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thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
April 13 2011 04:18 GMT
#4281
After Dreamhack and NASL today has been super awesome. Pretty much everything went as well as you could realistically hope for technically and there were some great games.
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
April 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#4282
Wow that lag just made me feel so sad for Rainbow, it almost irritates me that such a big tournament like this wouldn't give the players an equal opportunity. Something really should have been done and it was obvious something was wrong with rainbow's play if u have seen any previous games from him. Hopefully this doesn't happen to the other korean players.
hi
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
April 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#4283
On April 13 2011 13:15 silentsod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:10 Slayth wrote:
I actually am not motivated to watch the rest of the season after today. Sure it was the first day, but it was still bad in my opinion.


You're entitled to your opinion. Even if it's wrong

The production quality was quite high for a first day of the event. Music and sound level normalization are my biggest gripes production wise.

The commentary I was half a fan of and I hope they improve with time.

I can watch this live and I can't stream at anything above 480p due to my shit internet connection so I am unsure if I'll buy a ticket for this or not. (I can't watch GSL live most days so I buy the ticket for the VoDs).


The actual production values are not bad, but lackluster games and biased commentary as well as constant commercial interruption (I realize you need to make money, but the sheer number of them was a bit out of hand) don't impress me.

NASL is probably something I'll see if I happen to have time, but no way is it worth the ticket price for this level of play.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
April 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#4284
It's not just the Koreans that are off their game, it's everybody who is currently playing from Korea. Artosis will most likely address why he lost and how it was lag-related the next time he casts a tournament.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
JasperGrimm
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:21:30
April 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#4285
On April 13 2011 13:15 Caphe wrote:
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On April 13 2011 13:12 JasperGrimm wrote:
Isnt Morrow also in Korea right now? ...

Hes back in Sweden for the DH Invitational. Did you miss that tourney? Best tourney so far in the West, second world wide just after the GSL.



Yeah unfortunately I had to work Hopefully I can catch some Vods or replays somewhere...
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
April 13 2011 04:20 GMT
#4286
what saro said, basically. If anyone can provide a better way of doing it, I'm sure the NASL team will be all ears.

Honestly though, while the lag was somewhat gamebreaking, it wasn't like morrow was at any point obviously behind and lag saved him. He played perfectly to counter the stuff rainbow was doing, and the lag just made it a little better. There were plenty of mistakes on rainbows end that couldn't be attributed to lag. Opening his wall, cornering his marines etc. As many problems he had that could be attributed to lag, there were problems that couldn't.

So the difference was instead of morrow holding and winning barely, he dominated. Even without lag, it's pretty evident he would have still won.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:21:50
April 13 2011 04:20 GMT
#4287
Games were great for the most part. Casting wasn't bad either - I don't quite get all the hate on Gretorp. As for the lag - yeah it sucks, people warned it would happen, it happened.
boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:22:39
April 13 2011 04:21 GMT
#4288
i felt like i was forcing myself to watch unlike gomtv/tsl when im begging for the next game/round/season.

I dont plan on watching the rest of the action... 25 dollars is a bit much for vods and i cant race home from work to watch daily and i can't stand the 2-3 commercials in between games... i was shown one commercial back-to-back-to-back-to-back.

i was really disappointed with the overall production and the commentating. wheres the pretty overlays? wheres the into videos? wheres the music? wheres any production? the set was pretty blan and the credits had the most production value. The spotter even seemed lazy and i was shocked they would show the in game screen with 12:30 PM showing.

thanks for trying but ill have to check back in a few weeks, hoping for major changes.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
April 13 2011 04:21 GMT
#4289
On April 13 2011 13:19 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:15 silentsod wrote:
On April 13 2011 13:10 Slayth wrote:
I actually am not motivated to watch the rest of the season after today. Sure it was the first day, but it was still bad in my opinion.


You're entitled to your opinion. Even if it's wrong

The production quality was quite high for a first day of the event. Music and sound level normalization are my biggest gripes production wise.

The commentary I was half a fan of and I hope they improve with time.

I can watch this live and I can't stream at anything above 480p due to my shit internet connection so I am unsure if I'll buy a ticket for this or not. (I can't watch GSL live most days so I buy the ticket for the VoDs).


The actual production values are not bad, but lackluster games and biased commentary as well as constant commercial interruption (I realize you need to make money, but the sheer number of them was a bit out of hand) don't impress me.

NASL is probably something I'll see if I happen to have time, but no way is it worth the ticket price for this level of play.


you realize that with the ticket, you get zero commercials? i thought it was fantastic.

one of the few things i had issue with was the biased focus on ONE player. Like in the Grubby matches, where they'd spend 85% of the time looking at Grubby, and the rest of the time looking at Moon
moose...indian
Flanagan
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States166 Posts
April 13 2011 04:21 GMT
#4290
There were a lot of great things to the first day of launch imo. It was kind of ironic that the games seemed to get more and more epic the farther you went in --
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I dunno, I think MorroW doing the baneling bust twice was actually kind of fun, but not as fun as his macro =/

The casting was awesome. The games were awesome. That's like 80% of what makes something really really good imo. But it's short of awesome, in that the lack of music does seem to get to some people (including me), some of the oddness there was to the 2 screens, when it was trying to show the starting guys, and it just didn't work out until the very end, the audio syncing, when Gretorp and iNc were talking was SLIGHTLY off, which annoyed me for some specific reason...

