EPTThen i look at his group and compare it with Group A and shrug.
Heard he cheese TLO as well so no surprise
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GaryBrackett
Bulgaria106 Posts
Then i look at his group and compare it with Group A and shrug. Heard he cheese TLO as well so no surprise | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:39 Lobo2me wrote: He didn't have to win his group, he could just as easily gone 0-4 and still been in the running. It would be harder (looks like 10 BO3 from worst position in championship loser bracket to winner of tournament), but because he played so well in group play he now only needs to win 3 BO3 to win everything. There was also 6 BO3 in a row needed to get into the group stages, not 8. I meant to say that even after he went and won his open bracket, he still had to go 4-0 to be in the same spot as incontrol. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:39 Lobo2me wrote: He didn't have to win his group, he could just as easily gone 0-4 and still been in the running. I think he didn't mean he had to win the group, just that he did. | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:41 The KY wrote: Is it true that Idra quit a game against HuK when HuK hallucinated a bunch of voids? + Show Spoiler + ..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yep http://pt-br.justin.tv/jabba_sp/b/282868451 + Show Spoiler + BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EDIT: @Lanzal, IdrA was winning. EDIT2: The engagement in question is at 9:30. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:37 imareaver3 wrote: NASL has said that the bottom third (16/50) gets dumped and replaced by players from opens every season. That's better than even GSL, in which a maximum of a fourth of Code S (8/32) can get demoted to Code A each season. Of course there are problems with the first season, but those will be rectified by a few seasons of relegation and promotion from opens. But then the season at the GSL is one month, sometimes with another month between seasons, while NASL is at least 4. It's simply a bad system considering the current inability of judging the good players from the bad, both right now and in a year. | ||
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Lanzal
31 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:41 The KY wrote: Is it true that Idra quit a game against HuK when HuK hallucinated a bunch of voids? + Show Spoiler + ..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Think we need to watch that game before thinking it was a stupid move, maybe he already was heavily in the lead and Idra knew he would lose anyway.. | ||
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Karakaxe
Sweden585 Posts
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overhaul
United Kingdom15 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:42 GaryBrackett wrote: InControl as a #1 seed, surely a joke? Then i look at his group and compare it with Group A and shrug. Heard he cheese TLO as well so no surprise Technically TLO lost because of not scouting 2 proxy pylons. So i dunno about calling that 100% cheese. You play to win. | ||
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UpHeaVaL
Canada57 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:39 Lobo2me wrote: He didn't have to win his group, he could just as easily gone 0-4 and still been in the running. It would be harder (looks like 10 BO3 from worst position in championship loser bracket to winner of tournament), but because he played so well in group play he now only needs to win 3 BO3 to win everything. There was also 6 BO3 in a row needed to get into the group stages, not 8. How did he go 24-0 then? My math sucks but, 6x2=12 4x2=8, 12+8=20....where did the other 4 games come from? | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
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gnutz
Germany666 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:43 Lanzal wrote: Think we need to watch that game before thinking it was a stupid move, maybe he already was heavily in the lead and Idra knew he would lose anyway.. He would have won that fight (and therefore the game). | ||
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AmishNukes
United States98 Posts
Their aren't even "open" players in GSL. (You have to be high on Korean ladder or invited to qualify for code A.) Code A players can't win the Code S tourney in a single season. Nobody says the GSL format isn't fair. MLG requires open bracket players to play 5-6 extra sets against mostly trash players, Top players are basically warming up. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:44 Grettin wrote: Technically TLO lost because of not scouting 2 proxy pylons. So i dunno about calling that 100% cheese. You play to win. Yeah I saw the screenshot from one of the games with the proxy pylon...that's not cheese. It's essentially the same idea as a drop. And if you win from a drop no one is like 'herp you cheesed a better player and won'. TLO should have scouted his own damn base. If you let a probe in and let it build a pylon then don't see it, guess who's fault that is? | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:27 The KY wrote: Well he earned his spot in pool play (well...someone quit and he got bumped up 1 place from 17th seed into 16th) and actually yeah funnily enough people do play a lot different in LAN settings than on the ladder, and Inc has always said he thrives at LAN settings. The point is round robin pool play is a lot better than the old, simpler format for determining better players. You can argue that it's unfair on the players who have to make it through the open bracket first and I would agree, in fact even iNcontroL would agree (on SotG he commented that it's a ridiculous number of games to play and if you win the tournament you're going to spit on the cheque they hand you and just demand a glass of water). But Naniwa, who you used as an example, didn't exactly have to pound through an open bracket full of champions. If your goal is to determine let's say top 4 reasonably accurately, than MLG format is not really good. If there is a week group then winner of that group is automatically top 6. Better format is the standard group->bracket format, where from each group you take top 2-3 and put them into full single/double championship bracket. In that format the players from weaker groups have to still prove themselves before getting to top8/4. And It does still allow for the division into championship and open bracket as was done in MLG so you still keep the advantage of having good matches to cast all the time. | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
Will HuK prove himself and meet IdrA in an epic rematch in the lower bracket? Will Incontrol win a game today? Can Tyler escape the lower bracket? etc.etc. So many epic stories to be told today. I get the feeling though it could be a disappointment, and it may just be a PvT finals with a Naniwa/Dignitas roflstomp. Tbh not a huge a fan of this format, but maybe next MLG will be better. + Show Spoiler + HuK fighting! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43777 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:08 CryMeAReaper wrote: a mix of mediocre pool and a "lucky" (in the sense tlo didnt fucking scout lol and had poorly build to handle the vray) 2-0 over tlo by all ins. Except game one was unorthodox build vs. unorthodox build, and game two wasn't an all-in. People should give iNcontroL some credit -.-' | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
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AmishNukes
United States98 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:47 mcc wrote: If your goal is to determine let's say top 4 reasonably accurately, than MLG format is not really good. If there is a week group then winner of that group is automatically top 6. Better format is the standard group->bracket format, where from each group you take top 2-3 and put them into full single/double championship bracket. In that format the players from weaker groups have to still prove themselves before getting to top8/4. And It does still allow for the division into championship and open bracket as was done in MLG so you still keep the advantage of having good matches to cast all the time. Top 2 from each group should definitely be seeded in the winners bracket. I agree with that completely. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:47 mcc wrote: If your goal is to determine let's say top 4 reasonably accurately, than MLG format is not really good. If there is a week group then winner of that group is automatically top 6. Better format is the standard group->bracket format, where from each group you take top 2-3 and put them into full single/double championship bracket. In that format the players from weaker groups have to still prove themselves before getting to top8/4. And It does still allow for the division into championship and open bracket as was done in MLG so you still keep the advantage of having good matches to cast all the time. That IS what has happened, you get into pool play based on seeds from previous events. They have had to prove themselves. The only weak link in iNcontroL's group which was the topic of discussion was Slush, MAYBE. And Slush is still no slouch. Oh and maybe Mihai but he earned it as well. | ||
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