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On April 13 2011 16:40 Toast_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 16:37 Scrandom wrote:
I'm just starting to watch the vods on jtv but it looks like theres only about an hour and a half of replays, is that really all there is? No... (and yeah, kinda embarrassed me cause it took so long to find it) But over on the right there is a part 1, part 2, part 3 button to watch it. The first idra tlo game is in a seperate video, but all the rest of the tourney is in the one long video its just in 3 parts.
ahhh thank you so much, just from watching the first half hour so far this is the best production value I've ever seen for a starcraft 2 tourney
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They mite not drop idra because of sponsors and whatever, but they seriously need to sit him down and work on his attitude towards the game. He should not be martyring to get the game patched his way, instead show the intelligence we all know he has and work out how to effectively beat protoss. I think him and the protosses of EG should sit down and have a 2 day theorycraft and practice to work out ways to beat it, instead of just complaining about how imba the whole thing is and give up.
I would say he shot himself in the foot at DH, he had mc on the ropes a long LONG time and failed to pressure the other bases with small groups to pull the army away.
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I love the fact that this was a 1 day event! Good work from all involved. It was very slick from a e-viewer point of view. And as always, MC the Bonjwa with the win! Crazy to see that cheese win the final game. Much respect to White-Ra and his play too.
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This event was super.
Production value maxed
Casters/host very talented and entertaining
crowd was wild :D
all in all , Hands down the best done live event sofar in sc2
gogo sweden and gogo Dreamhack. we are now expecting one such a event every 2-3 months
<3<3
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Just finished watching the vods, I can't believe MC won on a proxy 2 gate rofl. White-ra scouting the wrong positions was unfortunate too, I guess he didn't know the version they were using was 1v1.
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On April 13 2011 16:25 Zzoram wrote:
MC didn't win with 2 4gates. He did 4gate, 3gate blink (maybe added a 4th gate after), then proxy. It was 3 different builds.
MC wasn't gambling very hard. His proxy 2gate had a better chance to win than his amazing 4gate which is why he opted for the 2gate. He knew that White-Ra was skipping the first zealot in 4 out of 4 of their games that day. White-Ra opened 1 gate core every game as well. The odds of White-Ra doing those two things again were really high. MC chose a build that perfectly counters it. Even if scouted, the pylon was deliberately put OUTSIDE the base so that probes would have to run the long way around to attack it. Gateways have tons of HP and MC was going to be able to chrono out zealots before White-Ra could kill the Gateways. At best, White-Ra would've seen it early enough to get a fast forge or 2nd gateway and try to micro it out. MC has better micro so he still would've had a chance.
Wow, I didn't see that train of thought. Nice one.
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On April 13 2011 14:30 wideye wrote:Show nested quote +MC vs WhiteRa
I honestly believe that WhiteRa can hang with any of the top players in terms of micro, macro and game sense. What's holding him back is the little things such as how to use sentry effectively, or his pylon placements (aka, the infamous game 5). The series should have ended when MC went for the aggressive 4-gate against a narrow ramp map in game 3. What WhiteRa did wrong was his use of sentry to block off the ramp completely so none of MC's army could enter. What he should've done was use a FF to cut off the zealots from the rest of stalker army with this sentry, and continue to snipe off MC's army one by one with more FFs. I mean, he even had an immortal! Instead, WhiteRa kept on blocking off the entry with a FF, letting MC all the time he needs to amass blink stalkers. A good example of this is MC vs San when San went for the early 4-gate and MC defended it with a composition of sentry + stalker + immortal army.
i'm pretty sure, and correct me if i'm wrong, but by the time white.ra cast those FFs you are talking about, MC already had blink. if ra let one zealot in, Mc blinks up and ends the game even quicker. i don't think there was anything ra could have done tactically. build order just lost. [/u]
Cast Force fields prematurely. Though of course that wouldn't have changed anything, since MC had an observer coming in,
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MC is the best player in the world, however White-Ra isn't that far away behind him having less time to practice and he doesn't have such good practice partners aswell. MC's PvP is superior to White-Ra's, but I am not sure if there is someone better in PvT in the whole world than White-Ra including MC. On a whole White-Ra can beat anybody no matter of his style of play, but MC for now is the guy to beat...
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MC goes 4 gate/3gate blink = Shitter, cheesy, bad, can't win standard
White Ra goes 4 gate = OMG AWESOME PLAY
White Ra get lucky probe in to win game 1 = hell yeaaa
MC gets lucky probe in to win game 4 = wow, so lucky :/
Not to mention in TSL...Ra was the first to 4 gate in their series.
Can we stop with the bias now?
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Jinro interview right now on one of sweden's biggest radio stations.
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On April 13 2011 17:51 beetoo wrote:
Jinro interview right now on one of sweden's biggest radio stations.
That was quite fun to hear, almost went wtf - SC2 interview on public radio?
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On April 13 2011 15:27 Mailing wrote:
MC is one of the only players that DOESN'T always play to win.
If you watched his GSL or world all star matches, he literally does STUPID builds and wins anyway with good micro and decision making. He does shit that shouldn't be able to survive basic 4gates, but other people are so afraid to 4gate him (and lose to micro) that he gets away with it and it is fun to watch.
I think he even went robo + templar + expand all at the same time on crossfire against someone, and wins by pulling the other guys army around the map with blink stalkers until his 2base econ kicks in.
He should be allowed to do anything he wants without complaint after that
MC vs Anypro at the GSL WC. That game was utterly hilarious, I was just going to myself "wtf is going on with MC's build" the whole time haha.
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Watched the entire tournament. Excellent organization and production values.
Also around 50K viewers is pretty huge. Really shows that SC2 scene is growing very fast.
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On April 13 2011 17:48 tripper688 wrote:
MC goes 4 gate/3gate blink = Shitter, cheesy, bad, can't win standard
White Ra goes 4 gate = OMG AWESOME PLAY
White Ra get lucky probe in to win game 1 = hell yeaaa
MC gets lucky probe in to win game 4 = wow, so lucky :/
Not to mention in TSL...Ra was the first to 4 gate in their series.
Can we stop with the bias now?
To be fair, in their previous Match in the GSL Wold Championchip,
MC got a lucky probe in the very last game, which managed to plant a pylon next to the ramp
(so that units could be warped in above the ramp)
before being taken down by Whitera's 3 chronoboosted Stalkers.
So I, even though I am a big fanboy of MC, regarded White-ra's lucky probe as kind of poetic justice.
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