on the way for July


10:00

Banshee starts attacking drones getting a few kills


10:30

Siege tech finishes for Sjow

Melee and air +1 attack for July


11:00

Mutas have popped out and kill the banshee


12:00

Stim started for Sjow

Missile turrets are up in the mineral lines sending the mutas back


13:00

Fourth base on the way for July with +2 attack

Combat shield started for sjow

Blue and blue
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10636
TeamLiquidnet TeamLiquid
Fenix takes game one over moon #mlg
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10637
On June 05 2011 07:50 Triscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:42 Elvedeta wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:35 Juliette wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:34 rysecake wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:33 Nurmis wrote:
Really happy that Koreans aren't dominating that bad yet. At least foreigners winning some matches! COME ON SJOW 2 - 0!!!

Also hope mlg makes tons of ad revenue from this event


Umm overall the Koreans are like 14-2 no? I'd call that pretty dominating. Someone correct me if my stat is wrong.

5 losses now

nani 2-0 moon
idra 2-0 mc
sjow has 1 on july


In terms of series koreans are 14-2, in terms of games moon lost 3(naniwa and drewbie) MMA lost 1(Sjow),MC lost 3(idra and Tyler),Losira lost 2(incontrol and haypro)


Also keep in mind that this is no coincidence because many of the Koreans are the creme of the crop in Korea. MC, Losira, MMA, July, etc are fantastic players even by Korean standards. They're on the level, or arguably better, than the rest of the world's Naniwas, Idras, etc.

They're going to come to these tournaments and do well. This isn't to detract at all from their accomplishments, either. In fact I'm saying their accomplishments shouldn't be surprising or weird.


Not really surprsing at all that the koreans are dominating mlg. 14-2 so far in SERIES won (not games ) If july wins vs sjow it's going to be 15-2
The Notorious Winkles
KneeDeeP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States256 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10638
On June 05 2011 07:50 WArped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:48 KneeDeeP wrote:
I'm hoping in the future they can smooth out this double stream, kinda pointless to have same game on both streams but still an amazing event so far. Ill purchase HQ stream next time for sure.


Casters need breaks too.


They can stagger in JP and all swap out we have seen them do that before, maybe invite someone like Chill so they have a set of back up casters ready to go. I don't think it would be to difficult.
"the virtuous man is content to dream what a wicked man really does"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 04 2011 22:51 GMT
#10639
On June 05 2011 07:51 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On June 05 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three is starting on Shukuras plateau

In the Top right position is July

While located in the top left position is Sjow


1:50

Barracks is going down at Sjow's natural


2:10

July is going hatch first


3:00

Bunker is going down at July's natural but no marines are coming


4:00

Command centre and double gas for Sjow


5:00

ling speed on the way for july


6:00

Factory on the way for Sjow

Lair on the way for July


6:30

Blue flame hellions are on the way for Sjow


7:30


Baneling nest and spire on the way for July
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
June 04 2011 22:52 GMT
#10640
MLGLee Lee Chen
Hey everyone, we can't join a "random game" in progress. Observer doesn't allow you to do that.


/facepalm
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