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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#301
I didn't think zergs bothered aiming for late game zvp anymore?
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
May 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#302
On May 20 2011 10:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 10:45 Uhh Negative wrote:
Really not much you can do against sentry/collosus until ultras or broodlords which both kind of suck anyway.

Collo need +light and less base damage. Why blizzard hasn't done this yet is beyond me.


-Better unit composition
-Creep spread
-Drops
-A million other things
-Not nerfing other races


-Having a spire at all
-Attacking with decent positioning
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
May 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#303
On May 20 2011 10:45 Uhh Negative wrote:
Really not much you can do against sentry/collosus until ultras or broodlords which both kind of suck anyway.

Collo need +light and less base damage. Why blizzard hasn't done this yet is beyond me.

that would make collosi even more imba. all u would see is terran going 100% marauder and zerg going 100% roach agianst collosi. and it would make void ray collosi even stronger because the only good anti air units are light.
Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
May 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#304
zzzz he didn't go spire because he was trying to do a roach hydra timing

hate it when people go "OMG WHY DIDNT HE BUILD THE COUNTER TO THE UNIT"

it's because MoMan was trying to dictate the flow of the game but his timing was off.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 20 2011 01:49 GMT
#305
Poor MoMaN, still going roach/hydra

Oh well, go go go go Baguette zerg!
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
May 20 2011 01:49 GMT
#306
Grubby has beaten sjow, demuslim, TLO and so many others... I don't know why he sucks in NASL His pvp is abysmal however.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
May 20 2011 01:49 GMT
#307
On May 20 2011 10:46 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 10:45 Uhh Negative wrote:
Really not much you can do against sentry/collosus until ultras or broodlords which both kind of suck anyway.


How about not make pure Roach/Hydra without trying to drop, make Corrupter, spread creep, and not fight in a choke that cuts you in half with 2 forcefields?

Corrupters just aren't fundamentally good. Protoss can just make 1-2 collosus then switch to immortal and your corruptors are useless until Hive. It's not a good solution to the problem. Of course Moman had a bad position but there's really nowhere you can get a good position against collosus with forcefields.

I guess baneling drop would be good.
Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
May 20 2011 01:49 GMT
#308
Oh Gretorp just said it!
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 20 2011 01:50 GMT
#309
On May 20 2011 10:48 hifriend wrote:
I didn't think zergs bothered aiming for late game zvp anymore?

No they just realised something other than lategame exists.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 20 2011 01:50 GMT
#310
i think totalbiscuit is the type of caster that needs to be on his own.. uninterrupted.. lol.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
May 20 2011 01:50 GMT
#311
I come home, go like yayyy NASL is on and Incontrol is playing. I was getting all warm and excited

and then i heard totalbiscuits voice. god dammit why
Try another route paperboy.
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
May 20 2011 01:50 GMT
#312
> Incontrol playing woo!

>Tune in, sit through the commercial.

>Hear total biscuits voice

>feelsbadman.jpg

User was warned for this post
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 01:51:39
May 20 2011 01:51 GMT
#313
On May 20 2011 10:49 EnderCraft wrote:
Grubby has beaten sjow, demuslim, TLO and so many others... I don't know why he sucks in NASL His pvp is abysmal however.


+1 whenever i watch grubby play he plays really good, dunno wats happening to him in nasl =/

his current record doesnt do him justice tbh but wat can u do
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 20 2011 01:51 GMT
#314
On May 20 2011 10:45 bkrow wrote:
No creep spread
Roach/hydra composition at 200/200
No corruptors against double robo

Moman!?



Well to be fair he was 180 at 12 minutes while iNcontroL was at 110 or so. He had to attack because sitting on 200/200 with roach/hydra while toss has more time to even supply would have been an auto loss.

He would have had to get drop and try and attack without walking. I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked by that game. moman was forced into an attack (80/90 supply ahead at attack) but the toss can block you forever with a t1.5 unit.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 20 2011 01:51 GMT
#315
On May 20 2011 10:50 cca1ss1e wrote:
i think totalbiscuit is the type of caster that needs to be on his own.. uninterrupted.. lol.


Also, in the middle of space.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
May 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#316
On May 20 2011 10:50 Steel wrote:
I come home, go like yayyy NASL is on and Incontrol is playing. I was getting all warm and excited

and then i heard totalbiscuits voice. god dammit why


Same. I decided to watch some NASL tonight and catch the last 3 or so series and I'm like FUUU. Oh well back to what I was doing and hope he goes away.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
May 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#317
On May 20 2011 10:51 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 10:49 EnderCraft wrote:
Grubby has beaten sjow, demuslim, TLO and so many others... I don't know why he sucks in NASL His pvp is abysmal however.


+1 whenever i watch grubby play he plays really good, dunno wats happening to him in nasl =/

his current record doesnt do him justice tbh but wat can u do


It was intentional for the epic Artosis game.

/joking
Love is more fun than hate.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 01:53:09
May 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#318
4gate incoming from iNcontrol; should be interesting.

Moman just pumped like 20 lings and a spine - he knows it's coming
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#319
On May 20 2011 10:48 hifriend wrote:
I didn't think zergs bothered aiming for late game zvp anymore?

Infestor/Brood is stronger than any Protoss deathball

But most Zergs, especially watching sen recently, have been favoring this aggressive Ling/Baneling/Roach comp into Infesotor/Brood. Absolutely DESTROYED Socke when he tried to play against it.
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
May 20 2011 01:52 GMT
#320
On May 20 2011 10:48 pirates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 10:45 Uhh Negative wrote:
Really not much you can do against sentry/collosus until ultras or broodlords which both kind of suck anyway.

Collo need +light and less base damage. Why blizzard hasn't done this yet is beyond me.

that would make collosi even more imba. all u would see is terran going 100% marauder and zerg going 100% roach agianst collosi. and it would make void ray collosi even stronger because the only good anti air units are light.

Well I'm thinking the +light would leave the collosus at the damage they do now. So, in affect it would be a minus armored damage. There is just no reason for a protoss to not make collosus and make a lot of them. The other races don't have a unit that just dominates everything on the ground besides maybe broodlords but broodlords are slower, more vunerable.
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