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Miefer
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan229 Posts
March 27 2011 14:04 GMT
#8401
whats the point of playing this tournement if everybody says that the Koreans would win every game anyway? I mean that there will be latency problems was quite obvious. So how should a foreigner win if everyone says that he cant win in anyway and if so its cause of lag. Also many people who says GoOdy played poorly doesnt know his playstyle.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 27 2011 14:10 GMT
#8402
Will there be any winner interviews this time?
Checkmoica
Profile Joined January 2011
France30 Posts
March 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#8403
ok the VOD's have been removed from Ustream ... WTF ? !! i wanna watch Adelscot Trust his gateway down the other dude's ***** where can i see the games ?? !!
Shit... Forgot my gaz again :/
sluggo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States74 Posts
March 27 2011 14:27 GMT
#8404
there is teamliquid youtube channel where they put up the games. www.youtube.com/teamliquidnet
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
March 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#8405
I'm sad I missed these games

What the hell happen?! This tournament is CRAZY awesome.
Try another route paperboy.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
March 27 2011 14:48 GMT
#8406
On March 27 2011 22:58 VirGin wrote:
Can't understad why people praise goody's style so much >_>

It's got to be the one most boring style to watch I have ever seen. I've never enjoyed watching a goody match.


That's PANZER GENERAL for u!

Goody fighting!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#8407
Wow.. are people really saying Adelscott played well?? Certainly MVP didn't play his best, plus he probably was lagging a bit, but adelscott was pooling 1.3k-2k mins, not macroing AT ALL during battles. Things that demand attention:

-Adelscott's macro was horrendous
-MVP was clearly affected by lag, you can see this clearly when he defends his gold with his stimmed marauders, he barely even microes them, if you've watched the GSL/GSTL you know that MVP is a lot better than this.
-MVP also made some poor decisions, like not upgrading.

All in all. MVP played sub-par, and adding lag to that, he ended up getting beat by Adelscott, who did NOT play well. When he faces another "foreigner" on equal footing, he'll lose if he doesn't practice his macro.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 15:01:51
March 27 2011 15:01 GMT
#8408
On March 27 2011 23:52 mordk wrote:
Wow.. are people really saying Adelscott played well?? Certainly MVP didn't play his best, plus he probably was lagging a bit, but adelscott was pooling 1.3k-2k mins, not macroing AT ALL during battles. Things that demand attention:

-Adelscott's macro was horrendous
-MVP was clearly affected by lag, you can see this clearly when he defends his gold with his stimmed marauders, he barely even microes them, if you've watched the GSL/GSTL you know that MVP is a lot better than this.
-MVP also made some poor decisions, like not upgrading.

All in all. MVP played sub-par, and adding lag to that, he ended up getting beat by Adelscott, who did NOT play well. When he faces another "foreigner" on equal footing, he'll lose if he doesn't practice his macro.



I agree. I was commenting on those exact points during those matches. MVP was absolutely horrible about his upgrades. Even my macro TvP games has significantly more attentiveness to upgrading. The poor macro on Adel's part was made up by his upgrade advantage.

Was still an entertaining series none the less.
underdawg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States399 Posts
March 27 2011 15:05 GMT
#8409
On March 27 2011 18:10 Plague1503 wrote:
Also, on a totally unrelated note, either Husky's always had this good of an understanding of the game but purposely sacrificed some of the analysis for entertainment value, some of Day9 rubbed off on him, or he simply improved as a caster in every way, back from the time everyone (or at least most people) were bashing him for being a "sellout who only does casts for entertainment and provides zero analysis or game knowledge" "couldn't possibly cast TSL3 competently" etc. Be it what it may, I really think he did an absolutely amazing job, as all the casters did.

This tournament is just so good in every way, it's just what I've been waiting for since I started following the SC2 competitive scene.

