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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
May 07 2011 13:09 GMT
#321
On May 07 2011 22:03 aoe2fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 21:21 Markwerf wrote:
The way that the code A finalists get to choose two players is kind of silly. They choose in their eyes the two worst players so one of them will always remain code S, which just sucks.
Rain or Rainbow will remain and Lyn or Ensnare will remain... The latter two are alright but rain and rainbow should definately both be out.


Why should Rain be out? He tied one of the finalists 1-1 in his group and was really close to winning 2-0

The thing is that the finalist is the protoss version of Rain.
WriterMaru
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
May 07 2011 13:12 GMT
#322
On May 07 2011 21:21 Markwerf wrote:
The way that the code A finalists get to choose two players is kind of silly. They choose in their eyes the two worst players so one of them will always remain code S, which just sucks.
Rain or Rainbow will remain and Lyn or Ensnare will remain... The latter two are alright but rain and rainbow should definately both be out.

The whole GSL system is just atrocious to be honest. Just have code A finalists automatically place code S and have less up and down groups or something.

Either way Huk is most likely out, sad for him and liquid but I don't think he is even close to code S material. I don't foresee alot of succes for jinro either, he'll have a good chance to stay code S but the strength of the upcoming code S seems to high for him imo.

Honestly I think liquid is better off doing like Idra and just focussing on NA/EU tournaments. Much more chance to make good money. GSL is just having awful payouts for how hard it is, any foreigner getting to the finals is just not going to happen and not getting there has low payoffs.


This happened with Liveforever and san, and you all know how san performed in the following season....
The system works fine, the prize money for winning Code A isn't very large but being able to choose their groups is HUGE
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
May 07 2011 13:13 GMT
#323
I'm really pissed about the MMA MKP HuK group. MMA and MKP are both Code S guys in my opinion (although I didn't watch any MMA series' in Code A). If MKP doesn't make it to Code S I'm gonna be pretty mad. If MMA doesn't make it to Code S I'm gonna be a liitte mad and if HuK doesn't make it... I'm gonna be pretty mad.

Not good.
Apologize.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
May 07 2011 14:13 GMT
#324
Should be "easy" group for MC and Jinro. Gotta say Good bye to HuK though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
May 07 2011 14:28 GMT
#325
Aaarg, too bad to see 3 zergs in the Group F !

Looking forward to see CoCa lose vs Jinro and get an epic Jinro vs Zenio match :D
Meser87
Profile Joined April 2011
United States476 Posts
May 07 2011 14:39 GMT
#326
On May 07 2011 23:28 niilzon wrote:
Aaarg, too bad to see 3 zergs in the Group F !

Looking forward to see CoCa lose vs Jinro and get an epic Jinro vs Zenio match :D


If CoCa loses to Jinro then CoCa plays Zenio not Jinro :D
Uhhmm
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden19 Posts
May 07 2011 15:53 GMT
#327
On May 07 2011 20:47 Eufouria wrote:
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On May 07 2011 16:11 Uhhmm wrote:
On May 07 2011 13:42 procyonlotor wrote:
I will note that whenever MKP plays Huk on ladder he does some kind of cheesy all in.

This must be to: a) hide his true strategy b) conceal his fear of Huk c)possibly both.


Have you seen any of his matches? That's just the way he plays. Not to put him down or anything, I love MKP, but he's not exactly a macro oriented player.

He's not a macro orientated player, but neither is Huk really. MKP does have some of the best macro in code S when he does play macro games, in a long game he would almost certainly out-macro Huk. His only big weakness is he sometimes makes bad decisions with his composition, particularly when he stays with MMM for way too long, which isn't such a big problem against Toss because if you mix in some ghosts and vikings you have a very strong late-game composition.


I know he can macro when he wants to. All I meant was it's normal for MKP to play aggressive and therefore it doesn't make sense to interpret that as him being afraid of HuK.
Aezo-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada378 Posts
May 07 2011 16:48 GMT
#328
Comon Jinro and Huk stay in code S. Huks got a tough game but I think he can pull it off.
NineKOne
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada92 Posts
May 07 2011 17:52 GMT
#329
byebye huk
"It's over 9000!" -V
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 07 2011 19:39 GMT
#330
On May 07 2011 22:03 aoe2fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 21:21 Markwerf wrote:
The way that the code A finalists get to choose two players is kind of silly. They choose in their eyes the two worst players so one of them will always remain code S, which just sucks.
Rain or Rainbow will remain and Lyn or Ensnare will remain... The latter two are alright but rain and rainbow should definately both be out.


