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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 13 2011 04:10 GMT
#4241
Overall you have to appreciate how incredible these games were today; Grubby vs Moon was a standout for me and ignoring the lag issues in the last game i am really impressed with the way NASL played out today; and to think how much more there is to come..

The casters will just get so much better overall, NASL - job well done
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
April 13 2011 04:10 GMT
#4242
lol Artosis wins the tournament, wp.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Slayth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
April 13 2011 04:10 GMT
#4243
I actually am not motivated to watch the rest of the season after today. Sure it was the first day, but it was still bad in my opinion.
Fanclubs I'm in: Destiny, EGHuK, EGIdrA, IMNestea, LiquidTLO, LiquidJinro, IMLosira, TypePhoeNix, MvPDongRaeGu, STJuly, WhiteRa. "this is more fucked up than lord of the flies" - Tasteless , "WHEN THERE'S NO INTERNET, LAN ROCKS" - Lim Yo-Hwan
NoahNickels
Profile Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:11:08
April 13 2011 04:10 GMT
#4244
Don't go to the site if you haven't watched the games on the stream, its spoiler mania over there. I hope they put the VODs in a place where you can easily access them without the results spoiled. I dont know about you, but i dont have time to watch 3 hours of starcraft every night, i'll need to catch up on the weekends...
"One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high-powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
April 13 2011 04:10 GMT
#4245
On April 13 2011 13:08 Xaga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:08 acker wrote:
I'm glad this is being casted live instead of replays.

It's not live though... It's pre-recorded =\

Anyway,
Awesome first day of NASL! If things keep up like this, I'm going to be staying up late every night for the next few months watching these games, ha.


but they were CASTED live...

they just showed it to us later
moose...indian
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4246
I think that lag has just made me go onboard with root.Catz, that the scene should probably ignore atleast koreans, since I mean that kind of lag... I don't see how they can look good with it and it's just not appealing to watching morrow win that game just because of lag(i mean he might've taken the game anyway, but rainbow lost simply because of the lag).

Anyway to say again, was fun to watch, NASL seems to be pretty baller, so gj. Again only thing to improve is Gretorps casting, which will happen with time(it's not really bad or anything, just not top notch).
hadoken5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4247
On April 13 2011 13:08 Teim wrote:
Enjoyed the rest of the games. But that last game was just painful to watch. Poor Rainbow trying to micro but no chance with that lag.


I really wish they would have just paused it or just remade the game. I hate 2 rax bunker proxy rushes, but he didn't even have a chance to do any damage with that lag. And it looked like Morrow would have held that anyway.
Euclid
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada126 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4248
NASL = Success! Well done everyone.
Nekemancer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States73 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4249
On April 13 2011 13:07 Gondlem wrote:
Very impressive first day for NASL overall.


I agree, that was pretty good all around. There's plenty of room for improvement for sure, but still, a promising start.
Pretend this quote is meaningful or humorous.
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4250
at the end of the stream i heard something like "and artosis has won the championship" i as not watching at the moment, was that an add or something :S?
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
SaroDarksbane
Profile Joined October 2010
United States55 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4251
I don't really understand the lag whining. NASL has two options:

1. Let foreigners play, knowing that there will be lag.
2. Don't let foreigners play.

Which one of those gives foreigners the better chance at winning the prize money?
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:13:47
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4252
I was very impressed with how smooth the transitions were from game to interview back to the next series. Head and shoulders above other tourneys in that regard.

Edit: >< its casted live but pre-recorded lol. I guess their transitions should be smooth :D Either way I think its great. It gives you a "live" feeling without that weird dead space between games.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4253
On April 13 2011 12:58 Lowspark wrote:
I hope no one reads this as a flame or me being angry, but I have been extremly dissapointed in NASL day one. I am going to list my critics and hopefully NASL will look to change some of these.