Mega props to Team Liquid, the players, casters and everyone involved.

husky is actually decent when he talks about the game, which he is forced to do in tournaments. nothing too insightful tho, but he tells you what is happening
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 15:09:01
March 27 2011 15:07 GMT
#8410
On March 27 2011 22:02 SmoKim wrote:
was super high yesterday at TSL3, fitting it is a page 4:20 atm xD

best day of Starcraft 2 so far, i could not believe my high mind o_0 so amazed by our foreigners <3

US, France and Germany fighting :D so hyped for tonight!


lol, same here :D

but we should ask ourselves if its a good idea beeing high when tonight mondragon blows our minds anyway!!! :D
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
March 27 2011 15:17 GMT
#8411
Disappointing to see Ret bounced. He had a HUGE advantage in game 1 but threw it away by not clearing the watch tower, allowing naniwa to see exactly what he was doing and where the drops were coming from. If he'd just pulled back and played macro style like game 2, he'd have rolled.

I think there was a brief window in which he could've broken naniwa's base by reinforcing with speed lings instead of roaches in game 3, but even then it would've been a close thing. Other than that, naniwa just out-played him. I'll never understand why zerg players prefer defending their third up a ramp rather than through the middle, but they always seem to take a third near the opposite natural rather than towards the middle. Especially with the rocks broken down, it seems like a bad plan to me. Well played, naniwa.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
March 27 2011 15:20 GMT
#8412
quite unfortunate. i doubt any koreans are gonna participate in any online from across the world only tournament ever again.
teamblackeye.com ///// http://www.youtube.com/user/gostunv ///// https://twitter.com/forgenjuro
MrJargon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom158 Posts
March 27 2011 15:22 GMT
#8413
excited for today :D

cmon cruncher
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
March 27 2011 15:23 GMT
#8414
On March 28 2011 00:20 gostunv wrote:
quite unfortunate. i doubt any koreans are gonna participate in any online from across the world only tournament ever again.


why not? they play where the money is like any other would do
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 15:26:31
March 27 2011 15:25 GMT
#8415
On March 27 2011 21:35 Crt wrote:
watched all the games and concluded that

1. koreans lost because of latency/lags issues.
2 the reason the games were close was because the koreans were so good that they're still able to macro/micro with huge bricks on their feets
3. foreigners are huge biasers, when they won, they claimed it's skills, when they played on a server half a world away and lost, they claimed it's lag. they even moved to korea to play and practice to eliminate the lag issue, yet denied it totally when they won because of unfair advantage.
4. koreans don't whine.
5. foreigners, especially the bias blind fans.... are yikeee...

sickening...

When Jinro/Huk tell me it's not the lag, I believe them. When Koreans get super-far behind econ-wise and then lose because their armies are smaller, it's not lag.

I don't doubt that lag is an issue, but MC didn't seem to mind.

I think the Koreans lost because they didn't prepare for these matches like they would've for GLS matches. They saw Ace, Moon, and Squirtle wreck all the white guys at IEM and concluded they would do the same. (You know, just like 90% of the "biased foreigners" who did Liquibet and the bracket contest.) I don't think anyone is saying that Addelscott is better than MVP or whatever. But it means the skill gap is small. Koreans need to take foreigners seriously to beat them in a tournament like this, and if they don't, players like Thorzain an Addelscott will beat them.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 15:36:13
March 27 2011 15:31 GMT
#8416
On March 28 2011 00:20 gostunv wrote:
quite unfortunate. i doubt any koreans are gonna participate in any online from across the world only tournament ever again.

You mean like the FXOpen tournament that was played this weekend and 1st and 2nd were Koreans
Hi
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
March 27 2011 15:32 GMT
#8417
Doubt the lag was the reason... Shouldve prepared better
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 27 2011 15:34 GMT
#8418
WOW, all the koreans lost.
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
March 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#8419
Wow, I've never seen a livereport thread go over 400 pages before.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
March 27 2011 15:47 GMT
#8420
are there any knetizen reactions posted somewhere?
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