Why should Rain be out? He tied one of the finalists 1-1 in his group and was really close to winning 2-0


Did you actually watch his play instead of looking at the results?
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
May 07 2011 20:07 GMT
#331
Who is casting the Up/down matches? Tasteosis made it seem like they wouldn't be casting till the finals last night.
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DrustX
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
May 07 2011 20:19 GMT
#332
Looks like HongUn and Huk are going out.

I'd love to see Bomber tearing it up in Code S, he has shown that he is a a really top tier player. I think he could win a GSL.
DrustX
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
May 07 2011 20:19 GMT
#333
On May 08 2011 05:07 Cyanocyst wrote:
Who is casting the Up/down matches? Tasteosis made it seem like they wouldn't be casting till the finals last night.


Fairly certain it will be moletrap and doa.
aoe2fan
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden700 Posts
May 07 2011 20:41 GMT
#334
On May 08 2011 04:39 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 22:03 aoe2fan wrote:
On May 07 2011 21:21 Markwerf wrote:
The way that the code A finalists get to choose two players is kind of silly. They choose in their eyes the two worst players so one of them will always remain code S, which just sucks.
Rain or Rainbow will remain and Lyn or Ensnare will remain... The latter two are alright but rain and rainbow should definately both be out.


Why should Rain be out? He tied one of the finalists 1-1 in his group and was really close to winning 2-0


Did you actually watch his play instead of looking at the results?


I watched the games and they werent very good but if he doesnt deserve to stay in code s neither does inca who got to the finals the same way that Rain did in season 3.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
May 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#335
On May 08 2011 05:41 aoe2fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 04:39 Scribble wrote:
On May 07 2011 22:03 aoe2fan wrote:
On May 07 2011 21:21 Markwerf wrote:
The way that the code A finalists get to choose two players is kind of silly. They choose in their eyes the two worst players so one of them will always remain code S, which just sucks.
Rain or Rainbow will remain and Lyn or Ensnare will remain... The latter two are alright but rain and rainbow should definately both be out.


Why should Rain be out? He tied one of the finalists 1-1 in his group and was really close to winning 2-0


Did you actually watch his play instead of looking at the results?


I watched the games and they werent very good but if he doesnt deserve to stay in code s neither does inca who got to the finals the same way that Rain did in season 3.

Thing is, Rain cheesed his way almost through the entire GSL season 3.

Inca played mostly standard in the group stages and versus Virus and cleaned up. He only really cheesed against Nada. Inca also has proven himself to be pretty darn strong in PvP. Rain has shown us that when he goes into a macro game he falls apart - when Inca's cheese in game 3 versus Nada failed, he transitioned into a unique build of chargelots, sentries and HTs to stay alive and still win. Inca is much more stable than Rain.
the farm ends here
overshard
Profile Joined November 2010
United States45 Posts
May 08 2011 04:08 GMT
#336
Sadly, HuK is probably back down to Code A.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 08 2011 04:10 GMT
#337
On May 07 2011 22:13 Neo.NEt wrote:
I'm really pissed about the MMA MKP HuK group. MMA and MKP are both Code S guys in my opinion (although I didn't watch any MMA series' in Code A). If MKP doesn't make it to Code S I'm gonna be pretty mad. If MMA doesn't make it to Code S I'm gonna be a liitte mad and if HuK doesn't make it... I'm gonna be pretty mad.

Not good.


Reminds me of an MSL group
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=213263
bellykiller
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
May 08 2011 04:20 GMT
#338
HuK basically was thrown to the wolves :/ I feel sorry for HuK ... I hope he will atleast show this matches weren't so one sided GOOD LUCK HUK ! !!! GOGO
“Warning! Assholes are closer than they appear”
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
May 08 2011 08:04 GMT
#339
On May 08 2011 13:10 fortheGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 22:13 Neo.NEt wrote:
I'm really pissed about the MMA MKP HuK group. MMA and MKP are both Code S guys in my opinion (although I didn't watch any MMA series' in Code A). If MKP doesn't make it to Code S I'm gonna be pretty mad. If MMA doesn't make it to Code S I'm gonna be a liitte mad and if HuK doesn't make it... I'm gonna be pretty mad.

Not good.


Reminds me of an MSL group
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=213263


this is nothing like that. that MSL group is like Nestea/MVP/MC and a solid 4th being in a Code S RO32 group.

this is just a foreigner getting 1 shot to stay in code S but whoever he faces will be a very solid player. anything can happen in a series, and definitely anything can happen in a single game.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
May 08 2011 08:15 GMT
#340
God, HuK is soooo dead

Wish you GL, bro. Maybe you can pull an upset here.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
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