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EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
December 08 2011 07:47 GMT
#2081
On December 08 2011 16:45 Zzoram wrote:
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On December 08 2011 16:45 EZSkull wrote:
I don't get why something like WCG would use a Bo1 format. I mean, I sort of get it, but it just feels like, hey if you can just take one game off a top level guy, you could advance. It just screams "I got lucky, but I advanced"(with all due respect to all the players)


No, because you still have to be top 2 in your group. You need more than one lucky game to get top 2.


I meant just in the games. But if you can pull one game off guys, and it just happens to be the first one, you have an advantage. I just don't like Bo1s, never have when it comes to something like this.
“I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables. Bob Sapp.” - Sonnen(R)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#2082
Please finish fast LoL, so we can get to the main event please. <-- tired
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#2083
On December 08 2011 16:47 Zzoram wrote:
Idra lost to Killer and Orly? Seriously?

oh really? (lol, had to be said)
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 07:48:53
December 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#2084
On December 08 2011 16:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
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On December 08 2011 16:44 Zzoram wrote:
On December 08 2011 16:43 Packawana wrote:
To be honest, the fact that so many good players are practically dead in the water due to the format basically ensures that Mvp wins.


The format evidently isn't a problem for MVP, because he's good enough to handle any format.


Terran is the race least likely to lose to cheese. Ala, the best BO1 race.

Any proof that the upsets occurred due to cheese? And MVP outclassed his opponents by a mile in his group. No way he was dropping a game to anything ever.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
December 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#2085
I think bo1 would be good format, if we could veto maps, but not being able to veto makes it very random =/
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Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
December 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#2086
Idra lost to Killer :D
SaSe fan club manager
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 07:49:33
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2087
I don't think Bo1 is a huge deal when it comes to groups with 7 people. You have 6 matches to prove yourself. It probably rivals the variance of single elim Bo5's.
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hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2088
On December 08 2011 16:47 Zzoram wrote:
Idra lost to Killer and Orly? Seriously?

Having an off day. It's all it takes to be out of WCG. Listen to Day[9]'s recount of his WCG 05...

F91 and XiGua are bolts from the blue and as a Chinese I feel so happy that finally they get to showcase some skills
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2089
Lol, while BO1 by itself does leave space for lucky wins.. whoever advances does deserve it. They won more games, one doesn't lose 2-3 games in a row only because they were "unlucky".

Format is Ok
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
pre_amp
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia47 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2090
On December 08 2011 16:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:

Terran is the race least likely to lose to cheese. Ala, the best BO1 race.


He's also quite a good player.
yeah zerg, . . .zerg scary
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2091
If IdrA lost (3 times), it had to be cheese!!!!









greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2092
Heh how mad would you be having to play bo1 ZvZ ><
stu >)
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2093
Is the Chinese guy from group H (MacSed) the account Sase was using during his Korean streaming?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2094
KilleR is pretty good. Don't try to discredit him.

You guys should be used to IdrA losing a few games here and there by now.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#2095
Idra's out Titan and Kiler advance
EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
December 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#2096
On December 08 2011 16:46 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 16:45 EZSkull wrote:
I don't get why something like WCG would use a Bo1 format. I mean, I sort of get it, but it just feels like, hey if you can just take one game off a top level guy, you could advance. It just screams "I got lucky, but I advanced"(with all due respect to all the players)

if u are good enough u should just roll lesser opponents like mvp did. losing because of bad luck is an excuse.



Things happen. Plus you have a ton of other factors coming into a Bo1.. like I don't know... MAPS!!!
“I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables. Bob Sapp.” - Sonnen(R)
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
December 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#2097
On December 08 2011 16:45 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 16:45 EZSkull wrote:
I don't get why something like WCG would use a Bo1 format. I mean, I sort of get it, but it just feels like, hey if you can just take one game off a top level guy, you could advance. It just screams "I got lucky, but I advanced"(with all due respect to all the players)


No, because you still have to be top 2 in your group. You need more than one lucky game to get top 2.


Best of 1 format is just bad. Playing against different player you can cheese or whatever and take games off player that are better than you.
Play your best
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
December 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#2098
Also everyone this just just proof that moonglade is the sickest baller on earth
stu >)
Supdude
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
December 08 2011 07:51 GMT
#2099
Are moonglade and F91 advancing from Group A?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 07:52:48
December 08 2011 07:51 GMT
#2100
On December 08 2011 16:50 FakeDeath wrote:
Best of 1 format is just bad. Playing against different player you can cheese or whatever and take games off player that are better than you.

This isn't just best of 1 it's Bo1 in a group stage with 7 people. Of course you can say things such as you aren't used to your opponent as much so you get cheesed easier, but this is actually not argument related to bad format just lack of allround skill. You could for example argue that the format is bad for Idra because he is not good at playing a different player each time. This does not make it a bad format, it makes it a bad format for Idra. Other players will consistently be better in this format.
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