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Artrey
Germany270 Posts
For future events, please invite the really good european teams like: Aristeo & Cubert RiChY & Snute kAra & Delphi Lillekanin & Osho Arne & viPro Would be awesome to have a comparison between those dedicated 2v2 teams and 1v1 progamers who play 2v2 only casually. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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PTSL-Ardivan
United States189 Posts
On June 25 2011 15:43 GenoZStriker wrote: Are there any recording for EG vs. VT and PowerTech vs. coL #2? I will make a post when we put all the VODs up. There will be a new section with links in the OP | ||
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kAra
Germany1403 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
On June 25 2011 15:37 Artrey wrote: I liked seeing a 2v2 tournament. :-) For future events, please invite the really good european teams like: Aristeo & Cubert RiChY & Snute kAra & Delphi Lillekanin & Osho Arne & viPro Would be awesome to have a comparison between those dedicated 2v2 teams and 1v1 progamers who play 2v2 only casually. its common knowledge that the best 2v2 teams are north american  even aris/cubert said so | ||
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digiwombat
United States27 Posts
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cubert
Russian Federation94 Posts
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kAra
Germany1403 Posts
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Skillver
Austria1309 Posts
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Skillver
Austria1309 Posts
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JackhammerIV
United Kingdom221 Posts
On June 25 2011 21:21 Skillver wrote: Oh btw: Why this stupid mappool? Why take tarsonis assault into it and twilight? Well two maps were made by prodiG. They tried to do a reddit thing like last month.... http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/hks6s/help_the_ptsl_choose_part_of_our_map_pool/ Few people replied to that. And also how do you define it as "stupid"?? Unless I'm mistaken this is pretty much one of the first dedicated 2v2 tournaments. Or at least one of the first that seems to get more coverage. And the community generally doesn't discuss map imbalances for 2v2. Would be nice to hear what the players think about it. I remember tuning in to ProTech team's audio stream to hear them say the new map created "Deconstructed" feels really long. Probably more construtive to follow the format of that reddit thread. Suggest maps for the future and why. | ||
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Skillver
Austria1309 Posts
Blizzard didnt took out those two maps for random. They had reasons about it and even blogged the reasons. Tarsonis has a wayyyyyy to huge ramp and it is very very hard to defend early allins on seperated bases with this huge ramp. | ||
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JackhammerIV
United Kingdom221 Posts
On June 26 2011 00:11 Skillver wrote: Maybe it would be way better to ask dedicated 2on2 players with different matchups about their opinions about the 2on2 maps, instead of a random reddit followship who play 2v2s just for fun from time to time. Blizzard didnt took out those two maps for random. They had reasons about it and even blogged the reasons. Tarsonis has a wayyyyyy to huge ramp and it is very very hard to defend early allins on seperated bases with this huge ramp. Blizzard has been clear their ladder map pool isn't for competitive play. They asked reddit because this is a new tournament that hasn't been done in SC2 much. And there aren't really many dedicated 2v2 players for teams. How many teams have them....EG, mYm, mouz, perhaps some others. And they commonly play 2v2s in tournaments using Blizzard map pools. And there's little data saying like "On this map TZ beats other race combinations more than 60% of the time at the highest 2v2 level". The map pool seems to be a mix. Some rush favoured with separated players. Also some maps where defending and expanding is easier. Probably aiming for mix of rush and macro maps. Because it's not like it's definitive that players and spectators want to watch macro matches only for 2v2. Early rush tactics in 2v2 are a lot more interesting and exciting to watch than in 1v1. Each pro team will obviously propose maps that favour their team combination. Instead they select some maps and see how the games go. If one map looks bad then they remove it and put in a new map for future tournaments. | ||
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PTSL-Ardivan
United States189 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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Mortal
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McLovin2121
United States2 Posts
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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Aicy.
United Kingdom27 Posts
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