EPT[TSL] Ro32 Day3 - Page 419
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
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BasilPesto
Australia624 Posts
On March 27 2011 20:32 mcmartini wrote: I know this is real stupid but where can I find the VOD's? Couldn't see a link on the front page? http://www.youtube.com/user/teamliquidnet Just caught QXC's games against Genius. Pretty epic games, but Genius did seem a bit rusty. | ||
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Kazzila
Finland6 Posts
Plus he loses units that he shouldnt lose due to lag. It's like Usain Bolt in 100m with cement blocks on his feet. | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On March 27 2011 20:10 Tef wrote: After watching Adelscott vs. IM.MVP vods I am convinced that Adelscott won because he was better and nothing else. MVP did not do any large blunders except that he went for unupgraded MM against upgraded gateway units and I don't think lag has anything to do with that. I forsee Terran using mech against P to negate this. I'm not sure if you've ever seen MVP play before but typically he can control his units at an above Bronze league level and things like losing units to probes and being completely unable to kite are not the norm. Considering MVP displayed zero unit control throughout any of the games Adel should have steamrolled him and the only reason the games were close is because MVP was constantly spending his money, whereas Adel would go into fights with 20-40 supply less than he'd have if he could macro well. | ||
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Roaches
Denmark152 Posts
On March 27 2011 18:09 7erojananda wrote: It seems to me that the only way to stop this kind of "blind discussion" is to make interviews with those Koreans who lost their games yesterday and ask them about their feelings and thoughts about all these lags - this will be the answer to all the questions. I don't think this is really an option. If the Koreans had won maybe, but they probably don't want to come out and look like whiners. The TL guys might want to ask them about it privately though, but they're also probably already aware of exactly how much the lag can affect play, given that they have guys in Korea already. As for the results, as Jinro explained sure the lag is an issue. Maybe slightly more for the Koreans than the Europeans when playing on NA server. But surely you can also practice for it and get used to it, so that it doesn't make you uncomfortable and affect the rest of your game - mechanics and decision making - so terribly much. If the Koreans didn't do that it's their own fault. Preparation is a very important part of the game as well. In the end especially Adel and QXC showed some amazing games. They made so so many good decisions under immense pressure in their respective 2nd games. We should give credit where it is due and just appreciate the spectacle that was last night. | ||
Poopi
France12761 Posts
On March 27 2011 20:44 cuppatea wrote: I'm not sure if you've ever seen MVP play before but typically he can control his units at an above Bronze league level and things like losing units to probes and being completely unable to kite are not the norm. Considering MVP displayed zero unit control throughout any of the games Adel should have steamrolled him and the only reason the games were close is because MVP was constantly spending his money, whereas Adel would go into fights with 20-40 supply less than he'd have if he could macro well. Finally someone who isn't blind. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
Remember back in iccup days when Kors would draw a sad face T_T and just leave 3 seconds into the game despite what was imo pretty damn good lag. On the opposite spectrum Chinese players strive in lag due to crappy net lol. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On March 27 2011 20:29 Naphal wrote: just watched the games... o.o xD i really do not think there will be a 100% correct bracket on liquipedia, the shirt will have to go to the one with the closest predictions xD There wasn't anyone with a correct bracket after the first weekend. (best one was 7 of 8) :p Now the leader has 10 of 12, I think, and 20 people with 9 correct predictions. There's a rankings page in the Bracket Contest thread. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Kazzila
Finland6 Posts
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
On March 27 2011 20:44 cuppatea wrote: I'm not sure if you've ever seen MVP play before but typically he can control his units at an above Bronze league level and things like losing units to probes and being completely unable to kite are not the norm. Considering MVP displayed zero unit control throughout any of the games Adel should have steamrolled him and the only reason the games were close is because MVP was constantly spending his money, whereas Adel would go into fights with 20-40 supply less than he'd have if he could macro well. I have watched every single GSL S/A game. So yes, I have watched MVP quite a lot. A few milliseconds delay doesn't explain why he donated his entire M&M army several times and made bad decisions about when and where to attack. Also, seeing MVP moving around his entire army between expansions and still not being able to negate Adels Zealot harass wasn't because of lag. Adelscott basically picked him apart. Now, MVP maybe went into this tourny casually and lost because he wasn't motivated and taking it seriously but thats his own fault. | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
What are some other recommended games? | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On March 27 2011 21:08 eloist wrote: Catching up on Vods... Nestea lost that third game because he forgot roach speed and only noticed when his roaches were too slow while closing in on tanks. And he lost the second game because he was greedy. 7 lings and 2 queens plus some drones vs 9 marines, 3 hellions and 4 scvs. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
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Herry
England681 Posts
and Nestea throwing away 20 borrowed roaches whilest being pumped by seiged up tanks. i mean seriously. are you telling me that is the best zerg in the world at work? | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
On March 27 2011 21:21 ZeraToss wrote: go watch game 2 qxc vs genius, its the best late game harass game I EVER SAW. Thanks | ||
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Crt
247 Posts
1. koreans lost because of latency/lags issues. 2 the reason the games were close was because the koreans were so good that they're still able to macro/micro with huge bricks on their feets 3. foreigners are huge biasers, when they won, they claimed it's skills, when they played on a server half a world away and lost, they claimed it's lag. they even moved to korea to play and practice to eliminate the lag issue, yet denied it totally when they won because of unfair advantage. 4. koreans don't whine. 5. foreigners, especially the bias blind fans.... are yikeee... sickening... | ||
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