1. This is a major tournament, there should not be commercial break in the middle of game analysis. GSL takes breaks after 1 game or 2 games and shows commercials during a break from bothe gameplay and game recap. The fact that after every game Incontrol will say something like "here is where the game was lost" and a commercial starts and when the stream is back they are queing up the next game

2. at least one new caster is needed. I love gretorp as a player, he has a great style and interesting games. He is not a commentator. He gets over excited at points of the game that are insignificant, he emphasizes the wrong things in battle, he has tons of awkward pauses in the middle of sentences and even gives off the wrong information during battles.(one example being in artosis vs sheth where he keeps quoting resources lost, and saying how artosis is loosing more than sheth and the differential stays the same. also in the same series he talks about how effective banelings are against stalkers, and is super suprised when a ton of artosis's stalkers survive)

3. Incontrol is a decent caster, he has charisma and isn't boring. Still he is not the best commentator. For such a large tournament, possibly the biggest and most important in the US, they should have the best casters. MLG had a great lineup, TSL has a great lineup, and NASL has an extremely subpar lineup. How can such a big tournament not feature day9, jp, djwheat, or one of the other big name casters in the US? It just makes no sense to me that you can have such a large tournament and not have good casters. Also, Incontrol does not need to address us as ladies and gentlemen everytime we go into a game.

4. what makes MLG so great? a crowd. what makes the gsl so great? a crown. OSL, MSL, all the major tournaments are casted with a live crowd. So it is different since the US is so large and we don't have one giant gaming center where every team has a house for the players to live. The TSL has made it work fairly well, likely due to the casting changes. If the NASL is going to be completely online, there needs to be a variety of good casters in the rotation and currently it comes back to bad casting.

5. Quality production. While the production is not bad, the studio they are in just looks awkward. Also, jtv is great for streaming and I know tsl is on ustream, but something like the NASL that seems to be something fairly standard and the first season is goign to take 3 months or so, they should use a high quality stream product. MLG uses octoshape, GOMtv has the GOMplayer, NASL should have something too.

6. website. I know a website is coming, but seriously they should have had one up already. No excuses here, same thing with tsl 3. It is stupid and really just careless they dont have one already.

I am still going to watch NASL, but things need to be imporved



1. Something has to pay for that 400k prize pool.

2. Somewhat agreed, but that's also something Gretorp can fix, give him a couple of games more, let's see how his commentating improves

3. When you want to start your own business, you want to make it your own, with your production team and what not, not everything can be done with the big games, you also need to let the small fish swim in the pond.

4. Or they can take the other route, which is content off the games, enough to keep the visitors and followers happy. Writing recaps, doing highlit videos, etc. All that can help to keep an audience glued to your show.

5. Hmmmm, wait, are you a paid subscriber or just another whiner you are not getting 1080p for free? Cough up 25 bucks and see how pretty and smooth NASL looks on 720 and 1080p. It's really surprising production values, given how little we knew before the start of the cast.

6. ... http://nasl.tv/ ... has been up for days, same applies to TSL.
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4254
On April 13 2011 13:08 acker wrote:
I'm glad this is being casted live instead of replays.


This. It just actually shows how much lag does affect the games that replays do NOT really show.
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
April 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#4255
On April 13 2011 13:09 Holgerius wrote:
Except for the lag stuff this was a very nice day 1. T'was a good start for NASL I think.

agreed. the lag was really disappointing but NASL cant prevent it. the production quality, casting, players and their games all exceeded my expectations. look forward to the NASL getting bigger and making improvements. great first day
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
April 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#4256
On April 13 2011 13:06 Jampackedeon wrote:
I can't believe they didnt restart this...


I wanted Rainbow to win, but it's perfectly valid not to restart imo.

1) It's a North American tourney. If you have lag to the NA server, that is beyond the tournament's control.

2) Honestly I don't think lag lost Rainbow that game, or at least you can't say with confidence that if there was no lag, the outcome would've been different.

Great play from Morrow and Fenix today. Fenix especially impressed me with his drop play and siege tank use. I thought he lost game 2 when the DT's warped in, but he kept his cool and did excellent damage control.

I feel a few things need improvement with the NASL, but overall a decent opening.
FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
April 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#4257
MorroW is the first one trick pony I have seen play at a high level with 2 different races with both strong macro and decisive push styles.

Complain about the legit lag that went down in game 2, not about MorroW. Rainbow didnt even have a wall in either game, there wasnt anything to bust, really.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
April 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#4258
4/5 in LB. Sup.

Kiwikaki man , never expected you to lose to Fenix. Will they have VODS or something ? I am missing everything due to my exams.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
kennz
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3 Posts
April 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#4259
Thats just the lag too which doesn't include the delay they experience :<
JasperGrimm
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada100 Posts
April 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#4260
Isnt Morrow also in Korea right now? ...
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