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Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
May 07 2011 02:03 GMT
#281
A foreigner Finals would be absurd: have we even seen a finals with 2 players from the same team? If we haven't seen an IM/IM or oGs/oGs or ST/ST Finals, it seems laughable to be predicting a foreign Finals. In fact, there are only 2 foreigners in Code S period.
IronSlayer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada30 Posts
May 07 2011 02:16 GMT
#282
These definitely look like interesting groups, D and E especially. I'm hoping to see the SlayerS boys, Mvp and Bomber come up, and Rain move back down. Jinro fighting! (and good luck HuK! <3)
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
May 07 2011 02:30 GMT
#283
I think the polls would've been better if worded "Who DOESN'T make it out of the group?" but that's just me.
Macattack1234
Profile Joined March 2011
United States11 Posts
May 07 2011 02:35 GMT
#284
Huk's first post was from on his stream when he plaied and beat IMMVP on ladder. At the beginning of the game he begged MVP to pick him to which MVP repied "No, you gosu". I guess Huk wasn't happy with the group he got but he should have more faith in his abilities. If he beat MVP on ladder (and very decisivly btw in a 25 minute game) he can take MKP and MMA. Those are 2 great players who are very good at PvT but Huk doesn't need to mindset where he is going to beat himself up over this and he will have already lost. Hope Huk will pull it through.
SalsaShark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States56 Posts
May 07 2011 02:48 GMT
#285
Jinro fighting!
the terrans are still beneath me - oGsMC
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
May 07 2011 02:49 GMT
#286
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
May 07 2011 03:01 GMT
#287
On May 07 2011 11:49 dragonblade369 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.



Ladder =/= tournaments.


TheBestfOu was on the top of the ladder ( DOMINATING ) during season 3 and 4, but in GSL he was getting knocked out in rounds of 32( and not like, unlucky loses. He was getting outplayed in every single way).

It's just one example.
http://sc2ranks.com/c/9051/slayersteam/ <-- SlayerS players in Grandmaster !
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
May 07 2011 03:13 GMT
#288
On May 07 2011 12:01 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 11:49 dragonblade369 wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.



Ladder =/= tournaments.


TheBestfOu was on the top of the ladder ( DOMINATING ) during season 3 and 4, but in GSL he was getting knocked out in rounds of 32( and not like, unlucky loses. He was getting outplayed in every single way).

It's just one example.


The whole point of my post is to say that HuK has skill. I clearly stated that he has difficulties in tournaments and he should improve on that. I also said that he will do REALLY well if he can overcome that.

Please read my post carefully

In GSL, it seems that he get outplayed completely and I agree. What I am saying that if he can play tournaments games as well as he plays ladder games, there is no reason why he can NOT stay in code S.
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
May 07 2011 03:15 GMT
#289
On May 07 2011 12:01 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 11:49 dragonblade369 wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.



Ladder =/= tournaments.


TheBestfOu was on the top of the ladder ( DOMINATING ) during season 3 and 4, but in GSL he was getting knocked out in rounds of 32( and not like, unlucky loses. He was getting outplayed in every single way).

It's just one example.


I dont think he was arguing that ladder = tournaments.

His point was ( and I agree) that Huk plays much better on the ladder. Playing on the big stage of the GSL in front of a live audience can put an emence amount of pressure on someone. We haven't seen the skill in the GSL that Huk shows on the ladder. If he can overcome this we'll see an improvement in his play.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
May 07 2011 03:15 GMT
#290
On May 06 2011 23:29 Lann555 wrote:
This system is actually very flawed, because it favors the weakest players in Code S. The winner of Code A will likely pick the two worst players in Code S for an easy route, but then those two weak players get to fight over a spot in next seasons Code S. This probably gives them a better chance of getting back into code S then if they got a random group. Rain actually has a decent shot of making it into Code S again since he only has to take out Rainbow. He wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell in most of the other groups though


This arguement isn't really valid because they have to pick a 4th place and a 3rd place. the 3rd place has already done better than at least 6 other people who are in the up/down and deserve a shot against a 4th place player.