I dunno, when I think of something that has such a huge payoff, something bigger than the GSL, you expect the presentation -- specifically, the music had something to do with the hype. Just personally, it was silent, save for the two talking. Getting those transitions in would do a whole lot of good imo.

Don't get me wrong, today was just awesome. So much fun to watch.
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 13 2011 04:21 GMT
#4291
Are there vods of these matches? I sort of want to see Morrow play -- the baneling busts are seriously epic, and it's good to see zerg be able to punish greed.

Re: all-ins, someone once said that "everyone goes all in at some point; a good player does it when he thinks it will win him the game". Morrow's apparently figured out when he can bust and do damage; can you blame him for seizing those opportunities?
JasperGrimm
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada100 Posts
April 13 2011 04:22 GMT
#4292
I watched the stream from TL.net and I had literally no commercials at all... I dont use ad block or anything like that. Not really sure what people are talking about?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
April 13 2011 04:22 GMT
#4293
gretorps casting was extremely fun and people bashed him for no reason.
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LcrdSnccp
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada21 Posts
April 13 2011 04:24 GMT
#4294
Thank you NASL for such a entertaining show! Keep up the good work, western e-sports hwaiting!!!
boom
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#4295
im sure the nasl has high, high production values and will continue (just as GSL did) to improve upon improving

so far though i'm not exactly impressed with any of the graphics involved with the league haha
i don't mean to be picky, but... even the backdrop is their logo painted on top of... ridges which you can clearly see. it doesn't bother me much personally, but it's just a thought

ii'm looking forward to the rest of the games and everything getting ironed out very soon !
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
MUFFINS1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States533 Posts
April 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#4296
[B]

Honestly though, while the lag was somewhat gamebreaking, it wasn't like morrow was at any point obviously behind and lag saved him. He played perfectly to counter the stuff rainbow was doing, and the lag just made it a little better. There were plenty of mistakes on rainbows end that couldn't be attributed to lag. Opening his wall, cornering his marines etc. As many problems he had that could be attributed to lag, there were problems that couldn't.



When ur lagging u don't really know whats going on and and throws u off ur game rhythm. Also everything has a 1 second delay so the things we were seeing on our screen were different than what rainbow was actually trying to do. Lag screws everything up and u do things u normally wouldn't do out of desperation.
hi
SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
April 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#4297
Awesome first night of NASL. I actually thought everything was great. There's only a couple of things that I wasn't fond of but they're minor details.

- No in-game music: For some reason, I tend to enjoy the games more when there's some form of quiet background music. But this is totally subjective and doesn't even necessarily rely on NASL for fixing it (can always have my own music running at a low volume).

- The jump between sets were really pretty sudden. One moment the commentators are analyzing the previous series, and suddenly the next series is starting. Would definitely like there to be a pause or break of some form so that I can get up, go to the bathroom, grab a snack, etc. Just don't want to miss any of the action.

- Maybe I'm just spoiled by the GSL, but the background that the casters were sitting in front of was kind of dull (of course the GSL having a fancy stage and colored smoke). Would like to see something a bit more vibrant or engaging (definitely loving the intro on that note).

Again, all of these are just minor details and I'm not going to throw a fit if none of them get addressed. I definitely think they could make the production go from good to great though.
Bird up
boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
April 13 2011 04:26 GMT
#4298
On April 13 2011 13:22 JasperGrimm wrote:
I watched the stream from TL.net and I had literally no commercials at all... I dont use ad block or anything like that. Not really sure what people are talking about?


back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back commercials... the same bing or typical ad you see daily but... back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back..

shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
April 13 2011 04:26 GMT
#4299
On April 13 2011 13:21 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:19 Ocedic wrote:
On April 13 2011 13:15 silentsod wrote:
On April 13 2011 13:10 Slayth wrote:
I actually am not motivated to watch the rest of the season after today. Sure it was the first day, but it was still bad in my opinion.


You're entitled to your opinion. Even if it's wrong

The production quality was quite high for a first day of the event. Music and sound level normalization are my biggest gripes production wise.

The commentary I was half a fan of and I hope they improve with time.

I can watch this live and I can't stream at anything above 480p due to my shit internet connection so I am unsure if I'll buy a ticket for this or not. (I can't watch GSL live most days so I buy the ticket for the VoDs).


The actual production values are not bad, but lackluster games and biased commentary as well as constant commercial interruption (I realize you need to make money, but the sheer number of them was a bit out of hand) don't impress me.

NASL is probably something I'll see if I happen to have time, but no way is it worth the ticket price for this level of play.


you realize that with the ticket, you get zero commercials? i thought it was fantastic.

one of the few things i had issue with was the biased focus on ONE player. Like in the Grubby matches, where they'd spend 85% of the time looking at Grubby, and the rest of the time looking at Moon

Also - do you realize how much content you're getting for what $25? It's an insane amount.
Tiorda
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
April 13 2011 04:28 GMT
#4300
Probably answered in here but I'm not sifting through 215 pages...when do Vods go up?
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