Poor performance shouldn't be rewarded.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
StarcraftKevin
Profile Joined August 2009
United States285 Posts
May 07 2011 03:24 GMT
#291
fuccckkkkkk..... huk..... sorry you're gonna have to move back down to code A
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
May 07 2011 03:37 GMT
#292
On May 07 2011 12:15 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 23:29 Lann555 wrote:
This system is actually very flawed, because it favors the weakest players in Code S. The winner of Code A will likely pick the two worst players in Code S for an easy route, but then those two weak players get to fight over a spot in next seasons Code S. This probably gives them a better chance of getting back into code S then if they got a random group. Rain actually has a decent shot of making it into Code S again since he only has to take out Rainbow. He wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell in most of the other groups though


This arguement isn't really valid because they have to pick a 4th place and a 3rd place. the 3rd place has already done better than at least 6 other people who are in the up/down and deserve a shot against a 4th place player.

Poor performance shouldn't be rewarded.

It's still not a great system, and does encourage the survival of some weaker players. What they should do is pair off all the third and fourth place finishers into groups first, then let the top two from code A pick which groups they want to be in.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 07 2011 03:43 GMT
#293
On May 07 2011 11:49 dragonblade369 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.


huk is very good... but his group is ridiculous
i worry for him here
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
May 07 2011 03:46 GMT
#294
Oh my Huk.
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 07 2011 03:49 GMT
#295
the really bad news for huk isn't just who he's playing against, but that he only has 1 chance and it's not gonna be an easy one regardless of who wins
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
May 07 2011 04:14 GMT
#296
On May 07 2011 12:13 dragonblade369 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 12:01 DirtYLOu wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:49 dragonblade369 wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.



Ladder =/= tournaments.


TheBestfOu was on the top of the ladder ( DOMINATING ) during season 3 and 4, but in GSL he was getting knocked out in rounds of 32( and not like, unlucky loses. He was getting outplayed in every single way).

It's just one example.


The whole point of my post is to say that HuK has skill. I clearly stated that he has difficulties in tournaments and he should improve on that. I also said that he will do REALLY well if he can overcome that.

Please read my post carefully

In GSL, it seems that he get outplayed completely and I agree. What I am saying that if he can play tournaments games as well as he plays ladder games, there is no reason why he can NOT stay in code S.


Ok sorry, miss read that part <3 i guess we are on the same page then :p

On May 07 2011 12:15 AWakefield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 12:01 DirtYLOu wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:49 dragonblade369 wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:02 My_Kaiser wrote:
On May 07 2011 11:01 gideel wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:44 My_Kaiser wrote:
Before GSL May started, poeple said they believed that there will be a foreigner finals, but both get knock out in the first round.
Then they believed that Huk will make it out of his code S group but he fails to.
Now they believe that Huk will get out of his code A group...and I loled.
I dare say there will never be a foreigner finals in GSL this year.


If Huk loses, the chances of a foreigner not getting to the finals is 31/32 -- pretty obvious statement you made don't you think?


It's pretty obvious that Huk will get knock out. Next thing they will say is that they believe Huk will win code A.



Ok. Just curious.. have you been watching HuK's stream? Do you know how many top players he completely smashed on ladder?

I think at this point, his StarCraft skill is kind of indisputable. The only point that he should focus on is how to bring up that skill on a televised match. If you compare his play in GSL and his ladder games, it's like night and day difference.

During his ladder games, he has incredible micro and very good macro. During televised game, he just... idk... chokes? I'd say HuK has great potential. If he, like MC did, overcomes his nerves, he will do great.



Ladder =/= tournaments.


TheBestfOu was on the top of the ladder ( DOMINATING ) during season 3 and 4, but in GSL he was getting knocked out in rounds of 32( and not like, unlucky loses. He was getting outplayed in every single way).

It's just one example.


I dont think he was arguing that ladder = tournaments.

His point was ( and I agree) that Huk plays much better on the ladder. Playing on the big stage of the GSL in front of a live audience can put an emence amount of pressure on someone. We haven't seen the skill in the GSL that Huk shows on the ladder. If he can overcome this we'll see an improvement in his play.



ya ya, i get it now <3<3
http://sc2ranks.com/c/9051/slayersteam/ <-- SlayerS players in Grandmaster !
viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
May 07 2011 04:25 GMT
#297
After every Rain there is a *drumroll* Rainbow!. Sorry MVP i couldnt find a way to put you in the joke
For those who came from nothing, and became something - DGK
PoPcornBoY
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2 Posts
May 07 2011 04:40 GMT
#298
HuK can you atleast stay in Code S. its really frustrating as a fan...
all it takes is a will to win
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
May 07 2011 04:42 GMT
#299
I will note that whenever MKP plays Huk on ladder he does some kind of cheesy all in.

This must be to: a) hide his true strategy b) conceal his fear of Huk c)possibly both.


XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 07 2011 04:54 GMT
#300
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